Government

I do it its awesome loads of politics bitta law and a bitta commerce. there's a good balance! the class is small enough so you'd know everyone pretty well.

-Intro to Pol Sci-Semesters 1&2
-Eu Politics-Semester 1
-Gov&Pol of Ireland-Semesters 1&2
-Citizenship & Human Rights-Semester 2
-Public Law-Semesters 1&2
-Public and Private Management-Semester 1&2
-Intro to Management and Organisation-Semester 1
-Social P olicy Analysis-Semester 2

Then you pick a 10 credit optional module which has a choice of like Economics, Languages, Writing and Communication, Public Health etc.

Seloth wrote: »

Ah cool,cause I'm really interested in getting into politics when I've finished school and stuff.

If that's not already the case, maybe you should get in touch with one of the societies like Labour Youth, FF, and the such in UCC ?

The good thing about this course is primarily the fact that they hand out a 2.1 to any old Johnny or Mary that shows up on more than one occasion, and many's a first has been given too, statistically higher than most other courses. It's because they need people to apply, you see.

ALincoln wrote: »

The good thing about this course is primarily the fact that they hand out a 2.1 to any old Johnny or Mary that shows up on more than one occasion, and many's a first has been given too, statistically higher than most other courses. It's because they need people to apply, you see.

OP just be wary that comments like above are of course bull****, in UCC you get a lot of people talking crap like above.

You like the course content then you'll do well, don't and you won't.

invincibleirish wrote: »

OP just be wary that comments like above are of course bull****, in UCC you get a lot of people talking crap like above.

You like the course content then you'll do well, don't and you won't.

There's nothing crap about it. Government does give out a disproportionately high quota of firsts.

Why are you seemingly representing this as a bad thing?

ALincoln wrote: »

There's nothing crap about it. Government does give out a disproportionately high quota of firsts.

Why are you seemingly representing this as a bad thing?

Show us simpletons your evidence, what courses are you comparing with?

I'm in first year government now. I'd recommend it if you're into politics in any way. Core modules (compulsory) are Management and Organisation, Government and politics of Ireland, Politics of the EU, Introduction to political science and Public Law. There's options to the value of ten credits (One language is ten credits most non-language subjects are 5 credits). There's Spanish, French, Chinese, German etc. and Business Economics, Writing and Communication and Public Health. Think there's a few more so look it up on the website if I didn't help.

Seloth wrote: »

Sorry too double post but I just wanted to bump this up for a question

What classes are there actually in the modules,Is it all the art classes you have a choice of or what

Some of the modules like Political Corruption & Economics are in with Arts & Commerce folk but the good stuff is Gov class only.

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Breeding ground for future politicians getting easy ride and unearned marks, surely not.

Did a module through them myself, easiest 1H I ever got. Found the whole department a shambles. It's basically a course to give a qualification to people who are going to get positions that aren't based on academic accredation similar to Sports Science for sporto's.

With pig headed ignorant opinions like that surely you're in the wrong field old chum? i think you'd make an excellent politician.

i imagine that the exams office keep on eye on the amount of 1hs being awarded

i also imagine that UCC value their credibility

ALincoln wrote: »

Well clearly govt isn't so valued that it is preserved and maintained consistently - the title and content of the course is altered every few years if anybody has noticed!

Hmm interesting viewpoint, because this young course (10 years old this year) has had one title change and introduced new modules then it isn't 'valued'?. Perhaps you shoud consider the alternative pov that as the Gov department has expanded, it is inevitable that feedback will be considered and with new lecturers coming on board new modules are going to be created and the course's content is going to be finetuned?

ALincoln wrote: »

In terms of 1Hs distributed, well, it's difficult to pin down - the amount awarded varies from dept to dept - for example in law, 3 people typically achieve a 1H. In civ eng on the other hand, up to a 1/3 of students may get a 1. So, it's not uniform, and govt is known for its high quantity of high marks.

Yes you have pushed this hobby horse idea of yours already in this thread. Unlike the examples mentioned, Gov has traditionally had a small number of students completing the degree, less then 25 this year afaik, the course and its subject matter isn't for everyone and half on average dropout over the 4 years. If you've slogged it out for 3.5 years plus went on work placement i would imagine you would have a certain gra for the course work which surely would naturally lead to good results?.

I believe your inference that Gov hand out 1Hs willy nilly to be a sleight on the department and the college itself, as asked several months ago, can you provide any proof?.

Look lad you're dragging this thread downhill with your aggressive tone and throw away comments, have a little bit of cop on with respect to the OPs intentions. Why not share what you know with the rest of the class?... why is it a mickey mouse course? what shambles are you referring to specifically? Whats your experience of the department again?

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Because my experience of it and speaking to four friends doing it is that its basically a four year arts course, with a prestigious six month placement of photocpying and making coffee in third year

Gov specializes in several particular areas - Irish politics, political science, public administration and offers modules in specialist areas to supplement this. Yes there is an overlap with several courses but what course doesn't in the social sciences?.

As for the work placement, you downplay the role of placements but this is what employers want after you leave college - work experience - you're not going to solve world hunger on your placement but you will learn and hopefully earn.

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Should the OP only hear the sugar coated version, or is he/she better of getting a range off opinions.

Who's sugar coating anything? if you have a specific interest in the areas mentioned above then Gov is an attractive course to do. Anecdotes about easy H1s and weasel words about the course being mickey mouse and the like will be treated with the contempt they deserve.