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Bono has put his foot in it again: Internet policing idea draws fire

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  • #92
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    alexlyons wrote: »
    Bono is actually 1/5 of U2, Paul McGuinness has on numerous occasions been referred to as the 5th member, and on the vertigo tour received the same $1m the other 4 did, every night. just thought id let ya know ;)



    +1 on that, the real hero of U2, along with the edge, see all the work he's done for new orleans? got just the right amount of publicity, if not a tiny bit to little. http://www.musicrising.org/

    U2 fan blushes at mistake.

    You are 100% correct.
    All of U2 is split 5 ways. Kudos for pointing out my mistake.


  • #93
    Fabo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Fabo


    bono uses africa for publicity, that is all. anyone who think he isnt a publicity whore obviously lives in a box during the new album (which will be the best ever) leak rumors. he has a simplified view of africa. the only people he helps are the corrupt leaders who run the countries there. they are the problem with africa...trillions of dollars have been pumped into africa...where has it all gone ? does anyone ask ? simple, the so called governments use it for themselves.

    its compete horses*** what the media fuel people about africa. the real problem is never addressed and certainly not by bono.
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Of course there is.

    Answer me truthfully, if you were given the chance tomorrow to pay less tax, would you take it?

    ask michael o leary. he quite happily pays his taxes here. no attempt at tax avoidance for any of his companies. if you were earning 5 million a year, would you not like to pay an extra couple of hundred thousand just to contribute to the country you live in ? thats an ethical question, and only people of real backbone would say yes. not all of us are capitalist money grubbers.


  • #94
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Fabo wrote: »
    bono uses africa for publicity, that is all.

    Bollox talk.

    Bono could work all year on work for Africa etc and maybe get on the news for a one minute report half a dozen times and maybe a few column inches each week.

    If he wanted publicity he could get it the Liam Gallagher way and just break a few cameras.
    Fabo wrote: »
    its compete horses*** what the media fuel people about africa. the real problem is never addressed and certainly not by bono.

    Which is?
    Fabo wrote: »
    ask michael o leary. he quite happily pays his taxes here.

    As does Bono.
    Fabo wrote: »
    no attempt at tax avoidance for any of his companies. if you were earning 5 million a year, would you not like to pay an extra couple of hundred thousand just to contribute to the country you live in ? thats an ethical question, and only people of real backbone would say yes. not all of us are capitalist money grubbers.

    You think if Michael O'Leary could find a way to help them pay less tax that he wouldn't take it??

    The same wanker that charges people €5 do use a Laser Card when they get to process them for free?


  • #95
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Fabo wrote: »
    bono uses africa for publicity, that is all. anyone who think he isnt a publicity whore obviously lives in a box during the new album (which will be the best ever) leak rumors. he has a simplified view of africa. the only people he helps are the corrupt leaders who run the countries there. they are the problem with africa...trillions of dollars have been pumped into africa...where has it all gone ? does anyone ask ? simple, the so called governments use it for themselves.

    its compete horses*** what the media fuel people about africa. the real problem is never addressed and certainly not by bono.



    ask michael o leary. he quite happily pays his taxes here. no attempt at tax avoidance for any of his companies. if you were earning 5 million a year, would you not like to pay an extra couple of hundred thousand just to contribute to the country you live in ? thats an ethical question, and only people of real backbone would say yes. not all of us are capitalist money grubbers.
    Got proof?

    Please show it to us.


  • #96
    dolliemix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Here are a few articles which might support the view that corruption needs to be addressed first. Abolishing Third World Debt is just feeding into the hands of corrupt Governments. It is not tackling poverty at the level Bono is aiming at. There are planty of articles like these all the internet.

    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=1955664&page=1

    http://www.tighana.org/newsletters/GII_ALERT_13.pdf

    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4138445.ece

    Granted his heart may be in the right place but personally I think he's either very naive or he just loves the sound of his own voice telling people what they should be doing. And I lean towards the latter.

    But just to be fair I've found an article arguing in Bono's favour so if you really want to read up on it :D there's plenty of information available! :)



    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/bono-king-of-the-world-1066392.html


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  • #97
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Here are a few articles which might support the view that corruption needs to be addressed first

    Irish (?) person lectures foreigners about government corruption is almost as good a headline as tax avoider dodger lectures governments about how they should spend their money


  • #98
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Irish (?) person lectures foreigners about government corruption is almost as good a headline as tax avoider dodger lectures governments about how they should spend their money
    Why a question mark after Bono's name?


  • #99
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    dolliemix wrote: »
    Here are a few articles which might support the view that corruption needs to be addressed first.l

    There was a guy from Dublin who sold his 'Daytrading Software' business for $750,000,000 just before the Doc Com bubble burst.

    At first he was giving money to African charites but when he went out to see their progress in Ethiopia they were collecting him in Range Rovers and putting him up in posh hotels and the like. Some parts of Ethiopia are stunning.

    So, eventually he pulled the plug on them and now runs his own Charity.

    I think he may have been on Oprah, sound bloke.


  • #100
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Terry wrote: »
    Why a question mark after Bono's name?

    I was referring to the previous poster.

    Just because Bono is the lead singer in a Dutch band doesnt mean he isint Irish.


  • #101
    Fabo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Fabo


    "Which is?"

    corruption. its in the african leaders interests to keep ordinary people down so as to keep aid money flooding into africa. trillions of dollars has being poured into africa in the last 50 years. has it helped the people who really need it at all ?? bono does not address the real issues...he like many others have a simplified view of the problems in the world. it works, it sells records. if he spoke about solving the corruption in africa he would get feck all publicity and most people would think he was a meanie. it takes someone with real balls to do that - bono doesnt have what it takes.

    michael o leary boasts regularily about paying his taxes in ireland. when have you heard a sniff out of bono saying he pays taxes here? why didnt he make that argument against the begrudgers. (he never did) the fact is the vast majority of U2 income is tied up in companies, thats where the tax breaks are. show me where he pays tax personally here ?


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  • #102
    4leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    I think the pratt has a point,
    The internet is a piracy band wagon

    But what is it about him I looked at the earlier debate and IMO he does not pay his fair share of tax in this country

    He does sterling work on human rights and he sites China as an example we should all aspire to idiot

    PS I am a huge fan nof his concerts and music, but I still think him a twat.


  • #103
    twanda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭twanda


    An ISP providers response to Bono's recent New York Times article

    http://opinion.enta.net/2010/01/05/bono-%E2%80%93-stick-to-singing/


  • #104
    Closed ac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭Closed ac


    Hmph, those ISP providers should stick to providing ISP's.


  • #105
    genericguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Bono is a cnut.


  • #106
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    since when can he sing?:confused:


  • #107
    poisonated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Bono can be as full of himself as he wants but as long as he is giving the same amount of help to the poor,he has my full respect.


  • #108
    Kevin Bacon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Kevin Bacon


    As soon as every government leader, the pope and the continent of Africa tell him that, then we'll be sorted.


  • #109
    consultech
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Shock horror. Another multi multi multi multi multi-millionaire musician is peeved by free music sharing.

    Ask Lily Allen if it's such a bad thing.


  • #110
    Jako8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Jako8


    I'd prefer if he stopped doing anything!

    He annoys me so much.


  • #111
    dolliemix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    New thread related to this topic

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055789835


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  • #112
    dolliemix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Interesting. I was waiting for somebody to react publicly.

    Related thread here


  • #113
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    There is more to this NYT article it seems.
    Graham Linehan (of Fr Ted fame) tweeted today:
    Things that make you go hmm. Part 1. http://tinyurl.com/964ud2 ...and part 2 http://tinyurl.com/cfqbec

    Basically a private equity firm that Bono is now a Managing Director and co founder of has taken a stake in EMI, Warner Music, Universal, Interscope and EA Games.

    Bono couldn't give 2 ****s about bands that have made their name from internet celebrity, he is just looking to line his own pockets, again. :mad:


  • #114
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I'm waiting for a string of world leaders to visit him and ask him to give money to the poor.


  • #115
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,114 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I'm waiting for a string of world leaders to visit him and ask him to give money to the poor.

    No no no. They will visit him and he will thell THEM to donate OUR money.
    That's the "genius" of the twat, he's great at lecturing folks on
    how to spend their money


  • #116
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    dolliemix wrote: »
    New thread related to this topic

    Whats wrong with this one ?


  • #117
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,114 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    They were never great anyway. The last decent hit they had was Achtung Baby back in 1991. But, like so many acts who establish themselves, they live off their past successes and reputation. Look at ****ing Paul McCartney:rolleyes:


  • #118
    dolliemix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭dolliemix


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Whats wrong with this one ?

    Nothing - just thought people might be interested. Also it backs up the point I was trying to make in this thread so I'm feeling smug :)


  • #119
    latenia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭latenia


    The real movement towards mass piracy came with the rise in popularity of the ipod and it's Apple (with whom U2 has a business partnership) who is the main beneficiary. A 160GB ipod can hold over 1,500 albums yet who has the money to buy them legitimately? Not many people out of the 10s of millions of ipod owners have €10k to spend on music. How many can even afford to fill up an 8GB Nano legally?
    A company bringing out a music player with that capacity must be aware that its greatest appeal is the availabilty of free content to fill it. If you think back to 10 years ago before the rise of MP3's most people would have owned maybe 30 or 40 Cds. A serious music fan might have had a couple of hundred and only the truly dedicated/obsessive would have owned anything like the amount of albums you can fit on an ipod.
    I'm actually in favour of a 'content tax' of say €100 a year to be levied by ISPs on all broadband subscribers and divided by the music and film industries as they see fit. For this net users can get everything they want quickly and in high quality.
    Pandora's Box has already been opened and it's impossible for comapnies to return to anything like their previous business models.


  • #120
    MackDeToaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭MackDeToaster


    From what I understand, we, or at least several other European countries, already pay a tax on blank cds to cover piracy. So if I buy a hundred stash of blank cds for whatever they are these days then I should be ok to download, er, about 6.5gig of mp3s :D;)


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  • #121
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    i do buy albums that are over 80% listenable meaning most are the songs are good and only very little fillers.in my opinion most modern albums have about 2 good songs with the rest being fillers.most of the albums i own are best of albums,with the exception of a fw of my favourite bands,the rest of my music collection i cherry pick off limewire. the last time i checked U2 we packing they're albums fulk of nothing but fillers so bono wont be getting any of my cash anytime soon


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