Hugh Taylor November Tips

j@utis · 13-11-2009 08:22PM

yeah, the fact that today is the Friday the 13th must have helped

so today's results are:
12.35 LINGFIELD
HURAKAN win SP 11/4

3.55 LINGFIELD
KARASHAR unplaced SP 9/1

6.50 WOLVERHAMPTON
MEGALO MANIAC unplaced SP 4/1

qc3 · 13-11-2009 11:55PM

the 13 Pts earned today will help but I still have him @ -13 Pts for October.

mike65 · 14-11-2009 11:36AM

1.55 CHELTENHAM
1pt win HELLO BUD (15-2 Sportingbet , 7-1 general) 7.50

2.35 CHELTENHAM
2pt each way HOLD EM (33-1 Totesport, Ladbrokes, William Hill) 26.00

3.35 LINGFIELD
2pts each way DORIC LADY (25-1 Sportingbet, 22-1 Bet365, Skybet) 15.00

Kod-box · 14-11-2009 03:57PM

mike65 wrote: »

1.55 CHELTENHAM
1pt win HELLO BUD (15-2 Sportingbet , 7-1 general) 7.50 placed

2.35 CHELTENHAM
2pt each way HOLD EM (33-1 Totesport, Ladbrokes, William Hill) 26.00 placed

3.35 LINGFIELD
2pts each way DORIC LADY (25-1 Sportingbet, 22-1 Bet365, Skybet) 15.00

:cool:

j@utis · 14-11-2009 04:19PM

1.55 CHELTENHAM
1pt win HELLO BUD (15-2 Sportingbet , 7-1 general) placed SP 8-1

2.35 CHELTENHAM
2pt each way HOLD EM (33-1 Totesport, Ladbrokes, William Hill) 26.00 placed SP 14-1

3.35 LINGFIELD
2pts each way DORIC LADY (25-1 Sportingbet, 22-1 Bet365, Skybet) 15.00 WON SP 14-1

Kod-box · 14-11-2009 04:43PM

feck it missed the off by seconds

mike65 · 14-11-2009 05:11PM

Thats a bit better.

qc3 · 14-11-2009 08:40PM

Big change today.Hugh is + 62.25 Pts for October so far @ advised stakes

mike65 · 15-11-2009 10:58AM

2.55 CHELTENHAM

1pt each way WELLFORTH (16-1 general) 12.00

1pt each way FRUITY O'ROONEY (33-1 Skybet, William Hill) 21.00

j@utis · 15-11-2009 04:38PM

2.55 CHELTENHAM

1pt each way WELLFORTH (16-1 general) 12.00 unplaced SP 11-1

1pt each way FRUITY O'ROONEY (33-1 Skybet, William Hill) 21.00 unplaced SP 10-1

Dun laoire · 16-11-2009 10:35AM

j@utis wrote: »

1.55 CHELTENHAM
1pt win HELLO BUD (15-2 Sportingbet , 7-1 general) placed SP 8-1

2.35 CHELTENHAM
2pt each way HOLD EM (33-1 Totesport, Ladbrokes, William Hill) 26.00 placed SP 14-1

3.35 LINGFIELD
2pts each way DORIC LADY (25-1 Sportingbet, 22-1 Bet365, Skybet) 15.00 WON SP 14-1

Anybody get the odds advised? He's gonna clean up on Doric Lady with his "Advised" price.

mike65 · 16-11-2009 11:24AM

3.30 WOLVERHAMPTON
1pt each way AUGUSTUS JOHN (10-1 bet365, Ladbrokes, Stan James) 9.00

4.00 WOLVERHAMPTON
1pt win IVORY SILK (8-1 general) 7.00 (Oddschecker starts it at 10s into 8s at 9.10 am)

A further selection before 11 am

Hennessy Gold Cup - Barbers Shop 20/1

All selections up

j@utis · 16-11-2009 05:10PM

3.30 WOLVERHAMPTON
1pt each way AUGUSTUS JOHN (10-1 bet365, Ladbrokes, Stan James) 9.00 placed SP 11/2

4.00 WOLVERHAMPTON
1pt win IVORY SILK (8-1 general) 7.00 placed SP 6/1

mike65 · 16-11-2009 05:35PM

His overall strike rate (I regard anything thats placed at e/w prices as a hit) appears to be coming back up.

Moro Man · 16-11-2009 09:37PM

Dun laoire wrote: »

Anybody get the odds advised? He's gonna clean up on Doric Lady with his "Advised" price.

Got 33/1 about Holdem with Cashmans and 20/1 Doric Lady with Ladbrokes both about an hour before their races...

By the way it's kinda obvious that a price will change ( especially in a low grade handicap ) if a tipping line / tv tipster that has a good record tips them up.

If he didn't tip the horses they wouldn't shorten them up unless the stable / someone else fancied them.

So I think he can claim the prices as genuine when he gives out his tips and therefore he can use them for his profit / loss figures.

As for these long losing streaks certain posters would regard Holdem as a loser...

If you want consecutive winners stick to Kieran 'I Wouldn't Oppose An Oddson Shot' O'Connell for a month to level stakes and tell us how much you lose. You will of course like him back more winners and tell everyone that you are Ireland's top topster because of this

POINTBREAK · 16-11-2009 10:33PM

Moro Man wrote: »

So I think he can claim the prices as genuine when he gives out his tips and therefore he can use them for his profit / loss figures.

As for these long losing streaks certain posters would regard Holdem as a loser...

It was me who counted up his long sequences of losers. I didnt count returns from each way bets as winners, but at the same time I didnt count his each way bets that lost as two losers.

qc3 · 16-11-2009 11:14PM

I have Hugh @ +65.55 Pts @ advised stakes for November
His 2 pt @ 25/1 win Advised helped him alot this month.

If I calculated right, Hugh is + 7.75 Pts For NOVEMBER @ sp

Nulty · 16-11-2009 11:26PM

qc3 wrote: »

I have Hugh @ +65.55 Pts @ advised stakes for October.
His 2 pt @ 25/1 win Advised helped him alot this month.

It's November....or am I missing something?

POINTBREAK · 17-11-2009 12:41AM

qc3 wrote: »

I have Hugh @ +65.55 Pts @ advised stakes for November
His 2 pt @ 25/1 win Advised helped him alot this month.

If I calculated right, Hugh is + 7.75 Pts For NOVEMBER @ sp

How many bets was there?

qc3 · 17-11-2009 09:42AM

38 tips in total.
4 wins,

Advised sp
12/1 10/1
6/1 5/1
13/2 11/4
15/1 14/1

10 Placed
25/1 7/1
15/2 8/1
4/1 9/2
14/1 17/2
16/1 15/2
15/2 8/1
33/1 14/1
10/1 11/2
8/1 6/1

Streak without winners 13 tips and 10 tips

mike65 · 17-11-2009 11:35AM

1.50 SOUTHWELL

1 pt each-way PRINCESS SHAMAL (20-1 Paddy Power, VC Bet) 13.00 :eek:

PRINCESS SHAMAL’s prospects are less obvious, but I reckon she’s a 10-1 chance currently trading at 16s so she makes a little appeal in the nursery (1.50)

j@utis · 17-11-2009 03:10PM

mike65 wrote: »

1.50 SOUTHWELL

1 pt each-way PRINCESS SHAMAL (20-1 Paddy Power, VC Bet) 13.00 :eek:

unplaced SP 12-1

qc3 · 17-11-2009 05:15PM

+63.55 @ advised Pts
+5.75 @ SP

POINTBREAK · 17-11-2009 06:01PM

qc3 wrote: »

+63.55 @ advised Pts
+5.75 @ SP

Its interesting to keep a track of how hes going. I just couldnt afford to follow him though.

mike65 · 18-11-2009 11:08AM

12.30 LINGFIELD
1 pt win MISS STARLIGHT (10-1 Totesport) 9.00

2.00 LINGFIELD
1 pt win GALLANTRY (11-1 William Hill) 10.00

9.20 KEMPTON
3 pts win GOODBYE CASH (8-1 general) 6.00

qc3 · 18-11-2009 01:37PM

I like the first two but i'm not shouting for GOODBYE CASH tonight.
It would be bad luck;);)

j@utis · 18-11-2009 03:49PM

12.30 LINGFIELD
1 pt win MISS STARLIGHT (10-1 Totesport) 9.00 unplaced finished 2nd last SP 15/2

2.00 LINGFIELD
1 pt win GALLANTRY (11-1 William Hill) 10.00 unplaced 4th SP 15/2

9.20 KEMPTON
3 pts win GOODBYE CASH (8-1 general) 6.00 unplaced 7th SP 13/2

diverdriver · 18-11-2009 04:23PM

I think Hugh Taylor is an excellent tipster. The fact that he makes consistent profits at advised prices proves that. But the flaw is that he looks for value in his bets. So he looks for a 6/1 shot that's priced at 10/1. The bookies know that too and cut the price straight away. So we mug punters never get the value unless you are hovering over the ATR website and can get on before the price is cut. The horse he picks isn't neccessarily the most likely winner just the one with the most value that has a chance.

So I have decided to oppose him in the last few days. Since then I've had one winner and a bunch of ew places mostly finishing ahead of his tip. My reasoning is that I can get value on the other horses who sometime drift in response to his tip dropping in price.

I missed the first two tips today but tonight I'm going for Leelu in the 9:20 although I do think I have a saver on his tip. Leelu is well drawn and a good price for a consistent horse or was because it's been cut too so somebody else thinks like me. Goodbye Cash has been cut to 5/1 now and is no value. The favourite is poorly drawn and no value at all.

So Leelu in the 9:20, see if my run continues.

aidankk · 18-11-2009 04:55PM

diverdriver wrote: »

I think Hugh Taylor is an excellent tipster. The fact that he makes consistent profits at advised prices proves that. But the flaw is that he looks for value in his bets. So he looks for a 6/1 shot that's priced at 10/1. The bookies know that too and cut the price straight away. So we mug punters never get the value unless you are hovering over the ATR website and can get on before the price is cut. The horse he picks isn't neccessarily the most likely winner just the one with the most value that has a chance.

So I have decided to oppose him in the last few days. Since then I've had one winner and a bunch of ew places mostly finishing ahead of his tip. My reasoning is that I can get value on the other horses who sometime drift in response to his tip dropping in price.

I missed the first two tips today but tonight I'm going for Leelu in the 9:20 although I do think I have a saver on his tip. Leelu is well drawn and a good price for a consistent horse or was because it's been cut too so somebody else thinks like me. Goodbye Cash has been cut to 5/1 now and is no value. The favourite is poorly drawn and no value at all.

So Leelu in the 9:20, see if my run continues.

This is not a flaw, this is the only way to stay ahead, look for value..

diverdriver · 18-11-2009 05:40PM

No Aidan, you misunderstand and I didn't make myself clear. I know that's the point. Value is everything. But it's hard to get the value when the bookies cut the price. The value goes. I've seen him tip up a 10/1 horse saying it should have been 6/1. By that time on most bookies, the price was 6/1. The value was gone.

If his tips weren't published for all to see, you might get the value price. But as it is, it's hard now that he's known to be quite good. That's the flaw; his tips being very public. But even if he had a tipping line the bookies would simply sign up and cut the price. I was a member of one tipping line who always looked for value. At times I would be sitting at the computer with the phone to my ear at the exact time the tip was put out only to see the price change before my eyes. The bookies subscribe too.

Goodbye Cash was 8/1 now it's as low as 4/1. The value is gone.

Hugh Taylor November Tips

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