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Yusuf (aka Cat Stevens) Jeered and Heckled at comeback gig

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I just can't picture a load of Cat Stevens fans rioting and beating up security men

    are there any videos?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Wow. If you want to attack his music or personality for whatever perverse reasons fair enough, but to suggest he made a commitment to change his religion just to make a bit of money or appear 'exotic' is probably more insulting to the man than any boos or heckles he got last night.

    It turns out that's exactly what I am saying, and ya know what, big mistake as the lad found out in the O2.

    Plenty of precedent Brian.

    Why do people use stage names.?

    ;) wise up big boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Your right, without a doubt your right.

    I wrote it in another discussion, Yusuf is a wonderful, beautiful person. When he sang it was magical, his voice was amazing but it all fell apart very, very quickly.

    I don't think he sat out to rip anyone off, but I felted cheated out of €210.

    My words to my partner when leaving was "come on, we'll hit town and try make a night of this yet" ... I went into town and got locked :P

    But, and its only my own obversation, the bad gig was the spark that ignited that feeling.

    Fair enough, and at least you went and tried to have a good time rather than wrecking everyone else's evening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    [whisper mode]its FlutterinBantam ya muppet [/whisper mode]

    /I'm not really calling you a muppet!.

    Sorry I mistakenly thought a smidden of common decency and respect still existed in the man. Obviously not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    geeky wrote: »
    Or a self made man who worships his creator. Like Bono or Van Morrison.

    the Almighty Dollar didn't create either of them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 propjo


    <LI class=titles>14:31 A Stormy Start to the Tour

    <LI class=imgCont>Strange how God’s nature has a way of telling you the way things are going to go. Perhaps, if I had understood the message hidden in the stormy weather forecast on Saturday evening, I might have been better prepared for what happened the next night at Dublin’s O2.
    It was uncanny in more ways than one – not least given that the leading figure of the Moonshadow part of Sunday’s show (which caused most of the controversy for a small section of the audience) was also called Stormy!
    I must admit, it was something I’d never experienced for most of my musical career – apart from Greece perhaps, where I stormed off stage because of the half empty halls back at the end of the 1976 Majikat Tour. They had a right to complain, those fans who had taken the trouble to come undeterred by the football match (against England) that day, or the looming exams which they were about to face.
    The fact that another major tournament coincided this time (Ireland vs. Australia rugby match) – and the tendency of some to drown away the blues of a hapless draw with a few more gallons of Guinness – obviously didn’t help either.
    But the good thing was that this time, the Hall wasn’t half full – it was full; brimming with excited fans and music lovers from all over the world. In fact, for me that was the most positive aspect of the whole climactic event; the real message was that they missed me being on stage! Well that’s much easier to take than not buying tickets or booing me off.
    So I took the complaints overall as a compliment, albeit an unnerving one especially for the cast and creative team who had put their entire bodies and souls into the Moonshadow section, so I can only feel sorry for them. They did a great job and 90% of the audience that night (and some major reviews) recognised that.
    Philosophically and educationally I have gained something from the experience, so has the public generally and we can now move on to the next gig a bit more prepared. One thing is clear: many of the fans didn’t know much about the Moonshadow section – and some thought I wasn’t coming back on stage. That can easily be fixed with a free program for the night and me personally informing the audience of what’s going to happen.
    Perhaps a shorter segment of the Musical will also help tighten things up, and we’re already working on that.
    Nevertheless, for those who believe that 33 years away from stage spotlights doesn’t change anything, it must be a wake up call. I didn’t go through my life, altering my pattern of behaviour, building my faith and getting close to Divine consciousness without making serious changes to the way I do things.
    My voice doesn’t seem to have altered, which for many fans is already a Godsend. But to not expect me to sing my favourite new songs, from two carefully and thoughtfully created albums, and demand a ‘Beam me up Scotty’ return to the Cat Stevens persona of yesterday, is more than any amount of imagination can hope for. If the advertising was in anyway sending out a different message, then I can only apologise for that – but my name, ‘YUSUF’, can’t practically be printed any bigger.
    Hey, I’m back. And as I said in Dublin, ‘I didn’t leave you.. so don’t leave me.’
    Yusuf
    tourposter2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Sorry I mistakenly thought a smidden of common decency and respect still existed in the man. Obviously not.


    Aaah Brian, thats what happens when someone tries to take Joe Public for a ride.

    Had auld Cat come on and banged out all his old hits what kind of a gig would it have been..... kick ass rocking, thats what.

    Punters going home sweating and happy... but did he do that??

    Nooo way, lets put a saddle on these gimps and take them for a fooking ride,seems to have been the attitude.

    With predictable results TG;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/6584019/Yusuf-Islam-coming-out-of-the-Moonshadows.html

    hahahahah This has to be the laziest piece of journalism i have ever read
    He talks about going on spiritual journeys a lot. In his new tour he previews a musical he has written, named after his hit, 'Moonshadow'. His new tour contains a preview of it which received a standing ovation when it premiered in Dublin on Sunday

    Really?? A standing ovation??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Aaah Brian, thats what happens when someone tries to take Joe Public for a ride.

    Had auld Cat come on and banged out all his old hits what kind of a gig would it have been..... kick ass rocking, thats what.

    Punters going home sweating and happy... but did he do that??

    Nooo way, lets put a saddle on these gimps and take them for a fooking ride,seems to have been the attitude.

    With predictable results TG;)


    Too true..and it wasnt like people got this pretentious shiite for nothing..a hundred notes a ticket..he wont get into the garden of allah with that brass neck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    propjo wrote: »
    <LI class=titles>14:31 A Stormy Start to the Tour

    <LI class=imgCont>Strange how God’s nature has a way of telling you the way things are going to go. Perhaps, if I had understood the message hidden in the stormy weather forecast on Saturday evening, I might have been better prepared for what happened the next night at Dublin’s O2.
    It was uncanny in more ways than one – not least given that the leading figure of the Moonshadow part of Sunday’s show (which caused most of the controversy for a small section of the audience) was also called Stormy!
    I must admit, it was something I’d never experienced for most of my musical career – apart from Greece perhaps, where I stormed off stage because of the half empty halls back at the end of the 1976 Majikat Tour. They had a right to complain, those fans who had taken the trouble to come undeterred by the football match (against England) that day, or the looming exams which they were about to face.
    The fact that another major tournament coincided this time (Ireland vs. Australia rugby match) – and the tendency of some to drown away the blues of a hapless draw with a few more gallons of Guinness – obviously didn’t help either.
    But the good thing was that this time, the Hall wasn’t half full – it was full; brimming with excited fans and music lovers from all over the world. In fact, for me that was the most positive aspect of the whole climactic event; the real message was that they missed me being on stage! Well that’s much easier to take than not buying tickets or booing me off.
    So I took the complaints overall as a compliment, albeit an unnerving one especially for the cast and creative team who had put their entire bodies and souls into the Moonshadow section, so I can only feel sorry for them. They did a great job and 90% of the audience that night (and some major reviews) recognised that.
    Philosophically and educationally I have gained something from the experience, so has the public generally and we can now move on to the next gig a bit more prepared. One thing is clear: many of the fans didn’t know much about the Moonshadow section – and some thought I wasn’t coming back on stage. That can easily be fixed with a free program for the night and me personally informing the audience of what’s going to happen.
    Perhaps a shorter segment of the Musical will also help tighten things up, and we’re already working on that.
    Nevertheless, for those who believe that 33 years away from stage spotlights doesn’t change anything, it must be a wake up call. I didn’t go through my life, altering my pattern of behaviour, building my faith and getting close to Divine consciousness without making serious changes to the way I do things.
    My voice doesn’t seem to have altered, which for many fans is already a Godsend. But to not expect me to sing my favourite new songs, from two carefully and thoughtfully created albums, and demand a ‘Beam me up Scotty’ return to the Cat Stevens persona of yesterday, is more than any amount of imagination can hope for. If the advertising was in anyway sending out a different message, then I can only apologise for that – but my name, ‘YUSUF’, can’t practically be printed any bigger.
    Hey, I’m back. And as I said in Dublin, ‘I didn’t leave you.. so don’t leave me.’
    Yusuf
    tourposter2.jpg

    Pretty reasonable response, and it's probably a good thing to shorten the moonshadow segment. And to explain it to happen to anything thick enough to pay €70+ for concert tickets with no idea of what the act will entail.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    And there was me thinking the principle of entertainment was entertaining the people.

    Where did I go wrong:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    thorbarry wrote: »
    Really?? A standing ovation??

    Well, people walking out waving their fists. Close.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    geeky wrote: »
    Pretty reasonable response, and it's probably a good thing to shorten the moonshadow segment. And to explain it to happen to anything thick enough to pay €70+ for concert tickets with no idea of what the act will entail.

    WTF gives you the right to sit at the comfort of your keyboard and call people "Thick"?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    WTF gives you the right to sit at the comfort of your keyboard and call people "Thick"?.
    Because its the only chance he ever gets to insult people without fearing for his life
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    geeky wrote: »
    And to explain it to happen to anything thick enough to pay €70+ for concert tickets with no idea of what the act will entail.

    I'm Starting With The Man In The Mirror
    I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways
    And No Message Could Have Been Any Clearer
    If You Wanna Make The World A Better Place
    Take A Look At Yourself And Then Make A Change.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Degsy wrote: »
    I'm a go to Paul Mccartney and scream "Play the Froggy Chorus you droopy-faced cuckolded lover of One-legged golddiggers".
    Well in fairness to him he does do a 3 hour show and most of the crowd faves. Not all as he does have more than most. No weird interludes either, only a few encores.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Degsy wrote: »
    Too true..and it wasnt like people got this pretentious shiite for nothing..a hundred notes a ticket..he wont get into the garden of allah with that brass neck.

    One the one hand, people say that we don't complain enough at the Rip-off culture and now people are complaining that we're complaining too-much!

    We're a nation of complainers.

    However, I can understand the frustration of the crowd. Peace train? Gravy train more like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,042 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    i would discourage the comments that were mad towards him but have to say 40 quid for that seems crazy.

    Think maybe some people were more angry at other things then just him.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ElaElaElano


    I'm siding with the heckler on this one.

    If he wants to sing out, he'll sing out. If he wants to be free, he'll be free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Whoever said we're not a boisterous country when it comes to this kind of thing sounds right to me.

    So I can only imagine that people were sorely tested. It's not like a load of (I assume) hardcore fans pay that amount of money just to go along and heckle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Putting an ad in the middle of your concert is pure asshole behaviour tbh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I wouldnt imagine the appearance of Ronan "The Dickhead" Keating helped much..those two were lucky to escape with thier lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    He promised the crowd a surprise during his second encore and Ronan Keating joined Yusuf to perform Father and Son to widespread applause.

    Applauding yourself isn't widespread applause Ronan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Degsy wrote: »
    I wouldnt imagine the appearance of Ronan "The Dickhead" Keating helped much..those two were lucky to escape with thier lives.

    im sure it was red rag to a bull time for the audience when this talentless bastard wormed his way onto the stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭discobeaker


    Moojuice wrote: »
    And if U2 had only played obscure B-sides and/or little known songs, would they have go the same reaction?

    I think if U2 played Bsides or older songs it would have been classed as a treat for U2 fans. Sure look at the new REM album from the olympia. They demoed tracks from an album that was not released and then played all Bsides and tracks that were not known or ones that had not been played before

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_The_Olympia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Must have been bad if the crowd weren't focusing their hate on gerry f***in ryan. Bet he kept turning around when people shouted "D**KHEAD!!" :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Bambi wrote: »
    Must have been bad if the crowd weren't focusing their hate on gerry f***in ryan. Bet he kept turning around when people shouted "D**KHEAD!!" :)


    He probably got the hell out of there when he saw the mood of the crowd..Pat Kenny got it on Frontline from a lunatic..Gerry Ryan would've been necklaced in the carpark lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Degsy wrote: »
    He probably got the hell out of there when he saw the mood of the crowd..Pat Kenny got it on Frontline from a lunatic..Gerry Ryan would've been necklaced in the carpark lol.

    I think there is a real fear among the cognac swilling and cigar puffing class that the little people have had enough.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I think there is a real fear among the cognac swilling and cigar puffing class that the little people have had enough.....


    About time too..they've been pissing on the common man for too long and now the worm has turned.
    To listen to Gerry Ryan babbling his pseudo-proletariat bootlicking drivel this morning.you'd think he saw a mob assembling a guilotene outside montrose or something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    MoominPapa wrote: »
    Thats when I would have started with the effin' and the blindin'

    OMG, when you said "He promised the crowd a surprise during his second encore and Ronan Keating joined Yusuf to perform Father and Son to widespread applause" I thought you were being quite funny until I realised that really happened!!

    WTF!!


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