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What is "Rich"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    First it should be means tested (at least). Can't believe it still isn't.
    Interesting vox pop on Newstalk to-day when a reporter wwas sent into the leafy lanes of South Dublin to ask about of means testing the childrens allowance.

    Spoke to mainly females from the SUV driving / sun glasses wearin fraternity..who although they admitted to incomes of greater than 100k..and mortages of > 1 million claimed not to be rich !

    Sent their kids to private schools too ..most of em.

    Said they "depended" on the Childresns All to pay for the "extras and were very indignant at the thought of the C/A being reduced / means tested.

    So what is rich.....private schools....big pads.....SUV'S.

    One made the valid point that why should she be villified for spending 5k on private schools over someone who spends a similiar amt on booze an baccy ??

    Eh ?

    How is that valid?
    First off means tests are based on income so if this person is making the same money but spending it on fags on booze they would be subject to the same test.


    Here IS a valid question for ya.
    John on 20k a year gets no child benefit because he hasn't had any sprogs yet he pays the same tax as everyone else. Mary (earning 20k a year) and Matt (earning 150k a year) married with kids for some reason get extra money a week in benefits from the state as well as tax breaks for being married, part of which John contributes too. Why should John not be pissed off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Here IS a valid question for ya.
    John on 20k a year gets no child benefit because he hasn't had any sprogs yet he pays the same tax as everyone else. Mary (earning 20k a year) and Matt (earning 150k a year) married with kids for some reason get extra money a week in benefits from the state as well as tax breaks for being married, part of which John contributes too. Why should John not be pissed off?

    Because Mary is a cow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Because Mary is a cow.

    And he knows Matt is sleeping with Louise behind her back...:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    First it should be means tested (at least). Can't believe it still isn't.



    How is that valid?
    First off means tests are based on income so if this person is making the same money but spending it on fags on booze they would be subject to the same test.


    Here IS a valid question for ya.
    John on 20k a year gets no child benefit because he hasn't had any sprogs yet he pays the same tax as everyone else. Mary (earning 20k a year) and Matt (earning 150k a year) married with kids for some reason get extra money a week in benefits from the state as well as tax breaks for being married, part of which John contributes too. Why should John not be pissed off?

    John doesn't earn enough to pay IT...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Because Mary is a cow.

    No, it's because John and Matt are having an affair and John is jealous that Matt goes home to Mary every night.

    It's quite sad actually. Poor John. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭marbar


    100k ayear and i'd gladly wave any child benefits


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    No, it's because John and Matt are having an affair and John is jealous that Matt goes home to Mary every night.

    It's quite sad actually. Poor John. :(

    That's why Mary is a cow, she won't let him go.


    LET HIM GO MARY.....let him go...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    For gods sake womon will ya let him go .......:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    TheZohan wrote: »
    That's why Mary is a cow, she won't let him go.


    LET HIM GO MARY.....let him go...
    Latchy wrote: »
    For gods sake womon will ya let him go .......:mad:

    She's getting tax breaks from the government too you know. What a cunt. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Now I'm not Mary's biggest fan but won't you guys think of the children?!!
    (What a 180 turn :D)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    She's getting tax breaks from the government too you know. What a cunt. :mad:


    Would have thought she's being paid enough in that cushy teachers job teaching Roma children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    She's getting tax breaks from the government too you know. What a cunt. :mad:
    Now why ya have to tell me that ...jeez that'll play on my mind ..big time .:mad:

    And that neighbour of mine had better turn down that music down or else ..else ..I arghh... I dunno ...:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Would have thought she's being paid enough in that cushy teachers job teaching Roma children.

    She shouldn't even have the job. What with her being a nonce and all. I hear her marriage to Matt is just a front.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Rich is when you have no precise idea how much you're actually worth, but you have a very good idea of the size of your tax bill. Rich is when the bank will give you money you and they know you don't need. Rich is when you have a lot of debts. Manageable ones though.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rich, is when you never need to worry whenever a bill comes in as there is always cash available to pay it off in one go NO credit debt/loan is needed to continue the lifestyle you are accustomed to.


  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Rich is when you have no precise idea how much you're actually worth, but you have a very good idea of the size of your tax bill. Rich is when the bank will give you money you and they know you don't need. Rich is when you have a lot of debts. Manageable ones though.
    Rich is when the banks worry about the size of your debt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Me. I am rich.

    C'mon ladies...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    50,000,001


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭palaver


    Being rich is quite relative. There are measures in every country about the poverty margin which, of course, depends on the economic power of the said country.

    A friend once sent me an article from some official institution which measured the difference between rich and poor. Sorry no link and no memory which institution and the exact wording.

    Basically, in a worldwide sense, being well off means:
    to have a safe home - to have enough to eat - to have clean water - to have sufficient clothing -to have sufficient hygiene- to have an education of some sorts -to have a decent healthcare.

    Only about 10 % (approximate guess out of memory) of the world population can claim to be well off in this sense.

    In a worldwide sense being rich means beyond the above to afford luxuries
    like
    - electricity, telephone, TV, computer, holidays etc.
    About 5 % (again approximate guess) of the world population can afford that.

    Everything above that is mega-rich, which amounts to just 1 % or less of the world population.

    Looking at the big picture we all in the western world can claim at least to be well off or even rich.

    But of course, we in the western world would cry poverty! when we can't afford two foreign holidays anymore. Or, god forbid, loose a bit of money in an investment or wages.

    I think sometimes people forget over here ,or in the western world as such, how rich they actually are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭JTER


    http://www.globalrichlist.com/

    Here is a shocking although probably wildly inaccurate calculator.

    Put in 1000euro a year and see!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭khmk


    To be the captain of liverpool f.c. and be caught on camera throwing cowardly punches along with my two mates in a 3 on 1 fight in a bar .....and still get off with all charges.

    thats rich my friend.


    Y.S.B.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Murphyt


    Living in Ireland I would say that earning 100K would make you well off but not rich, however it would mean you have enough not to need child benefit.
    I think that anyone who pays tax should not receive any contributions from the government, the reason being that if you earn enough to pay tax then why would you get some of it back, I mean why pay tax just to get it back when you should not have paid that part of the tax in the first place if you so badly need it.
    If it is the case that you need contributions in order to live then you should not be paying tax in the first place. The levels at which we pay tax are wrong, it would need some serious calculating but if we can work out what is needed to survive in this country then above that you pay tax on an icreasing scale such that if you earn a good wage then after tax you would still be slightly beter off than someone who earns slightly less than you, also anyone who does not work is not better off than the person who works at the lowest end of the scale. This of course is not the case in this country as you can be unemployed and better off than some of the employed people.
    There needs to be serious change and radical views put on tax and benefits; just as a point did you know that in the U.S if you are on social welfare that you cannot win the lotto, as the contributions made to you are not for gambling so you cannot claim the winnings!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Fairly f*cking disgusting if you ask me. Carpets are sinks for bad smells. Tiles all the way for bathrooms.

    Rich...I would consider someone rich if they don't have to worry about money. Like, they are able to take a foreign holiday a year, have a new car, pay for their kids education, and still don't have to worry about money.

    jesus i wouldnt call that rich

    high standard of living yes, but rich? no way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭giftgrub


    My mother used to say it was about what value you put on things.

    She said a lot of people were all about "surface wealth", which meant they had a big house, two cars in the drive but f**k all in the fridge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Rich to me is being able to enjoy life to the fullest without worrying about money. Take a holiday if you feel like it, buy any gadgets you like the look of... Having enough in the bank to do so without ever having to think about taking out a loan.

    Tis ****ing horrible if you get accustomed to that then have it ripped away from you (I'm now on €13,000 LESS than I was this time last year, and spend €300 extra per month on travel... Yay!)

    Back on topic - if you're on 100k, then get the **** out of here and pay for your own child support you money grubbing *****!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Rich is anyone who earns 10K more than me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Rich is when you sue your neighbour over a field :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    omahaid wrote: »
    Rich is when you sue your neighbour over a field :D

    poor is when you kill your neighbour over a field


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    Kiera wrote: »
    Ew no! Thats just minging!

    I'd have to agree what would Kim and Aggie think!! yuk


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    There are a lot of People out there that have the big house the 2 cars in the drive way and the couple of holidays away and then collect their dole of a Tuesday! I personally don't know how they do it!!


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