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is "I was drunk" a reasonable excuse for bad behavior

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    It's an explanation, not an excuse - it's not an excuse because if you find a certain amount of alcohol always causes you to act the muppet, then you are capable of reducing the amount you consume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭WeeBushy


    I'd accept it for an embarrassing faux pas like calling your girlfriend's best friend who you've met millions of time the wrong name.

    I wouldn't accept it as an excuse for running down harcourt street waving you willy at unsuspecting people in taxis, however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 MedlyObsidian


    dilligaf73 wrote: »
    Very true. No excuse, but sometimes it needs to be used for minor embarrassing moments.


    Haha. It can make for some awesome stories if you're willing to laugh at yourself, which I certainly am! But if you end up doing something not so savory it's not cool no matter how you spin it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    The last refuge of a scoundrel, that and prayer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Personally I think it adds insult to injury that someone would use it as an excuse. It's an immature way to try get out of trouble.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Its not really an excuse, but for stupid little thing like sending texts or making phone calls its pretty okay. Anything worse than that and your just a tool :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,626 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    The most common excuse when you've been caught with your pants down, followed by 'you know what I'm like when I drink spirits'..... blah, blah

    (Not from experience of course, I'd be guilty of stone cold sober murder if I found myself on the other end of that excuse)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Its not really an excuse, but for stupid little thing like sending texts or making phone calls its pretty okay. Anything worse than that and your just a tool :pac:


    did i ever tells you, you haves pretty eyes...

    *hic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭adamshred


    It really depends. If its something completely discretionary and a totally stupid thing to do like breaking a window under the influence, then it is completely inexcusable. However I believe that if it is something like a person having a smoke when they promised themselves they wouldn't or saying something to someone which they would not normally say, even though they would normally say it under their breath, then I think it is ok if the drink aspect can be named as having some responsibility for that. We are only human after all. Alcohol DOES alter brain activity which everyone is aware of so obviously some leway must given for those who have consumed excessive amounts of alcohol in REAL terms. I know it is the person's personal decision if they wish to consume alcohol but things do happen under the influence.

    With that said, I don't BELIEVE people when they say "oh I was so drunk that I done this that and the other" etc because there is always a deep set initiative/instinctive morality no matter how drunk you are. Or maybe thats just me.

    I've done things when I've been drunk but nothing like breaking a window or anything. I knew what I was doing and I agree that it was alcohol that propelled me beyond the point where I would normally have stopped and I was aware of my actions but it was nothing so severe that I would have had to do any real thinking or questioning about it. ( and no this has nothing to do with drugs or anything of that nature.)

    I wish I could have said this in fewer words and in a way that is more legible or comprehensible to everyone but I done my best!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    kevogy wrote: »
    Do you think being drunk is an ok excuse for the trouble ya get into on a night out?
    no excuse its time to give it up if it gets you in trouble.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    patwicklow wrote: »
    no excuse its time to give it up if it gets you in trouble.


    I get in trouble quite a bit when sober...

    by your logic i should **** myself off a bridge!!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Any key?


    Ah yeah you have to pay attention when your drinking



    Could you imagine doing something embarressing when your drunk.......apprently its so socially unacceptable.... NEVER GOIN ON A BOARDS NIGHT OUT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    No way is it! A friend of mine is a demon once booze enters his system, I mean deranged behaviour. No therapist in the universe could figure out the thoughts that go through this guy's head, they'd need a therapist afterwards! :pac:

    I think at one point or another he's done something to rock the friendship with each and every one of us lads. He really does turn into a pyschopath of sorts.

    Try stealing clocks from random house parties for no good reason, telling your siblings you're going away for a while cuz you have to kill someone, knocking a friend out and beating him while he's unconcious, stealing a hammer so you can beat someone with it and hitting a friend with it trying to stop you............hell, that's just recently.

    Everytime he does this bullshìt he puts it in his mind that "If I don't remember it happening, it didn't happen so shut up!" Even though we know he clearly remembers.

    Anyone else would tell him to fùck off but we've grown up with the guy, he is a very good friend to us and he hasn't had a great life (It's abig thing to do with his parents who got divorced, various evil stories they told him that drove him mad)

    But, in short, being drunk and an asshole is no excuse for your behaviour.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,769 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    kevogy wrote: »
    Do you think being drunk is an ok excuse for the trouble ya get into on a night out?
    Probably as good as an excuse as finding out, dumping you, then getting drunk after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    I get in trouble quite a bit when sober...

    by your logic i should **** myself off a bridge!!:pac:
    well when i was 18 to about 25ish i was living in london and i gotten into more trouble fighting all that carry on and it was all through drink when i drank sorts i went off the head.im nearly 40 now and have like a few pints but never touch a sort so its all about control like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭VinnyTGM


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Lana80


    It depends on what was done/said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 TamNaz


    It may not be reasonable, but it often works in a pinch.

    People certainly have lamer excuses for bad behavior, i.e. "I was tired", "on the rag", "I thought you were my dead uncle", "if I knew that was your hand I never would have put it there", etc. etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    It's a legitimate excuse for dying of alcohol poisoning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    I got a little bitchy the other night after having a bit too much...nothing too bad,just saying that I hate always being the one having people over and it was better when that used not be the case,ha thats not too bad is it?...anyway I think that when drunk you have to make an extra effort not to be a prick but some things are forgivable depending how drunk you are...For example,you wouldn't piss on the street when sober but after a few pints it's not too bad.(I don't do that btw)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    I HATE that excuse. Being drunk reduces inhibitions, meaning chances are it's something you wanted to do when you were sober but fear of retribution stopped you.
    Yes, but you would most likely never do it whilst sober because you are in a clear state of mind, something you aren't after a dangerous amount of drink.

    To answer the Op's question: No, it's not an excuse. Even though alcohol may be the sole reason for the bad behaviour, it was your decision to drink it and therefore you must live with the consequences. It's a truly deadly drug and should be taken in moderation. For those of us who can't take it in moderation, life is not as good a thing as it is for the rest of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    No way is it! A friend of mine is a demon once booze enters his system, I mean deranged behaviour. No therapist in the universe could figure out the thoughts that go through this guy's head, they'd need a therapist afterwards! :pac:

    I think at one point or another he's done something to rock the friendship with each and every one of us lads. He really does turn into a pyschopath of sorts.

    Try stealing clocks from random house parties for no good reason, telling your siblings you're going away for a while cuz you have to kill someone, knocking a friend out and beating him while he's unconcious, stealing a hammer so you can beat someone with it and hitting a friend with it trying to stop you............hell, that's just recently.

    Everytime he does this bullshìt he puts it in his mind that "If I don't remember it happening, it didn't happen so shut up!" Even though we know he clearly remembers.

    Anyone else would tell him to fùck off but we've grown up with the guy, he is a very good friend to us and he hasn't had a great life (It's abig thing to do with his parents who got divorced, various evil stories they told him that drove him mad)

    But, in short, being drunk and an asshole is no excuse for your behaviour.

    So some excuses are acceptable and some are not?

    Your mate sounds like a tool, sorry.

    Basically you won't let him blame booze but you will let him blame his parents?

    Fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭KarmaGarda


    Dragan wrote: »
    So some excuses are acceptable and some are not?

    Your mate sounds like a tool, sorry.

    Basically you won't let him blame booze but you will let him blame his parents?

    Fair enough.

    Using Booze as an excuse is a tad different than your Parents for something they did. You chose to drink, I'm sure he didn't choose for his parents to do that.

    On saying that, the afore mentioned "friend" still sounds like a tool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    its an excuse for silly behaviour i.e. my terrible dancing, but when it comes to more serious things i dont think so, if drink brings out a bad side in you, time to stop 2/3 pints earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    No it's not, it never ever is.
    "Oh sorry for saying that, I was really drunk at the time."
    Fcuk off. If you didn't mean it, you wouldn't have thought it in the first place, It never would have entered your drunken brain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭DamoDLK


    It shouldn't be an excuse, but it seems that it is for some things like crimes it can be factored in...

    For silly things like dancing and talking mild shyte to random strangers - i reckon its alright!

    so it really depends on the circumstances!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Soby


    Nope never
    /thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    yea it is im using it for last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I voted 'No' because I feel drink lowers your inhibitions and can make you say / do what you may feel like doing / saying but under normal circumstances would have enough sense to know that it's not a good idea. In other words it can bring out 'the real you'.

    For example, you would really love to do your work colleague coz they're so damn hot but have more sense than to approach them because you're happily married. You're out on a work 'do' and mashed drunk like everyone else and she comes on to you - it's gonna be VERY hard to say 'No!'

    You know it's wrong, you know you shouldn't even contemplate it but because your inhibitions have been smashed you go for it anyway. I.e: you wouldn't normally do it but because you were locked you did what you would really like to do!

    See what I'm getting at?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    I don't think it's a good excuse. I reckon it's false if people claim they only said something because they were drunk. Like, if you say something nasty it's because that's how you think of such a person. The alcohol just makes you have less self control. And then you blurt out stupid stuff.

    Or if you're like me you text people you really shouldn't.


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