11th Hour of the 11th Day of the 11th Month

WindSock · 11-11-2009 12:00PM #1

Are you observing a minutes silence?

Schism · 11-11-2009 12:01PM

Nope, it's my birthday! everybody shout

rolion · 11-11-2009 12:01PM

Done...

Notorious · 11-11-2009 12:01PM

I just did

Wossack · 11-11-2009 12:01PM

09? come back in 2 years :P

WindSock · 11-11-2009 12:03PM

Wossack wrote: »

09? come back in 2 years :P

Why?

biko · 11-11-2009 12:04PM

WindSock wrote: »

Are you observing a minutes silence?

For whom?

Edit, googled it.
No I don't

GavRedKing · 11-11-2009 12:08PM

I didnt because I forgot, makes no difference TBH.

Saibh · 11-11-2009 12:10PM

Who will manage to post at the 11th minute of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month...

WindSock · 11-11-2009 12:11PM

Magnus wrote: »

For whom?

Googled it too. Armistace day, the end of WW1.

I don't know. Do we do it here? Is that what is supposed to happen, a minutes silence?

I just thought it was pretty neat that I managed to post the thread at the right time.

Soby · 11-11-2009 12:11PM

Boom....me..whos the silence for?
*edit*..Ah right..maybe a typing silence?..no posts for a minute:P

WindSock · 11-11-2009 12:11PM

Schism wrote: »

Nope, it's my birthday! everybody shout

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :cool:

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2009 12:18PM

Two minutes of silence in the UK. A lot of companies build it into the working day and it is often announced over PA systems. Pretty much everyone observes it.

WindSock · 11-11-2009 12:21PM

Saibh wrote: »

Who will manage to post at the 11th minute of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month...

Me and Soby

I wonder who got the 11th second?

WindSock · 11-11-2009 12:22PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Two minutes of silence in the UK. A lot of companies build it into the working day and it is often announced over PA systems. Pretty much everyone observes it.

Yeah I don't think even a 1 minutes silence is observed here. That only happens when something big happens in the present day. As far as I know.
Shame that we don't commemorate or veterans really.

Davidius · 11-11-2009 12:37PM

Nobody gives me a minute's silence, they'll get there's when I get mine!

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2009 12:46PM

WindSock wrote: »

Yeah I don't think even a 1 minutes silence is observed here. That only happens when something big happens in the present day. As far as I know.
Shame that we don't commemorate or veterans really.

Ian Hislop did a programme the other night where he talked about Non British soldiers who died in the great war. he mentioned Thomas Kettle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kettle

Apparently his memorial wasn't unveiled until 30 years after his death and then it was just put there without ceremony. There is no mention that he died in France, only the place of his death, because they didn't want to highlight the fact he died fighting for Britain in the Great War.

Lux23 · 11-11-2009 01:45PM

No we don't because Irish people only like to commemorate the deaths of other Irish people, we don't much care what goes on else where.

That Thomas Kettle story so shameful, something seriously wrong with that kind of viewpoint.

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2009 01:51PM

Lux23 wrote: »

No we don't because Irish people only like to commemorate the deaths of other Irish people, we don't much care what goes on else where.

That Thomas Kettle story so shameful, something seriously wrong with that kind of viewpoint.

sorry, did I miss something, did no Irish people die in the first world war then?

Turd Ferguson · 11-11-2009 01:58PM

Yo WindSock, I'm real happy for you and I'mma let you finish....but I had one of the best time/date based threads of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Davidius · 11-11-2009 02:09PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

sorry, did I miss something, did no Irish people die in the first world war then?

Course they did but sure we have a day for them.

WindSock · 11-11-2009 02:13PM

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

Yo WindSock, I'm real happy for you and I'mma let you finish....but I had one of the best time/date based threads of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Jackass

General Zod · 11-11-2009 02:20PM

the mail reason I choose not to observe it is that the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month was chosen as a symbolic gesture. if they had sent out the order to cease as soon as it was agreed there'd be a few less people killed.

It's the perfect exqmple of the stupidity that led to so many people killed.

The news was quickly given to the armies during the morning of 11 November, but even after hearing that the armistice was due to start at 11:00, intense warfare continued right until the last minute. Many artillery units continued to fire on German targets to avoid having to haul away their spare ammunition. The Allies also wished to ensure that should fighting re-start, they would be in the most favourable position. Consequently there were 10,944 casualties of which 2,738 men died on the last day of the war.[4]
Augustin Trébuchon was the last Frenchman to die when he was shot on his way to tell fellow soldiers that hot soup would be served after the ceasefire. He was killed at 10:45 am. The last British soldier to die, George Edwin Ellison of the 5th Royal Irish Lancers, was killed earlier that morning at around 9:30 am while scouting on the outskirts of Mons, Belgium. The final Canadian soldier to die, Private George Lawrence Price, was killed just two minutes before the armistice to the north of Mons, in an allied trench at 10:58am to be recognized as one of the last killed with a monument to his name. And finally, American Henry Gunther is generally recognized as the last soldier killed in action in World War I. He was killed 60 seconds before the armistice came into force while charging astonished German troops who were aware the Armistice was nearly upon them.[5][6]
The last reported German casualty occurred after the 11 a.m. armistice. A Leutnant Tomas, in the Meuse-Argonne sector, went to inform approaching American soldiers that he and his men would be vacating houses that they had been using as billets. However, he was shot by soldiers who had not been told about the ceasefire.

Dáibhí · 11-11-2009 02:40PM

WindSock wrote: »

Yeah I don't think even a 1 minutes silence is observed here. ...Shame that we don't commemorate or veterans really.

...Here we go again ....

We, the Irish, do commemorate our veterans, namely the people who fought for this country. If you want to celebrate those who fight for Britain and her monarch, well it isn't really difficult to find the country where that particular brand of nationalist glorification of violence goes on.

IsMiseConor · 11-11-2009 02:40PM

Schism wrote: »

Nope, it's my birthday! everybody shout

It's my birthday too!

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2009 02:41PM

General Zod wrote: »

the mail reason I choose not to observe it is that the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month was chosen as a symbolic gesture. if they had sent out the order to cease as soon as it was agreed there'd be a few less people killed.

It's the perfect exqmple of the stupidity that led to so many people killed.

I thought the silence was to remember those who died, not the idiots who sent them to their death.

Lux23 · 11-11-2009 02:56PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

sorry, did I miss something, did no Irish people die in the first world war then?

Well not really they were British then. Think you misunderstood what i saw saying though.

General Zod · 11-11-2009 03:05PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I thought the silence was to remember those who died, not the idiots who sent them to their death.

I remember those who died in ways other than a minutes silence timed to be "memorable" which resulted in 2k more people being killed.

dasdog · 11-11-2009 03:26PM

One imperialist power starts expanding. Another retaliates and declares war on the Western Front of expansion. Millions die and war concludes resulting in the signing of the Treaty of Versaille. The world is still living with the consequences of this today.

Nationalism is a very dangerous trait some of us humans have. IMO a little education on the matter is far better way of paying respect to those who died than a rememberance organised by the same state(s) who sent people to walk into lines of machine gun fire.

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2009 03:45PM

dasdog wrote: »

One imperialist power starts expanding. Another retaliates and declares war on the Western Front of expansion. Millions die and war concludes resulting in the signing of the Treaty of Versaille. The world is still living with the consequences of this today.

and the winning imperialist power put so much blame and sanction on the losing one that the loser went and kicked it all off again 20 years later. Eventually though, the two settled their differences and formed the EU to help prevent it happening again. now the two of them have formed a new empire and are still hell bent on ruling Europe.

Fratton Fred · 11-11-2009 03:46PM

Dáibhí wrote: »

well it isn't really difficult to find the country where that particular brand of nationalist glorification of violence goes on.

Ireland?

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