Protest over public sector pay

baaaa · 09-11-2009 03:03AM #1

Just throwing it out there,anybody fancy protesting about the excessive rates of public sector pay and their refusal to take the neccessary cuts?
The unemployed should be marching,it's they who will suffer the cuts if the public sector won't climb down(assuming the country is still running).

TestTransmission · 09-11-2009 03:07AM

To the batmobile

hussey · 09-11-2009 03:10AM

I like cake

humberklog · 09-11-2009 03:11AM

P.O.P.S.?

Doc · 09-11-2009 03:13AM

baaaa wrote: »

Just throwing it out there,anybody fancy protesting about the excessive rates of public sector pay and their refusal to take the neccessary cuts?
The unemployed should be marching,it's they who will suffer the cuts if the public sector won't climb down(assuming the country is still running).

No.

Pygmalion · 09-11-2009 03:20AM

Public Sector vs. Dole Scroungers.

Who does AH despise more?

baaaa · 09-11-2009 03:21AM

there may have been a better time and place to post this

TestTransmission · 09-11-2009 03:23AM

Pygmalion wrote: »

Public Sector vs. Dole Scroungers.

Who does AH despise more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksmb6iwPZYo

baaaa · 09-11-2009 03:29AM

I'm not so sure dole scroungers is appropriate these days.Most of these poor unfortunates are newly unemployed and it's not like there's any jobs.
I'm glad I don't say things like that,shows I'm smart.

Pygmalion · 09-11-2009 03:33AM

baaaa wrote: »

I'm not so sure dole scroungers is appropriate these days.Most of these poor unfortunates are newly unemployed and it's not like there's any jobs.
I'm glad I don't say things like that,shows I'm smart.

Does that count as calling me stupid, if so I call personal attack.
But you're right, blaming everything on the public sector is the smart thing to do, sure they're all millionaires with holiday homes, butlers and a fine selection of BMWs.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 03:42AM

Pygmalion wrote: »

But you're right, blaming everything on the public sector is the smart thing to do, sure they're all millionaires with holiday homes, butlers and a fine selection of BMWs.

This is about the level of response I expected,a prime example of public sector thinking,wrong,just wrong.
Nobody said ye were millonaires,that's such a silly argument.
I'll make it simple;
The public sector did NOT cause this problem but they will prevent it from being solved if they're let.

GLaDOS · 09-11-2009 03:46AM

My dad works in the public sector and is sick of being told he hasnt taken a pay cut, he has, called the pension levy

Yellowsubmarine · 09-11-2009 03:48AM

hussey wrote: »

I like cake

I LOVE cake!

hoody · 09-11-2009 03:49AM

baaaa wrote: »

The public sector did NOT cause this problem

:eek:

Pygmalion · 09-11-2009 03:50AM

baaaa wrote: »

This is about the level of response I expected,a prime example of public sector thinking,wrong,just wrong.
Nobody said ye were millonaires,that's such a silly argument.

I'm unemployed, but am related to more than one person in the public sector, none of them have it that good, and all of them have seen a reduction in their take-home pay at the end of the week in one way or another.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 03:52AM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

My dad works in the public sector and is sick of being told he hasnt taken a pay cut, he has, called the pension levy

Not trying to be smart but does he offer any other suggestions as to where to get the 20+ billion from?
I ask this cause I've yet to meet someone of this disposition who has solutions besides "not me,sure I only earn x"

Doc · 09-11-2009 03:55AM

baaaa wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but does he offer any other suggestions as to where to get the 20+ billion from?
I ask this cause I've yet to meet someone of this disposition who has solutions besides "not me,sure I only earn x"

How about getting some of it back of the Fucking banks?

Pygmalion · 09-11-2009 03:55AM

baaaa wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but does he offer any other suggestions as to where to get the 20+ billion from?

I think the point was that despite all the "BAWW PUBLIC SECTOR ARE REFUSING TO TAKE PAY CUTS" going on, almost all of them have gotten at least one considerable decrease in their take-home pay, just that everyone forgot all about them a week later and went back to insisting they take another one.
Not that he knows the perfect way to solve the problem while making everyone happy.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 03:56AM

Pygmalion wrote: »

I'm unemployed, but am related to more than one person in the public sector, none of them have it that good, and all of them have seen a reduction in their take-home pay at the end of the week in one way or another.

I completely acknowledge that some may not have it that good and that they have taken cuts already.
These facts however are completely 100% irrelevant.
What is relevant is that the country is rapidly going bankrupt.

Pygmalion · 09-11-2009 03:59AM

baaaa wrote: »

I completely acknowledge that some may not have it that good and that they have taken cuts already.
These facts however are completely 100% irrelevant.
What is relevant is that the country is rapidly going bankrupt.

Your original post

baaaa wrote: »

Just throwing it out there,anybody fancy protesting about the excessive rates of public sector pay and their refusal to take the neccessary cuts?
The unemployed should be marching,it's they who will suffer the cuts if the public sector won't climb down(assuming the country is still running).

So yes, the fact that they don't have it that good and have already taken cuts IS relevant to this thread.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 04:05AM

Pygmalion wrote: »

I think the point was that despite all the "BAWW PUBLIC SECTOR ARE REFUSING TO TAKE PAY CUTS" going on, almost all of them have gotten at least one considerable decrease in their take-home pay, just that everyone forgot all about them a week later and went back to insisting they take another one.
Not that he knows the perfect way to solve the problem while making everyone happy.

Yeah I hear this theory "but we took a pay cut already" all the time from the public sector.It would be funny if it wasn't so serious,I wonder who told them that one pay cut is all they must suffer?
It's soooo dumb,where is the logic?Why just one pay cut?

Doc · 09-11-2009 04:09AM

baaaa wrote: »

Yeah I hear this theory "but we took a pay cut already" all the time from the public sector.It would be funny if it wasn't so serious,I wonder who told them that one pay cut is all they must suffer?
It's soooo dumb,where is the logic?Why just one pay cut?

So at what point will you be happy should they not be paid at all?

wandatowell · 09-11-2009 04:11AM

baaaa wrote: »

Why just one pay cut?

cos one should have been enough,

hoody · 09-11-2009 04:12AM

The Government are looking for around €4 billion in cuts, of which they want €1.3 billion to come from public sector pay cuts & reform. So even if the proposed cuts come into the public sector, they're still €2.7 billion short. So fix that.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 04:14AM

Doc wrote: »

So at what point will you be happy should they not be paid at all?

Well firstly the banks are bust so you're previous suggestion of getting the money back off them is not good.
And I'm just after realising that this question is the same so I'm not gonna bother.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 04:15AM

wandatowell wrote: »

cos one should have been enough,

Why?

CCCP^ · 09-11-2009 04:15AM

Why is the Public Sector only protesting when it looks like their pay will be cut?

Pygmalion · 09-11-2009 04:16AM

baaaa wrote: »

Yeah I hear this theory "but we took a pay cut already" all the time from the public sector.It would be funny if it wasn't so serious,I wonder who told them that one pay cut is all they must suffer?
It's soooo dumb,where is the logic?Why just one pay cut?

Perhaps you're right, perhaps they do need to take another, but doesn't excuse everyone bitching to them about how they don't care about the country and refused to take a pay cut after they've already taken one.

If you'd just taken a pay cut a couple of months back and seriously cut down on your spending, and then got told by someone that your pay is excessive and that you were "refusing" to take a pay cut you wouldn't like it at all, nor would most of the people making these claims about the public sector, and it's worse when the people bitching about the public sector are fairly well off (which often seems to be the case).
Thing is, I imagine, due to how wide-reaching the public sector is, almost everyone has a friend or relative working in it, who probably isn't rich or even any better off than most.
But when they talk about the big evil public sector it never seems to be Joe down the street they talk about, but the tens of thousands of unnamed guys on paid sick leave playing poker in the bahamas.

baaaa · 09-11-2009 04:16AM

hoody wrote: »

The Government are looking for around €4 billion in cuts, of which they want €1.3 billion to come from public sector pay cuts & reform. So even if the proposed cuts come into the public sector, they're still €2.7 billion short. So fix that.

No

baaaa · 09-11-2009 04:17AM

Pygmalion wrote: »

Perhaps you're right, perhaps they do need to take another, but doesn't excuse everyone bitching to them about how they don't care about the country and refused to take a pay cut after they've already taken one.

If you'd just taken a pay cut a couple of months back and seriously cut down on your spending, and then got told by someone that your pay is excessive and that you were "refusing" to take a pay cut you wouldn't like it at all, nor would most of the people making these claims about the public sector.
Thing is, I imagine, due to how wide-reaching the public sector is, almost everyone has a friend or relative working in it, who probably isn't rich or even any better off than most.
But when they talk about the big evil public sector it never seems to be Joe down the street they talk about, but the tens of thousands of unnamed guys on paid sick leave playing poker in the bahamas.

What?whatever,it is joe down the street.

hoody · 09-11-2009 04:19AM

baaaa wrote: »

No

Thought not.

Protest over public sector pay

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