The Virginia sniper..

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-11-2009 03:22PM #1

Is to be executed today, damn that was quick!.

I've mixed emotions on this tbh.

When I looked into the guys mental health issues', and considering he has been found to be suffering from Gulf War Syndrome & P.T.S.D. from his service in the US forces, I can't help but think he's been dealt a raw deal.

Sure he killed some people, but where was his mind during the process?.

'Yes' or 'No', I won't lose much sleep over it but I'd rather America didn't have the death penalty.

However I can understand the feelings of wanting some revenge too.

TouchingVirus · 10-11-2009 03:24PM

Marshall Damaged Bongo wrote: »

Is to be executed today, damn that was quick!.

I've mixed emotions on this tbh.

When I looked into the guys mental health issues', and considering he has been found to be suffering from Gulf War Syndrome & P.T.S.D. from his service in the US forces, I can't help but think he's been dealt a raw deal.

Sure he killed some people, but where was his mind during the process?.

'Yes' or 'No', I won't lose much sleep over it but I'd rather America didn't have the death penalty.

However I can understand the feelings of wanting something avenged.

I saw this on Teletext last night, 11th hour appeal over his mental health or something failed.

I just remember the terror he caused, nearly every day you'd hear about somebody being shot dead, or a near miss or something.

I don't agree with the death penalty though and would also rather the US didn't have it.

Trekker09 · 10-11-2009 03:26PM

While my sympathy is a little thin for this guy, there certainly is a case to be answered as far as treatment for Vets is concerned. I certainly don't beleive in the death penalty, not so much on moral grounds, but more on the uneasiness of knowing if you are executing the right person.

Blazer · 10-11-2009 03:27PM

Personally I hope the fúcker fries in hell and spends an eternity there.
Same with any other person who murders/rapes/child molesters etc.
A cushy few years in a cell is no sense of justice for any of those scum.

CreepingDeath · 10-11-2009 03:28PM

I bet he was given a rough time by some small town sheriff, who drew "first blood" in this situation.

wes · 10-11-2009 03:28PM

I actually support the death penalty, but not in the case of a mentally ill individual. If the guy is not of sound mind, then he should not be executed, but rather imprisioned for the rest of his life, as he is clearly a danger to others.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-11-2009 03:29PM

Trekker09 wrote: »

While my sympathy is a little thin for this guy, there certainly is a case to be answered as far as treatment for Vets is concerned. I certainly don't beleive in the death penalty, not so much on moral grounds, but more on the uneasiness of knowing if you are executing the right person.

And considering this execution is to be done the day before Veterans Day too!.

Joey the lips · 10-11-2009 03:29PM

Is this a discussion on the death penality? I prefere a discussion on how easy it is to get guns in america.

I dont agree with the death penality but having said that Kill my children and I would want you dead! Yes I might be no better, thats why I think a discussion on the availability of guns makes more sense.

Trekker09 · 10-11-2009 03:29PM

Berkut wrote: »

Personally I hope the fúcker fries in hell and spends an eternity there.
Same with any other person who murders/rapes/child molesters etc.
A cushy few years in a cell is no sense of justice for any of those scum.

Ok, what do you do when the person is innocent?

keefg · 10-11-2009 03:31PM

Berkut wrote: »

Personally I hope the fúcker fries in hell and spends an eternity there.
Same with any other person who murders/rapes/child molesters etc.
A cushy few years in a cell is no sense of justice for any of those scum.

Totally agree, fcuk him.

This wasn't the rash act of some ex soldier suffering the affects of PTSD. It was a pre-meditated and carefully planned action of a ruthless murderer who just did it for the ransom he was demanding.

mikemac · 10-11-2009 03:32PM

That was quick, don't these cases sometimes take over 10 years

But I suppose when an FBI officer gets shot there is no way the system will spare you, rightly or wrongly

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-11-2009 03:33PM

keefg wrote: »

Totally agree, fcuk him.

This wasn't the rash act of some ex soldier suffering the affects of PTSD. It was a pre-meditated and carefully planned action of a ruthless murderer who just did it for the ransom he was demanding.

And you know something about P.T.S.D. then do you?.

keefg · 10-11-2009 03:34PM

Marshall Damaged Bongo wrote: »

And you know something about P.T.S.D. then do you?.

Maybe I do.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-11-2009 03:36PM

keefg wrote: »

Maybe I do.

To expand on my question, 'from your war experiences?.

ronbyrne2005 · 10-11-2009 03:38PM

Marshall Damaged Bongo wrote: »

And you know something about P.T.S.D. then do you?.

Do you? Or just supporting him cos his ex army too? I know PTCD is tough but it doesnt stop you knowing right from wrong and wouldnt affect premeditated murder.

PeakOutput · 10-11-2009 03:45PM

i do support the death penalty i think ptsd is no excuse and while im sure i know very little about it i cant think of ANYTHING that excuses him from punishment for a series of premeditated serial killings

am i remembering correctly when i say his son helped him with these killings? any idea whats happening with him?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-11-2009 03:45PM

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

Do you?

Yes I do.

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

Or just supporting him cos his ex army too?

Hitler was ex-army too, you won't see me goose stepping down to An Bord Gas anytime soon.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 10-11-2009 03:47PM

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

Do you? Or just supporting him cos his ex army too?

He never said he was supporting him, he was just questioning the image of the guy being a mere ruthless psychopath.

wudangclan · 10-11-2009 03:50PM

Marshall Damaged Bongo wrote: »

Is to be executed today, damn that was quick!.

I've mixed emotions on this tbh.

When I looked into the guys mental health issues', and considering he has been found to be suffering from Gulf War Syndrome & P.T.S.D. from his service in the US forces, I can't help but think he's been dealt a raw deal.

Sure he killed some people, but where was his mind during the process?.

'Yes' or 'No', I won't lose much sleep over it but I'd rather America didn't have the death penalty.

However I can understand the feelings of wanting some revenge too.

dunno all the ins and outs of the case but it seems what he did was very calculated and with a fair degree of thought behind it,it's not like he went postal (like the dude in texas this week) so i don't think ptsd is a valid defence in this case.
i still wouldn't agree with the death penalty in this case,though.

metaoblivia · 10-11-2009 03:53PM

PeakOutput wrote: »

i do support the death penalty i think ptsd is no excuse and while im sure i know very little about it i cant think of ANYTHING that excuses him from punishment for a series of premeditated serial killings

am i remembering correctly when i say his son helped him with these killings? any idea whats happening with him?

Lee Boyd Malvo is serving consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole.

My name is URL · 10-11-2009 03:54PM

I don't think any ex-soldier should be sentenced to death tbh, it's the state that instilled the capacity to kill in him, or at least nurtured whatever natural tendencies he had

they should deal with it, if it means locking him up in a military prison for the rest of his life then so be it

Pyr0 · 10-11-2009 03:54PM

Life is 25 years in the states, correct ? Or is it actually for life ?

Pighead · 10-11-2009 03:56PM

Pighead's in support of the death penalty but it shouldn't be televised. Showing Gary Glitter getting hung last night was a disgrace. No need for it at all.

metaoblivia · 10-11-2009 03:58PM

Pyr0 wrote: »

Life is 25 years in the states, correct ? Or is it actually for life ?

He'll never be released from prison.

Blazer · 10-11-2009 03:58PM

Trekker09 wrote: »

Ok, what do you do when the person is innocent?

He's not...He's 100% guilty on this.
I've no qualms about killing guilty people.

Degsy · 10-11-2009 03:59PM

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead's in support of the death penalty but it shouldn't be televised. Showing Gary Glitter getting hung last night was a disgrace. No need for it at all.

Should Degsy ever climb up a water tower with a rifle one day,pighead would do well to stay out of his sights!

PeakOutput · 10-11-2009 03:59PM

Pyr0 wrote: »

Life is 25 years in the states, correct ? Or is it actually for life ?

pretty sure life without parole in the states means you will not see the outside of a prison again and if im wrong they make far better use of consecutive sentences than we do to affectively ensure people will never be free again

old boy · 10-11-2009 04:01PM

i was there during all that, scary schit for some, the guy was lying down in the back of a van, with a hole in the back door so he could aim and fire, the son was the driver, he caused a lot of people a lot of grief, how come all them guys have an excuse, lots of people have the excuses but they do not do evil, he is no loss.

topper75 · 10-11-2009 04:01PM

Love all you guys. But you'll forgive me this one occasion if I hold the relatives of the dead out in front of you when it comes to opinions on what should be done with him.

The USA trained a lot of people to kill as soldiers. But they didn't go and do what this bitter guy did! He terrorised people until he was caught.

The mental health appeal was dismissed. The chances of innocence are too remote if you followed the case.

Why should he be allowed to live? Human rights can be forfeited I think.

Good drama on Channel 4 last night with an alternative present day Britain seeking to execute Paul Gadd for paedophile offences. Made you think at least.

I think Peter Sutcliffe should have been strung up myself.

AckwelFoley · 10-11-2009 04:02PM

Marshall Damaged Bongo wrote: »

Is to be executed today, damn that was quick!.

I've mixed emotions on this tbh.

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I dont.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 10-11-2009 04:04PM

Degsy wrote: »

Should Degsy ever climb up a water tower with a rifle one day,pighead would do well to stay out of his sights!

Less of that please, Degsy.

The Virginia sniper..

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