4-Year-Old Boy Suspended From School for Months Because His Hair Is 'Too Long

monkeypants · 14-01-2010 10:28AM

Herb Powell wrote: »

no, you can tell who's rich anyway.

Absolutely.

who the fug · 14-01-2010 10:28AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

I was expelled in '88 for having long hair.

Was warned a hundred times and had to have it in a ponytail.

Walking down the corridor and was grabbed by the vice-principal saying "Jon Bon Jovi, come with me.." :mad:

:P

How did you live the Jon Bon Jovi reference down

Dont be at yourself · 14-01-2010 10:33AM

In my school, some teachers seemed more concerned about enforcing rules on shoes, socks, belts, ties, piercings, jewellery and hair than on educating.

Treat kids with a bit of respect. Wearing an ear-ring or having electric blue hair in no way hinders somebody from learning Pythagoras' Theorem.

homerjay2005 · 14-01-2010 10:35AM

damn right. and the parents should be jailed. forcing a 4 year old boy to have long hair cos hes you wanted a daughter instead, is not cool....

Sleepy · 14-01-2010 10:36AM

I just read this as 'idiot parents deny their son an education by refusing to bring him for a haircut'...

Herb Powell · 14-01-2010 10:37AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

I disagree.

School uniforms can be a great leveler.

If people can wear what they wish then the family with money will kids to school in designer gear.

It isn't fair to have that pressure on kids who's parents can't afford it.

they mean well. I suppose we don't know, because uniforms are normal here, but I don't think it would do much harm to be rid of them. One benefit I can definitely see is that on school trips, it's very easy for the teachers to keep track of the children.

OutlawPete · 14-01-2010 10:40AM

who the fug wrote: »

How did you live the Jon Bon Jovi reference down

Didn't .. to this day I get the ribbing jibes. Did you put on the hairspray blah blah blah.

Have a mate who got suspended for wearing brown suede winkle pickers, so all's good

14-01-2010 10:59AM

Sleepy wrote: »

I just read this as 'idiot parents deny their son an education by refusing to bring him for a haircut'...

you need reading lessons so

spudington16 · 14-01-2010 11:24AM

At 4 years old I doubt the kid is even giving that much attention to his appearance, so it really is the parents who are causing problems here. If they were more concerned with his education and less with maintaining a stance on this non-issue then they would have brought him to a barber long ago and brought the thing to an end.

stovelid · 14-01-2010 11:31AM

Are there christian brothers or priests in the school?

The mother was probably just trying to pass off the boy as a girl for his own safety.

ya-ba-da-ba-doo · 14-01-2010 11:41AM

Kids like that make me sick.

Ickle Magoo · 14-01-2010 11:54AM

Presumably the kindergarten didn't introduce the rule specifically so they could expel "tater tot" - his parents knew the rules and let his hair grow really long - duh. It looks awful anyway, what's the issue with getting it cut?!

14-01-2010 12:09PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

I disagree.

School uniforms can be a great leveler.

If people can wear what they wish then the family with money will kids to school in designer gear.

It isn't fair to have that pressure on kids who's parents can't afford it.

Kids still know who has the best phone, TV, car, gameboy, holidays, etc.

OutlawPete · 14-01-2010 12:11PM

994 wrote: »

Kids still know who has the best phone, TV, car, gameboy, holidays, etc.

Exactly, and so why throw clothes into that mix too?

Phones should be banned in all schools by the way.

I realize you mean after school etc but schools should do there best to make sure that once people come through the gates, everyone is as equal as possible.

pickarooney · 14-01-2010 12:14PM

Maybe he's not a good fit for that school and should go somewhere else with less draconian rules?

# Hair is to be clean and well groomed.
# Unusual coloring or excessive hairstyles that may include "tails", "designs", "puffs", etc. are prohibited.

First kid featured on their webpage has dreadlocks...

Pace2008 · 14-01-2010 02:43PM

monkeypants wrote: »

Don't see the problem here. It's in his own best interest because he looks like a damned girl. And Tater Tot is just another way

Agreed. Off-topic, I see a lot of young boys with long haircuts and if they have particularly light voices it's very difficult to determine their gender. It's embarrassing for the kid, and selfish and irresponsible on the parent's part since they're just using their child as a fashion accessory.

Once they're at the age where it's obvious they're male they can wear purple mullets for all I care.

Mrmoe · 14-01-2010 02:54PM

The damn hippie should've gotten his hair cut.

Star Lord · 14-01-2010 03:00PM

deman wrote: »

Sorry to go OT here but if your sister had a tattoo done below the age of eighteen and without parental consent, can't you take the tattoo artist to court?

Just had my attention drawn to this ^

We get LOADS of under 18 kids looking to know where will tattoo them in the Tattoos & Piercings forum.

In Ireland, it's an unregulated industry (it really REALLY should be regulated!!!) so there are actually no laws against it. However, there are no decent, respectable tattoo artists (read: those that are any good) that would tattoo someone that's under 18.

As there are no laws broken though, there is no possibility of taking the artist to court.

Kipperhell · 14-01-2010 04:47PM

I had long hair in secondary school and we weren't allowed put it into a pony tail. It was a really strange rule as generally people think a pony tail is tidier.
I was working on my engineering project in the metal work lab and as I was using the lade I tied my hair back. The principle happened to come in and started screaming at me. Considering I was using heavy machinery at the time and got startled and quite a shock thinking something lethal had just happened.

Anyway he was screaming about my ponytail and charged down towards me yelling the whole time. I stopped the machine and took of my goggles off and was mighty angry. As I got such a fright about actual danger I just started yelling about how he was an idiot for startling me. Yelling the whole time I explained it was tied back as not to get caught in the machine. If he wanted to suspend me expel me or what ever he could but I didn't think anybody would judge his actions favourably given his disregard for safety.

He went ape threatening to get a scissor to cut my hair because of safety. I I said I would do him for assault if he came near me with a scissors etc... The actual teacher came down and tried to calm the two of us down. I was of course told to go to the office which I said I would do but not to be dealth with by the man who just put my life in danger and threatened me.

I eventually went to the vice principle's office and spoke to him. He started out furious at my back chat to the principle but when I explained what he did and the shock I got he mellowed. He then was talking how he knew my mother and how she would back the school up and insist I should cut my hair. He was semi right as she wanted me to cut my hair but she actually backed me up when she heard what the principle did.

Eventually I was given detention in the metal work lab which amount to me being given extra time to work on my project that I wouldn't have ordinarily be allowed to have. It was the only amicable arrangement to allow the principle save face. They then made an exception on ponytails in the labs.

NothingMan · 14-01-2010 04:53PM

Kipperhell wrote: »

I had long hair in secondary school and we were allowed put it into a pony tail. It was a really strange rule as generally people think a pony tail is tidier.

I assume you mean "weren't" allowed pony tails. That is a mental rule. I would think that if a Principal/Teacher had an issue with long hair a pony tail would be the preferable option to long and loose. You should have put it in pig tails. It's not a pony tail.

Kipperhell · 14-01-2010 05:10PM

NothingMan wrote: »

I assume you mean "weren't" allowed pony tails. That is a mental rule. I would think that if a Principal/Teacher had an issue with long hair a pony tail would be the preferable option to long and loose. You should have put it in pig tails. It's not a pony tail.

Thanks missed the typo. It never made any sense and many people argued with him over it. I don't mean students either. I think the rule was actually not allowed to tie hair up.

He had a comb over himself which meant his hair was actually quite long ( about a foot). He wasn't actually a bad chap and didn't hold a grudge. He must have realised I wasn't a trouble maker and my grades weren't bad with my behaviour being reactionary rather than a behavioural problem.

OutlawPete · 14-01-2010 05:11PM

Kipperhell wrote: »

I had long hair in secondary school and we weren't allowed put it into a pony tail. It was a really strange rule as generally people think a pony tail is tidier.
I was working on my engineering project in the metal work lab and as I was using the lade I tied my hair back. The principle happened to come in and started screaming at me. Considering I was using heavy machinery at the time and got startled and quite a shock thinking something lethal had just happened.

Anyway he was screaming about my ponytail and charged down towards me yelling the whole time. I stopped the machine and took of my goggles off and was mighty angry. As I got such a fright about actual danger I just started yelling about how he was an idiot for startling me. Yelling the whole time I explained it was tied back as not to get caught in the machine. If he wanted to suspend me expel me or what ever he could but I didn't think anybody would judge his actions favourably given his disregard for safety.

He went ape threatening to get a scissor to cut my hair because of safety. I I said I would do him for assault if he came near me with a scissors etc... The actual teacher came down and tried to calm the two of us down. I was of course told to go to the office which I said I would do but not to be dealth with by the man who just put my life in danger and threatened me.

I eventually went to the vice principle's office and spoke to him. He started out furious at my back chat to the principle but when I explained what he did and the shock I got he mellowed. He then was talking how he knew my mother and how she would back the school up and insist I should cut my hair. He was semi right as she wanted me to cut my hair but she actually backed me up when she heard what the principle did.

Eventually I was given detention in the metal work lab which amount to me being given extra time to work on my project that I wouldn't have ordinarily be allowed to have. It was the only amicable arrangement to allow the principle save face. They then made an exception on ponytails in the labs.

Sounds exactly like my head. Your now from Swords by any chance are ya?

NothingMan · 14-01-2010 05:14PM

Kipperhell wrote: »

Thanks missed the typo. It never made any sense and many people argued with him over it. I don't mean students either. I think the rule was actually not allowed to tie hair up.

He had a comb over himself which meant his hair was actually quite long ( about a foot). He wasn't actually a bad chap and didn't hold a grudge. He must have realised I wasn't a trouble maker and my grades weren't bad with my behaviour being reactionary rather than a behavioural problem.

Still, when you're in a position of authority, especially over young people you really should be able to handle a situation more deftly than just running at someone screaming while they operate dangerous machinery.

Our principal was such a dick..tator that some of our teachers (when we were in 6th year) use to actually tell us his stories of how he was as much of an @sshole to the teachers.

phasers · 14-01-2010 05:16PM

That kid's hair is way too long tbh, he looks like one of those little brats that talks with a fake lisp to look "cute"

Kipperhell · 14-01-2010 05:28PM

NothingMan wrote: »

Still, when you're in a position of authority, especially over young people you really should be able to handle a situation more deftly than just running at someone screaming while they operate dangerous machinery.

Our principal was such a dick..tator that some of our teachers (when we were in 6th year) use to actually tell us his stories of how he was as much of an @sshole to the teachers.

Agreed he should have had more sense and I think he realised that and couldn't back down in a class of students. In order to keep people in line in the school he probably had to be like that. Considering some of the pupils and their back grounds there was no way he would have survived with out behaving like that. He was better than the previous principle who had a nervous break down and the one before that only lasted a year.

mink_man · 14-01-2010 05:41PM

i went to the same school as the fella who got suspended in leaving cert because he had long hair a few years back.....

people say that cant do that but you have to know about the situation....

Kipperhell · 14-01-2010 05:50PM

mink_man wrote: »

i went to the same school as the fella who got suspended in leaving cert because he had long hair a few years back.....

people say that cant do that but you have to know about the situation....

What was the situation so?

all the stars · 14-01-2010 05:52PM

like this shining example:

http://www.spunout.ie/archive/HEADmaster-bans-students-from-exams

seems ya cant win.

stovelid · 14-01-2010 06:22PM

The lad is never too young to realize that long hair is just wrong.

plein de force · 14-01-2010 06:31PM

if schools spent more time teaching then faffing around with immaterial matters such as the lenght of someone's hair then maybe education wouldn't be as bureaucratic as it has become

4-Year-Old Boy Suspended From School for Months Because His Hair Is 'Too Long

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