The progressive degeneration of Irish Comedy

Professey Chin · 13-11-2009 11:05AM

humanji wrote: »

I think the problem is that for some reason, RTE only pick ****e comedians to put on tv. But they've a history of putting ****e on, so why would they change that?

Katherine Lynch :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Kipperhell · 13-11-2009 11:06AM

Very strange thread that could have been good except for the fact the comedians mentioned as good British comics span a wide range of time.

John Cleese hasn't appeared to do anything funny in a while and what he has done has been written by others. Harry Enfield just lost the plot and ceases to be funny.

As mentioned Graham Linehan kind of sticks out as a pretty big indicator of how the OP is wrong.

Jason Byrne could have remained funny but just became a hack.

Generally anybody that is any good will leave the country to earn more money due to the population size.

Sean Hughes was very good but I have no idea what he is doing now.

Due to the small nature of the comedy scene some people will get TV work for just being around. Dolores O Riordain being a prime example of somebody who was used because she was basically the only female comedian but she was never funny.

markesmith · 13-11-2009 11:07AM

Maxwell was funny last night on the Panel, I thought. I can't stand Jason Byrne, he just shouts in a really irritating Dublin accent.

MikeC101 · 13-11-2009 11:10AM

Kipperhell wrote: »

Dolores O Riordain being a prime example of somebody who was used because she was basically the only female comedian but she was never funny.

Methinks you mean someone else? Or is there a non Cranberries Dolores O Riordan?

Professey Chin · 13-11-2009 11:12AM

MikeC101 wrote: »

Methinks you mean someone else? Or is there a non Cranberries Dolores O Riordan?

I think he means Deirdre O'Kane (unfunny bint)

phasers · 13-11-2009 11:12AM

Kipperhell wrote: »

Dolores O Riordain being a prime example of somebody who was used because she was basically the only female comedian but she was never funny.

Do you mean Deirdre O'Kane? I hate her

WindSock · 13-11-2009 11:26AM

I think David O Doherty is quite good. And unique.

Dylan Moran is a good writer. Black Books was great.

BraziliaNZ · 13-11-2009 11:35AM

Yes the DOD is funny, fresh approach to comedy. Also Dylan Moran is up there with the best of his generation I think. I never understood how that Andrew Maxwell bloke got on the panel, he has never said anything funny in his life. I used to like Jason Byrne but now he's just an idiot.

Publicdiservice · 13-11-2009 11:44AM

Comedy is a previous posters have suggested very subjective but there are some great comedians in Ireland that can't get the air time. Robbie Bonham is one and John Colleary is another.
Sadly to make a living from it here you need to get TV time.

Kipperhell · 13-11-2009 11:51AM

phasers wrote: »

Do you mean Deirdre O'Kane? I hate her

Yes sorry that was who I was thinking of weird brain melt thing

homerjay2005 · 13-11-2009 11:51AM

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

The only reason people think Dara O'Briain is funny.

errm, cant stand him, dont find him one bit funny. everything he does ,is scripted and he as a week to prepare it. the panel is a sham of a program!

Tommy Tiernan is a funny funny c*nt and, while the people of Dublin may or may not agree, Pat Short is one funny man also.

the rest are as funny as any man with a sense of humour, they just have the balls to try and make a living out of it.

phasers · 13-11-2009 11:53AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Tommy Tiernan is a funny funny c*nt and, while the people of Dublin may or may not agree, Pat Short is one funny man also.

Lol you're funny, have you ever thought of doing stnad up comedy?

Kaldorn · 13-11-2009 12:01PM

Frankie Boyle is a legend as well as the rest of the mock the week panel bar darragh o briain who just keeps his mouth open goin eeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeh...Irish Comedy is ****e bar Dillon Moran, Sean Hughes and by far the worst transfer from tv to comedy is PJ Gallagher God He is awfull awfull and that corconian burd from naked camera Awfull..dont get me started on RTE...they really need some young people making decision about new comedy on there and shake it up a bit..there has to be untapped grat original comedy that is not getting the chance..i am funnier than most of them..only problem is i do it in the pub and not on stage...

Brian CivilEng · 13-11-2009 12:03PM

The one funny comedy show RTÉ had on in recent years was The Modest Adventures of David O'Doherty, and that was not renewed. With a bit of ambition that show could have been exported around the world, the DO'D is like an irish Flight of the Conchords.

genericguy · 13-11-2009 12:05PM

MikeC101 wrote: »

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, he already has. And word on the street is....he's filming a new show for RTE.

NOOOOOOO!!!

Theta · 13-11-2009 12:18PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

errm, cant stand him, dont find him one bit funny. everything he does ,is scripted and he as a week to prepare it. the panel is a sham of a program!

Tommy Tiernan is a funny funny c*nt and, while the people of Dublin may or may not agree, Pat Short is one funny man also.

the rest are as funny as any man with a sense of humour, they just have the balls to try and make a living out of it.

Well then you have never seen his stand up. About 40% of the show id say is him asking people what they do for a living and a bit about them and having a laugh with them, well it was when I saw him.

blackbetty69 · 13-11-2009 12:25PM

couldnt agree with the op more.. was watchin the panel last nite but had to turn it off due to the fact it was not one bit funny.. u can see the likes of maxwell crack a joke that he finds funny but the audience dont, and when he doesnt hear any reaction from the crowd he makes the joke more farfetched than it already is and thats the q for audience laughter.. they sense his desperation

a disgrace if u ask me, anyone finding that muck funny has a sick sense of humour

5starpool · 13-11-2009 12:26PM

Frankie Boyle is awful. I watched about 30 mins of a stand up routine of his on TV and a couple of episodes of mock the week before I gave up on him.

Not funny.

Lux23 · 13-11-2009 12:32PM

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

The only reason people think Dara O'Briain is funny is that he is fat, bald and has an English accent.

And if you think that the Panel was ever funny, you don't have a clue about comedy.

Is comedy not about what makes you laugh? Do you have to know things in order to laugh? The Panel was at times funny and if that means I know feck all comedy that so be it, it hardly matters once i get a laugh.

Seriously why does comedy have to be take so seriously?

Jason Mc · 13-11-2009 12:40PM

Hey u forgot Conal Gallen and May McFetridge

orourkeda · 13-11-2009 12:43PM

waitinforatrain wrote: »

1. Every comedian tests their jokes. Who would tell jokes that nobody found funny?

2. Stephen Fry - not funny
David Mitchell - good in peep show but only because he's playing his cringey self
Harry Enfield - same **** sketches over again
Frankie Boyle - world's biggest **** (see his dvds before you disagree)

Never heard of the rest of them.

We still have Dylan Moran and Dara O'Briain

You've never heard of John Cleese? Do you fancy a career as astand up comedian?

Aidric · 13-11-2009 12:48PM

I never saw the appeal in Dreary O Briain. His stand up and tv work is usually the same boring routine about how we're a mad bunch of feckers altogether. Yawn.
The only comedian I respect from Ireland is Dylan Moran.

Sleepy · 13-11-2009 12:48PM

Kaldorn wrote: »

that corconian burd from naked camera Awfull...

The best argument for slapping a woman I've ever come across!

There are 12 year olds sitting at the back of classrooms all over Ireland that have a better command of the English language and more natural wit.

longshanks · 13-11-2009 01:18PM

what about that fat cork dickhead with the show where she bakes a cake?

' and like, i went to the shop, and like, i bought some flour, but like, did you ever notice the thing about flour, like.................'

what the fuck are you on about you headmelting cork wreck?

Turd Ferguson · 13-11-2009 02:03PM

While comedy is subjective, I think its fairly well known that RTE have not made a decent comedy show EVER*. There are a few good Irish comedians out there and I'm sure they have alot of good ideas so it really confuses me why instead of taking a chance on an unknown comedian they chose to thrown David "I have a Jew nose which I think automatically makes me funny,although everyone thinks I'm a cunt" McSavage and Karl "the cake is not a lie for him" Spain. Any comedian that is actually funny generally moves to England because there is nothing for them over here

I tell a lie, the David O Doherty show was good

WindSock · 13-11-2009 02:28PM

In fairness, I don't blame Irish comedians for shipping off to England (not just for the cash). All they get here is unappreciated constant negative criticism from the Irish. There is no pride, nothing but constant constant bitching. How can anyone expect to soar here, I don't know.
I didn't like 'that fat Cork bint' on Naked Camera. I did happen to enjoy the Fancy Vittles show. I imagine it won't get another series, or David O Doherty because of the constant droning. Which is a shame, as I considered them both to be very 'Irish' in the everyday conversational sense.
If we stopped whinging for a moment, we might actually encourage more funny people to come forward and flourish. But in the meantime, go back to American and British comedy. They fortunatley have their own unique brands. We can't do their comedy very well. At least let us try and do our own.

--Kaiser-- · 13-11-2009 02:37PM

Having watched 'The Panel' last night I don't see how it could degenerate further

Denerick · 13-11-2009 02:45PM

Terry wrote: »

Oh the shame of it all.

OP, if you don't like Ireland, then there is always the option of moving somewhere else.
I hear the American economy has picked up.

Comedy is subjective.

Ah yes, the whole redneck 'If you don't like it then you can just geeeeet out' routine (Inspired by South Park, incidentally)

evercloserunion · 13-11-2009 03:57PM

Never knew Graham Linehan was Irish. If so then that definitely shows up the OP. IT Crowd anyone?

Denerick · 13-11-2009 04:13PM

evercloserunion wrote: »

Never knew Graham Linehan was Irish. If so then that definitely shows up the OP. IT Crowd anyone?

Wow, so we have what, three good comedians? (And Linehan is a writer first and foremost) Hardly shows me up now does it. All you have to do is have a look at mainstream Irish comedy and its enough to make you sick.

The progressive degeneration of Irish Comedy

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