Why are there no real musicians on here? *MOD WARNING POST 1, 83 and 97*

I can appreciate your frustration at not being able to find suitable musicians, but lambasting others with a different interest in, and attitude to, music, does not help your plight. The "Bands and Musicians" forum is a lottery. Sometimes you get lucky, most times, probably not. All you can do is keep trying. Don't shoot the messenger.

Maybe you could try putting up a message in some of the music shops, or try www.gumtree.ie.

Either way, taking out your frustration on others is not the way to go.

lmahoney79 wrote: »

To be honest i dont know why you bothered to re-open this thread.........its quite obvious the route its going to take. I thought more of boards than to let someone post a thread which can have only one possible outcome of being yet another pointless thread for people to argue over something ridiculous..........

For the record, I requested it to be opened. To be honest I have often wondered myself, why it's so hard to get people together successfully to jam or join a band, though I would not take it out on others like the OP did. I think it is a subject that needs to be aired. Provided people don't get abusive, I cant see any harm in it.

PMI wrote: »

Hi I get some of the guys point but maybe it could of been put across a bit better.

There aren't many guys left who create / started to play music just for the love of it.

when I started out it was only about playing music because I loved it it was never about financial gain.

my music still is not about financial gain or a project here or there, BUT ALL of my income comes from music either tv / radio / cover / studio etc..etc..

but as I said "MY MUSIC" is not for financial gain, and when I record for myself I try to get as much of that early innocence I had back and never record listening to my bank balance.

I agree that a lot of the posts looking for band members, always seem to include "need to get gigging as soon as possible". I often wonder, what's the hurry? On the other hand, if gigging (and therefore possible reward) is high on the agenda, it is puzzeling that there are so many "no shows". I suppose it's a case that a lot of "bedroom wannabes" crumble when push comes to shove.

The Paulinator wrote: »

I would have thought that this was the perfect resource for meeting other musicians and getting some actual music happening, but it really doesn't seem to be.
Unfortunately, it seems to be riddled with kids trying to start 'projects' ("Project"? wtf?), mostly in the tiresome indie/metal pigeonholes. Either that or it's pub/corporate/wedding cover bands.
Where are all the people that actually love music?
Is there no one out there that learned to play an instrument purely through the basic love of creating music, straight from their heart and soul, rather than to earn a few quid or massage ther own peurile sense of self importance with their 'projects'? They must be out there somewhere... Please...?
I'm obviously in the wrong place...

playing pubs pays while you make your own stuff, also helps distribute so you can contrabute checks in large amounts to your banks accounts.


Strugglin, strivin but hell... we be survivin

this thread smells familiar, anyway,

I know alot of musicians and maybe 1 at a stretch is on here. Some musicians are into computers and some aren't. The ones who are into computers may or may not use this site. As you work your way through the "parametres" it becomes a smaller and smaller pool of people who are actually on here.

If you are looking for band mates you have to cast your net wide and boards.ie should be 1 of many places you look.

OP, another suggestion you might like to try, seeing as it's a blues band you are in, is JJ Smiths on Aungier St. http://www.jjsmyths.com/gigs.html

They have an open mic night on the (I think ! check it on the link) first Tuesday of every month. People bring along their instruments for an open jam. A good opportunity to find possible band members.

Rigsby wrote: »

I also, have wondered what the OP meant by this. My own idea FWIW, of a "real" musician is some one who..... can read music.....

I wonder will this be refuted by some? I would agree about reading music but I have many musician friends who are proud that they do not and would never want to read music. These are people who are gigging etc btw. I swear one of them thinks I'm not a real player because I read music, like I'm making it too easy for myself or something?


Edit: That looks weird, the word proud. I don't mean that not reading music is somehow "shameful" But I can't understand why a working musician would cut themselves off from some music by not learning a pretty simple skill

The Paulinator wrote:

I would have thought that this was the perfect resource for meeting other musicians and getting some actual music happening, but it really doesn't seem to be.

Nothing is perfect. This forum is one of many resources available to arrange meet-ups with other musicians.

The Paulinator wrote:

Unfortunately, it seems to be riddled with kids trying to start 'projects' ("Project"? wtf?), mostly in the tiresome indie/metal pigeonholes. Either that or it's pub/corporate/wedding cover bands.

Why do you feel the need to be so condescending towards indie and metal? Cover bands will always be a popular draw as they are more likely to result in money being made by the band .

The Paulinator wrote:

Where are all the people that actually love music?

Well, I like to think that I love music. God forbid it ever happens but given a Sophie's Choice of losing my sight or losing my hearing I would choose to be blind without hesitation. I spend most of my day either listening to or playing music and would most likely be quite lost without it.

The Paulinator wrote:

Is there no one out there that learned to play an instrument purely through the basic love of creating music, straight from their heart and soul, rather than to earn a few quid or massage ther own peurile sense of self importance with their 'projects'? They must be out there somewhere... Please...?
I'm obviously in the wrong place...

Again, I'd like to think that I'm one of those people. I've no interest in going down the cover/wedding band route and I've quit bands in the past when I've been outvoted over the musical direction a band was going in. If I'm going to go to the effort of getting it together to play on stage I want to be excited by the music I play and no cover song can ever compete with watching a room full of people appreciating an original song that you have put together.

As for being in the wrong place, I can't remember when I first discovered the Bands & Musicians forum but in the years since then I've jammed with some excellent musicians and made some great friends that I wouldn't otherwise have. Persevere as you never know who's going to read your ad.

thelastpartizan wrote: »

There is an underlying stigma with some musicians that if you can read music, then you're one of them posh, classical, nerdy, giant violin playing people.

... and what, I wonder, do they find so bad or off putting about these people I'm of the opinion that it's all just music. Reading enhances your ability to play and enjoy it, regardless of your social status. This is why I find it hard to understand this, and the "proud not to read" attitude.