Joseph Moshe - Arrested in LA by FBI for Going Public about Vaccine

macshadow · 01-12-2009 02:52AM

King Mob wrote: »

So then you are taking her word for it.

How do you know that she isn't running a scam of some kind?

Why trust her at all?

What the hell kind of scam could she be running?
Why should i trust that you're not some kind of disinfo agent?

squod · 01-12-2009 02:54AM

King Mob wrote: »

But now you're discussing something completely different.

That's not what the lawsuit is about.

It also bares pointing out that the vaccine in this incident wasn't the same as the current vaccine.

Now before you chance the subject and move the goalposts again, are you going to address any of the points I've raised about Joseph Moshe?
Particularly the point about where he never actually predicted anything?

Febuary. The story broke in Febuary. He didn't have to ''predict'' anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq7VTqZBLnI

macshadow · 01-12-2009 02:59AM

King Mob wrote: »

So then you are taking her word for it.

How do you know that she isn't running a scam of some kind?

Why trust her at all?

I have to ask myself why you spend so much time here.
You are the first to go on my ignore list where you will stay.
Bye;)

01-12-2009 03:05AM

squod wrote: »

Febuary. The story broke in Febuary. He didn't have to ''predict'' anything.

And the incident in February was in Austria.
The "prediction" was about a bioweapon being developed in the Ukraine.

And Joseph Moshe (the guy who this thread is about) never said anything about vaccines.

Hellm0 · 01-12-2009 05:52PM

Not that this has much to do with Moshe, but I figured this article might be of interest to those who want to know about Baxter Pharmaceuticals. It's a long article, but here is a quote;

"Baxter Pharmaceuticals has admitted that it 'accidently' contaminated various vaccine batches with Avian Flu viruses and on June 10, Austrian journalist Jane Burgermeister filed sweeping criminal charges with the FBI in addition to earlier ones on April 8 with the Vienna State Prosecutor's Office against Baxter AG, Baxter International and Avir Green Hill Biotechnology AG, "for manufacturing, disseminating, and releasing a biological weapon of mass destruction on Austrian soil between December 2008 and February 2009 with the intention of causing a global bird flu pandemic virus and of intending to profit from that same pandemic in an act that violates laws on international organised crime and genocide."

http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2009/07/baxter-pharmaceuticals-avian-flu.html

Diogenes · 01-12-2009 05:58PM

Hellm0 wrote: »

Not that this has much to do with Moshe, but I figured this article might be of interest to those who want to know about Baxter Pharmaceuticals. It's a long article, but here is a quote;

"Baxter Pharmaceuticals has admitted that it 'accidently' contaminated various vaccine batches with Avian Flu viruses and on June 10, Austrian journalist Jane Burgermeister filed sweeping criminal charges with the FBI in addition to earlier ones on April 8 with the Vienna State Prosecutor's Office against Baxter AG, Baxter International and Avir Green Hill Biotechnology AG, "for manufacturing, disseminating, and releasing a biological weapon of mass destruction on Austrian soil between December 2008 and February 2009 with the intention of causing a global bird flu pandemic virus and of intending to profit from that same pandemic in an act that violates laws on international organised crime and genocide."

http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2009/07/baxter-pharmaceuticals-avian-flu.html

Sorry Hell0 that isn't exactly new information here it's worth pointing out that there hasn't been a global bird or swine flu pandemic since 2009, that caused a genocide.

Hellm0 · 01-12-2009 06:00PM

Diogenes wrote: »

Sorry Hell0 that isn't exactly new information here it's worth pointing out that there hasn't been a global bird or swine flu pandemic since 2009, that caused a genocide.

Thanks dogenes

Undergod · 01-12-2009 06:01PM

Why would they admit to contaminating the vaccine if it was to be used in a plot to kill everyone?

squod · 01-12-2009 07:00PM

They didn't have to admit anything, they were simply caught out by a quick witted and heroic scientist working in BioTest.

01-12-2009 07:03PM

squod wrote: »

They didn't have to admit anything, they were simply caught out by a quick witted and heroic scientist working in BioTest.

They did admit it afterwards.
And the media reported it.

And what has it to do with Joseph Moshe?

Diogenes · 01-12-2009 07:14PM

squod wrote: »

They didn't have to admit anything, they were simply caught out by a quick witted and heroic scientist working in BioTest.

And this scientist name is?

Hellm0 · 01-12-2009 07:19PM

Diogenes wrote: »

And this scientist name is?

If you had read my article, as opposed to quickly penning a reply (and tellingly mis spelling my online name in the process).

QUOTE
The contaminated product, "a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 (Avian Flu) viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company....Avir Green Hills Biotechnology." It then "sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany."

The problem was discovered when The Czech Republic company discovered that ferrets innoculated with the product died. "Ferrets shouldn't die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses." Public health authorities called it a "serious error" that showed "the H5N1 virus in the product was live." But Baxter "has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event." Christopher Bona, the company's global bioscience communications director, did confirm that the material was a "live....experimental virus" made at the Orth-Donau research laboratory.
END QUOTE

Diogenes · 01-12-2009 07:32PM

Hellm0 wrote: »

If you had read my article, as opposed to quickly penning a reply (and tellingly mis spelling my online name in the process).

QUOTE
The contaminated product, "a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 (Avian Flu) viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company....Avir Green Hills Biotechnology." It then "sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany."

The problem was discovered when The Czech Republic company discovered that ferrets innoculated with the product died. "Ferrets shouldn't die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses." Public health authorities called it a "serious error" that showed "the H5N1 virus in the product was live." But Baxter "has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event." Christopher Bona, the company's global bioscience communications director, did confirm that the material was a "live....experimental virus" made at the Orth-Donau research laboratory.
END QUOTE

No I know this, I'm just wondered why he gets the adjectives "quick witted" or "heroic"? He was incredibly professional and efficient.

It's not like he was fired or lost his job doing this. He was doing exactly what Baxter pay him to do, check when an issue arises.

If anything this incident shows that well placed procedures are in place to stop the public being exposed to viruses.

squod · 01-12-2009 07:40PM

Diogenes wrote: »

........what Baxter pay him to do.............
.

Baxter pay him? Any proof?

Diogenes · 01-12-2009 07:46PM

squod wrote: »

Baxter pay him? Any proof?

From the link

Christopher Bona, the company's(Baxter) global bioscience communications director

squod · 01-12-2009 07:57PM

Diogenes wrote: »

From the link

The viruses were discovered by BioTest.

Diogenes · 01-12-2009 08:23PM

squod wrote: »

The viruses were discovered by BioTest.

A subsidiary of Baxter....

squod · 01-12-2009 08:25PM

Diogenes wrote: »

A subsidiary of Baxter....

Proof?

Undergod · 02-12-2009 02:27PM

I google 'BioTest subsidiary of Baxter' and this thread was the second result. Weird.

Joseph Moshe - Arrested in LA by FBI for Going Public about Vaccine

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