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Hospital sees increase in eye condition after Knock 'visions'

  • 02-12-2009 04:30AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭


    The Irish Times - Wednesday, December 2, 2009

    Hospital sees increase in eye condition after Knock 'visions'


    PAMELA DUNCAN

    A GALWAY eye surgeon has described as “unprecedented” the rise in the number of cases of an eye condition which he says can be directly attributed to people staring at the sun during recent events at the Knock shrine.

    Dr Eamonn O’Donoghue, a consultant ophthalmologist surgeon in University Hospital Galway, says the hospital would usually see one case of solar retinopathy “at most” per year.

    However, this year there have been five such cases, all of which have been linked to events at Knock.

    Dr O’Donoghue said people needed to be warned of the condition as it was “potentially very, very dangerous” and could cause long-term damage to the most vulnerable part of the eye.

    “These people came in because they have had a significant reduction in their vision and they could very well be a smaller representative sample,” Dr O’Donoghue said, adding that two of those who had presented to the hospital had also reported that other members of their families had suffered visual damage.

    “It can potentially lead to blindness with prolonged exposure,” Dr O’Donoghue said. While he was unaware how the events were organised, he said, it would be “profoundly irresponsible” for anyone to encourage people to stare at the sun.

    About 10,000 people attended a supposed apparition of the Virgin Mary at the Knock shrine in Co Mayo on October 31st. At this, and at a similar event on October 11th, people claimed to see the sun shimmering, changing colour and “dancing in the sky”.

    Another apparition has been forecast by visionary Joe Coleman for this Saturday at 3pm. Attempts to contact Mr Coleman last night were unsuccessful.

    Solar retinopathy, or eclipse retinopathy as it is also known, affects the macula and can cause a significant reduction in vision.

    It can also lead to altered images, altered colour perception and blind spots.

    While most people will recover their vision within six months, solar retinopathy has the potential to have a long-term degenerative effect on the retina.

    He said that reports of people seeing colours dancing in front of the sun could also be explained by the condition, describing it as “sort of a cheap trick”.

    “If you stare at the sun for long enough you’re going to get some visual disturbances. Not only will you get reduced vision but also a condition called metamorphopsia,” he said, adding that this could explain such visual alterations.

    “Since the time of Galileo people have known that looking directly at the sun can do damage to your eyes,” Dr O’Donoghue added.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭okioffice84


    FFS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    They probably were staring at the fúcking sun, looking for the ''Virgin Mary''. Load of bollockology is all that is. Get a grip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    This is hardly news; Blind faith is nothing new to the jesus freaks in this country...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 606 ✭✭✭baaaa


    I've been waiting for this article.This is serious.Fools deserve to be seperated from their money but not their sight.
    This man is going to cost the state thousands in medical bills and disability and ruin peoples lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Feck medical help, they should get down to Knock and get those eyes healed pronto.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    i have some magic beans thatll fix them right up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Brilliant. Darwinism at it's best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Must resist urge to post facepalm picture.

    I dont know whats worse, looking directly at the sun or believing all this apperance shite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Bunch of bleedin' idiots. Shame he didn't tell them to put their hand in a fire for some magic beans.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    5 people as opposed to 1 person is hardly much to write about in fairness. Especially given 10,000 people were looking at the sun.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Kipperhell


    I wonder if he can be held liable? If he can be proved to known it could cause damage prior to the event surely he can be. It is hard to believe people didn't know this but I am sure some would have believed him over what a doctor would say.

    If he has no eye damage then he didn't look himself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    faceman wrote: »
    5 people as opposed to 1 person is hardly much to write about in fairness. Especially given 10,000 people were looking at the sun.


    1 person in 365 days.

    5 people in 50 days. That's a very considerable increase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭irish1967


    Hmmm.. so you can go blind looking at something unbelievable, stupid, far fetched, which is supposed to increase your faith and perform miracles... would I go deaf listening to Brian Cowen then? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭BennyLava


    Jebus made them do it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,678 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Someone should sue Joe for inciting delusional hysteria resulting in sight damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,815 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    just thinking that... because they were worshipping the sun... wouldnt they be practicing paganism instead? :pac:

    Stupid idiots! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭argonaut


    More evidence that venturing into most of Ireland is like crossing the damn Mississippi.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Why didn't they wear shades? This news won't stop all the day-tripping "believers"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭schween


    It's on BBC too.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8390184.stm

    It's so ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Faith truly is blind. Lets see if Jesus will come down now to make them all better! :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Brilliant. Darwinism at it's best.
    This doesn't make sense as it's not a life-threatening condition, nor does it affect one's ability to reproduce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭irish1967


    Isn't page three of the sun supposed to cause blindness too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Hey you guys need to stop, religion is great and god will always be there for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    ah theres nothing like staring at the sun to burn out ur retinas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    It doesn't matter in regards to religion or eclipses or whatever, it was just stupid fullstop.

    The only proper way to look or stare at the sun is through a solar filter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Whadthefuckdya mean, you won't restore my sight Jesus!?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    1 person in 365 days.

    5 people in 50 days. That's a very considerable increase.

    Given it was a claimed solar event that 10,000 people attended i still wouldnt consider it a news story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    faceman wrote: »
    Given it was a claimed solar event that 10,000 people attended i still wouldnt consider it a news story

    now, I doubt that

    a) 10,000 people attended

    and
    b) all of them stared at the sun long enough to damage their retinas.

    5 people in the last 50 days with the same condition caused by the same event.

    Why can't God and Mary make their presence known through the good works of others rather than appearing in tree stumps and causing people to stare at the sun.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    now, I doubt that

    a) 10,000 people attended

    and
    b) all of them stared at the sun long enough to damage their retinas.

    5 people in the last 50 days with the same condition caused by the same event.

    Why can't God and Mary make their presence known through the good works of others rather than appearing in tree stumps and causing people to stare at the sun.

    There was a few trips to Knock for apparitions around the same time over a couple of week and the combined footfall was estimated at 10k.

    but i agree, tree stumps and toast is a far safer way to pass the Good Word on. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Brilliant. Darwinism at it's best.

    How is this Darwinism?
    It's amazing it's the 150th anniversary of his theory and we're accrediting it to sun worship retinal damage.


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