Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

POINTBREAK · 29-11-2009 08:21PM

Sun November 29th
Pricewise Extra
Saturday and Sunday ONLY
9 losers (TS)
2 winners (9/1-6/1)(6/1-7/2)
Present Sequence 1 Win

Profit/Loss@SP.............. -0.5
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice +5
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The overall picture this month
PWE Mon/Fri -12 at SP
PWE Tom Sega - 0.5 at SP
Price Column -16.4 at SP
/////////////////////////////////////////
Tom Segal Pricewise Column
18 losers (TS)
1 winners13/8
Present Sequence 12 Losers

Profit/Loss@SP................-16.4
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice -16.4

Tom Segal in October.
The Pricewise Column -7.5 @SP (He has only tipped 2 winners in the paper since the start of October)
Tom Segal Pricewise Extra Oct @ SP +11

Seanohea · 29-11-2009 09:11PM

Looks like they wont be able to boast that theyre in profit every month in their advertising

POINTBREAK · 30-11-2009 12:28AM

Seanohea wrote: »

Looks like they wont be able to boast that theyre in profit every month in their advertising

Yeah thats true. I was reading your other post and you did mention Barr and Segal a good while ago. There is plenty of logic to back it as well. In Segals case he has more time and can pick his races on PWE, and if I remember rightly you said Barr was excellent at the Jumps. Leaving out Collier and Williams would have saved 15 points last month and leaving Segals tips in the paper would have saved 16.4 points as well.

pizzor · 30-11-2009 09:16AM

Does anyone know mel collier's numbers in the last few months is it negative cos with the above posts im seriously considering not betting on collier's selections. I know in October though he got 2 winners in one night, but even if it was only 1 winner that night it would've been a once off right?

POINTBREAK · 30-11-2009 01:00PM

pizzor wrote: »

Does anyone know mel collier's numbers in the last few months is it negative cos with the above posts im seriously considering not betting on collier's selections. I know in October though he got 2 winners in one night, but even if it was only 1 winner that night it would've been a once off right?

Heres the October figures. Mel gave 2 winners and 10 losers in October. In November he 0 winners and 10 losers. The problem is sods law. If you stop betting him he will get a few winners. I stopped betting Colliers and missed his two winners, but it made no difference really because he gaves so many losers. He is Minus 10 points at SP on his last 22 bets.

29th Oct
Pricewise Extra October Monday-Friday ONLY
19 losers (MC 2-10) (AB 3-4)(MWill..2-4)

1 placed (16/1-10/1) (MWill)
7 Winners (13/2-7/1)(AB)15/2-6/1(MWill)4/1(AB)(7/1 9/2)AB MC MC(9/1-5-1)(7/1-7/1)(MWill 2pts 5/1-9/2)

Present Sequence....................... 1 losers.
Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice... PLUS 35.2pts

markhiggins · 30-11-2009 01:07PM

200 folkestone Low Delta 5-1

pizzor · 30-11-2009 03:11PM

well that was not a flashy month hopefully its just a once off, lets hope we have some better luck this upcoming month

markhiggins · 30-11-2009 03:12PM

absolutely disgraceful! horse 4L back at the very start and jockey brought it wide all race. being layed a huge amount before the race. i really have to wonder if there is some sort of foul play here

POINTBREAK · 30-11-2009 03:39PM

markhiggins wrote: »

absolutely disgraceful! horse 4L back at the very start and jockey brought it wide all race. being layed a huge amount before the race. i really have to wonder if there is some sort of foul play here

I have to agree with you. It was another one that was suddenly layed just before the off. Even the bookies pushed it out from 7/2 to 5/1 and it was never at any stage put in the race.

POINTBREAK · 30-11-2009 03:42PM

Mon 30th November PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
25 losers
3 Winners
Andrew Barr 3-10 (5/1-7/2) (3/1-5/2)
Mel Collier 0-10
Matt Williams 0-5
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -13
Profit at SP.................. Minus -16.75
Present Sequence ***_____1100000000000000000000100000

edit ....A recount shows 3 winners from 28 bets . A one in 9 strike rate.

October Final Result
Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice... PLUS 35.2pts

markhiggins · 30-11-2009 03:46PM

they even said it on the racingpost commentary that there was serious laying going on before the race! they questioned what was going on themselves. it has to be one of the biggest flops these guys have given us

POINTBREAK · 30-11-2009 05:02PM

markhiggins wrote: »

they even said it on the racingpost commentary that there was serious laying going on before the race! they questioned what was going on themselves. it has to be one of the biggest flops these guys have given us

It would be interesting if you or I were connected to the horse and knew it had little or no chance. All of a sudden thousands of people want to back it. It must be tempting for the connections who are in the know to take the free money.
There is a definite pattern when the horses are suddenly layed for large money just before the off. I cant remember any of them winning.

pizzor · 01-12-2009 10:48AM

NEW MONTH GUYS LETS DO THIS!!

negwob99 · 01-12-2009 01:08PM

3.00 Lingfield Hurakan

POINTBREAK · 01-12-2009 07:02PM

Tues 1st December PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
1losers
0 Winners
Andrew Barr 0-1
Mel Collier 0-0
Matt Williams 0-0
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -2
Profit at SP.................. Minus -2
Present Sequence ***_____11000000000000000000001000000

NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5

pizzor · 02-12-2009 01:43AM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Tues 1st December PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
1losers
0 Winners
Andrew Barr 0-1
Mel Collier 0-0
Matt Williams 0-0
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -2
Profit at SP.................. Minus -2
Present Sequence ***_____11000000000000000000001000000

NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5

yo pointbreak it was supposed to be a 2 pointer

mike65 · 02-12-2009 11:01AM

yaaaboy wrote: »

a good idea mike but do ye think the bookies will open it up a lot shorter than it should be now?

6.5 this morning, so hardly changed.

essexman · 02-12-2009 11:12AM

Apparently there's an Anteposte Pricewise bet in The King George which I think is on Boxing day at Kempton. The only cut is Madison De Berlais.

Are there pricewise's at Fairyhouse today does anybody know in the paper ?

mike65 · 02-12-2009 01:03PM

Check out the RP tipping page

» Wednesday's advice - 1 11:32am 2 Dec 09

No mention of the race.

pizzor · 02-12-2009 01:04PM

click on it, it has it there

mike65 · 02-12-2009 01:05PM

Only if registered paid up member.

mike65 · 02-12-2009 01:08PM

Phoenix Enforcer Catterick 12.40 looks like the horse anyway

pizzor · 02-12-2009 01:48PM

lost never in it, so already -3 down this month lol

yaaaboy · 02-12-2009 02:11PM

mike65 wrote: »

6.5 this morning, so hardly changed.

it was 11/2 when i backed it earlier, drifting a bit and its 9/2 now.. I saw mel collier tipped up mr warbucks in this race too in his racing post column..this will be the one day he actually gets a winner now at the expense of whatuthink!

pizzor · 02-12-2009 02:26PM

would this PW loss count as a october or december selection lol

POINTBREAK · 02-12-2009 02:31PM

pizzor wrote: »

would this PW loss count as a october or december selection lol

Neither unfortunatly........... I just got in time to see the race but I saw the Racing Post in the bookies and he went off that one and tipped the winner Pandorama at 5/1 I think. He said Whatuthink wasnt value at 5/1
I am surprised no one posted the paper tips ............. he also goes for Nineteenth Minute in the 1-50

yaaaboy · 02-12-2009 02:32PM

i would say october there hasnt been a weekend in december yet. its up to pointbreak i suppose but 1 point wont make much of a difference in the long run anyway.

POINTBREAK · 02-12-2009 03:36PM

Weds 2nd December
Pricewise Extra
Saturday and Sunday ONLY
losers (TS)
winners
Present Sequence 1 Win

[EMAIL="Profit/Loss@SP"]P[/email]rofit/Loss@SP..............
[EMAIL="Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice"]Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice[/EMAIL]
//////////////////////////////////////////
The overall picture this month
PWE Mon/Fri -3 at SP
PWE Tom Segal - 0 at SP
Price Column +1.25 at SP
/////////////////////////////////////////
Tom Segal Pricewise Column
1 losers (TS)
1 winners 5/1-9/4
Present Sequence 12

[EMAIL="Profit/Loss@SP................+1.25"]P[/email]rofit/Loss@SP................+1.25
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice +6

POINTBREAK · 02-12-2009 03:38PM

Weds 2nd December PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
2losers
0 Winners
Andrew Barr 0-1
Mel Collier 0-1
Matt Williams 0-0
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -3
Profit at SP.................. Minus -3
Present Sequence ***_____11000000000000000000001000000

NOV Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP ..................Plus 28.5

essexman · 03-12-2009 12:05PM

Pointbreak, you mentioned seeing the Racing Post yesterday, according to the front page picture on the website there was a Anteposte bet for the King George Chase. Did you notice if it was Madison du Berlais ?

Today there is one for the Welsh National and it must be THe Tother one and Silver by Nature. Have a look at them on the Anteposte section on Oddschecker and you'll see what I mean. Both are the only solid blue lines ie cut with all bookies.

I'm not sure whether to risk Anteposte bets myself but I suppose they should be recorded in the stats

Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

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