Will you go to mass on Christmas Day?

Bajingo · 22-12-2009 01:13AM

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

like it or not, Christmas is a religious event. if you don't do Christmas, fair enough, if you do...presents, time off, blah blah blah and don't go, it's being a bit hypictitical

Its not really that hypocritical just because they don't go to mass at christmas. There's more to christmas then just the religious aspect of it. Santa and christmas tree's have nothing to do with jesus but if we did'nt follow these traditions it would'nt make us hypocrits either, in my opinion. I'll be going to mass on christmas eve anyway.

phlegms · 22-12-2009 01:15AM

electrogrimey wrote: »

So when you approach her menacingly the screams have depth?

"Depth" is one word for it I suppose..

Biggins · 22-12-2009 01:16AM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

There is no Biblical suggestion for remembrance of the day of Christ's birth as a day of special religious celebration which is why there is no Christ's day in September...

Agree with all you say for as far as I have learned too, your correct a great deal. Some learned people estimate that his real birthday was around March either.
Either way, December was never his original date of birth as a human.

hinault · 22-12-2009 01:18AM

electrogrimey wrote: »

Someone suggested a poll in another thread, thought I'd give it a shot. So, will you be going to mass? I imagine the usual mass-goers will be there, as will the ones who only go on Christmas and Easter, and as will those who will accompany their granny out of politeness. I'll be finishing my Christmas fry-up, how about you?

I will go to Mass.

As I do every Sunday too.

keefs08 · 22-12-2009 01:22AM

rizzee wrote: »

**** that.

I'll be working till late :rolleyes: & hahaha **** that is right!!

thomond2006 · 22-12-2009 01:22AM

I'll regret it if I go and I'll regret it if I don't go.

Does that make any sense?

Agricola · 22-12-2009 01:24AM

Nope. I dont intend to waste another second of me life in mass

Fratton Fred · 22-12-2009 01:26AM

electrogrimey wrote: »

It's open to everyone, do Protestants go to church on Christmas? I don't know really...Judging solely by the religious forums, it seems the large majority of people on here are either Christian, or atheist/agnostic.

are Protestants not Christians then?

where's the "I'm a Christian who likes to think for themselves so I will be going to a non Roman Catholic service" option?

that's protestantist....

Ickle Magoo · 22-12-2009 01:27AM

Biggins wrote: »

Agree with all you say for as far as I have learned too, your correct a great deal. Some learned people estimate that his real birthday was around March either.
Either way, December was never his original date of birth as a human.

It all depends which calender you are working with & which biblical reference. The only date that meets the majority of the criterion is autumn. Using information given in the story of John the Baptists mother, Elisabeth, would place Jesus birth at around the end of September.

Biggins · 22-12-2009 01:28AM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

It all depends which calender you are working with & which biblical reference. The only date that meets the majority of the criterion is autumn. Using information given in the story of John the Baptists mother, Elisabeth, would place Jesus birth at around the end of September.

True, good point about the calender systems.

RonMexico · 22-12-2009 01:32AM

I haven't gone since I was about 12. I don't ever intend on setting foot in a church again because there is no God IMO and I don't want to have anything to do with an institution that protects people who rape and beat children.

Joey the lips · 22-12-2009 01:32AM

Yes as a catholic christian and believer in god i will go to mass christmas day. I went to confession tonight.

May I now ask whats your problem.....Why do you care to see the need to ask.

Tell me in the usual after hours style will the turkey be the only thing you will be stuffing this christmas.

Who really gives a dam..... Do you know the one thing i notice there is no greater hater than an ex catholic.... Get over it. I doubt many care. Least of all me!!!!

electrogrimey · 22-12-2009 01:33AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

are Protestants not Christians then?

where's the "I'm a Christian who likes to think for themselves so I will be going to a non Roman Catholic service" option?

that's protestantist....

The protestant question was in response to someone talking about Roman Catholics, if you check the post. I never said anything about Protestants not being Christian.

phlegms · 22-12-2009 01:40AM

I'll be genuinely interested to see if mass numbers are down this year what with the Catholic church being embroiled in so much scandal in the news so close to Christmas.

artanevilla · 22-12-2009 01:51AM

phasers wrote: »

Well then you shouldn't have gotten snippy with the OP

I only don't care after I'm wrong. :pac:

On topic, I won't be going. I like to praise God by sleeping. It's a way of thanking him for a tiring day.

nitrogen · 22-12-2009 01:55AM

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

like it or not, Christmas is a religious event. if you don't do Christmas, fair enough, if you do...presents, time off, blah blah blah and don't go, it's being a bit hypictitical

Christmas today is as much about religion as the Christian celebration is historically arcuate to events two thousand years ago about a Jewish con-artist/magician being born on a supposed solstice date, which was only stolen from earlier pagan religions.

topper75 · 22-12-2009 01:58AM

nitrogen wrote: »

Christmas today is as much about religion as the Christian celebration is historically arcuate to events two thousand years ago about a Jewish con-artist/magician being born on a supposed solstice date, which was only stolen from earlier pagan religions.

...which would make Christmas a religious festival. Right?

You are really upset with this Jesus guy. Talk with him, not us.

tribulus · 22-12-2009 02:03AM

I have not gone for several years and I won't be going this year either.

Agent Smith · 22-12-2009 02:04AM

it wouldnt be christmas in my house if i wasnt in mass on Christmas Eve, in my good suit and smelling of drink.

topper75 · 22-12-2009 02:05AM

Bajingo wrote: »

Its not really that hypocritical just because they don't go to mass at christmas. There's more to christmas then just the religious aspect of it. Santa and christmas tree's have nothing to do with jesus but if we did'nt follow these traditions it would'nt make us hypocrits either, in my opinion. I'll be going to mass on christmas eve anyway.

Santa is Saint Nicholas, a Turkish bishop of the early Christian church. The tree in the home idea was proposed by Martin Luther, the founder of the protestant sect of Christianity. It IS a religious festival. Get over it. Pretending everything began yesterday and denying the Judeo-Christian heritage of western European history is real communist silly stuff.

electrogrimey · 22-12-2009 02:09AM

topper75 wrote: »

Santa is Saint Nicholas, a Turkish bishop of the early Christian church. The tree in the home idea was proposed by Martin Luther, the founder of the protestant sect of Christianity. It IS a religious festival. Get over it. Pretending everything began yesterday and denying the Judeo-Christian heritage of western European history is real communist silly stuff.

Santa and Saint Nicholas are completely different, despite vague origins, and that Martin Luther story inventing the Christmas tree is a complete myth. Pretending everything stems from Christianity and not paganism or pre-christian beliefs is also silly.

Bajingo · 22-12-2009 02:20AM

topper75 wrote: »

Santa is Saint Nicholas, a Turkish bishop of the early Christian church. The tree in the home idea was proposed by Martin Luther, the founder of the protestant sect of Christianity. It IS a religious festival. Get over it. Pretending everything began yesterday and denying the Judeo-Christian heritage of western European history is real communist silly stuff.

Well as long as we're having a history lesson christmas was a way swinging some of the pagans around to there idea..they based it around the time of saturnalia..in fact early christians didnt believe in celebrating peoples birthdays.. My point is that presents were not always exchanged and trees were not always put up. Traditions come and go..Get over it.

we'llallhavetea_old · 22-12-2009 02:28AM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

There is no Biblical suggestion for remembrance of the day of Christ's birth as a day of special religious celebration which is why there is no Christ's day in September - which is widely accepted as the most likely date for his actual birth. Early Christian's didn't celebrate the birth of Jesus, in fact it wasn't a Christian holiday until the 4th century when Pope Julius I declared it so.

The 25th of December was celebrated by the pagan's with eating and present giving for the feast of the Son of Isis. We get carol singing from the Roman Mummers, decorated evergreen trees from the druids, the date, present giving and feasting - along with Yule logs, holly and mistletoe from the pagans. Most of the traditions you consider Christian and Christmassy were practised long before Christianity was ever heard of. :cool:

thanks for this!

phlegms · 22-12-2009 02:43AM

electrogrimey wrote: »

Santa and Saint Nicholas are completely different, despite vague origins, and that Martin Luther story inventing the Christmas tree is a complete myth. Pretending everything stems from Christianity and not paganism or pre-christian beliefs is also silly.

Spot the history student tbh :pac:

rainbow kirby · 22-12-2009 02:52AM

Won't be going, haven't gone to mass in years.

Holsten · 22-12-2009 03:09AM

Nope.

starbelgrade · 22-12-2009 03:15AM

I haven't been since I was 13 & the priest stopped returning my calls.

walshb · 22-12-2009 08:31AM

I actually find it a little hypocritical; the fact that I don't go the other 364 days, why on Christmas? I do not need to go to lead a good life and I don't think I am missing a whole lot by not going

DazMarz · 22-12-2009 09:23AM

Not a hope in hell. I have valuable drinking time to be thinking about.

AskMyChocolate · 22-12-2009 09:34AM

I won't be going this year because I don't want to lend support to an establishment I don't believe in. But I will probably sneak into a Church of Ireland church for a quick pray and to honour a rebel and carer.

Even when I was a Catholic I always preferred churches when they were empty, so mass wasn't my thing.

Will you go to mass on Christmas Day?

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