What are you prepared to give to get the country out of this mess?

darkman2 · 08-11-2009 10:37PM #1

I see, I see, I see lots of people complaining, moaning and showing plenty of begrudgery in recent weeks around what has to be done and who should pay. I think we all have to pay something. Everyone, the rich, the lowest earners, and those on welfare included to save the country from collapse. Without going into arguments about who is responsible....blah blah blah what are you prepared to take so the country gets back on it's feet? Everyone has to give something. A tax hike? A pay cut? A wage freeze?

Basically how much pain are you willing to take for the good of the country? (if it means in 5 years time we are out of the mess and can rebuild the economy)

jumpguy · 08-11-2009 10:38PM

However much it costs to get a flight outta here tbh.

Dartz · 08-11-2009 10:40PM

**** all. I'll take.

Mmcd · 08-11-2009 10:40PM

Three fiddy!

darkman2 · 08-11-2009 10:41PM

I would like to further qualify the OP by saying no one has a choice. Your getting raped either way on budget day.

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 08-11-2009 10:43PM

Il give someone a sniper rifle and 30 round of ammo............maybe that will sort out our "leaders"...

... a change in Government would be a start...

...or IF our "leaders" took a substantial 50-60% pay cut and worked for us for a change!

To The North · 08-11-2009 10:43PM

jumpguy wrote: »

However much it costs to get a flight outta here tbh.

i'm with you i've been thinking more and more lately.

at most i'd be willing to take a pay freeze, although i'm still finding it hard to grasp why i & lots of others who didn't get greedy in the good times should have to pay for the sins of those who did (whoever they are, i won't get into blame or arguments about this like you asked :pac:). i know the country needs to be rebuilt for the good of everyone but speaking honestly the begrudger inside me doesn't think it's very fair & i should just fly out of here and leave them in the mess they made.

gurramok · 08-11-2009 10:44PM

I'm on a wage freeze for a year now. Have a pension which is not worth much and don't have the guaranteed security of a job nor do I have the privilege of having a Friday afternoon off to walk the streets.

So yeh, you can guess which sector i'm in so its about time another certain sector contributed their share of pain as after all their employer is broke

minidazzler · 08-11-2009 10:44PM

benwavner wrote: »

Il give someone a sniper rifle and 30 round of ammo............maybe that will sort out our "leaders"...

... a change in Government would be a start...

...or IF our "leaders" took a substantial 50-60% pay cut and worked for us for a change!

PM sent.

My name is URL · 08-11-2009 10:45PM

Why should Joe Soap endure any more pain while the upper enchalant are living it up on our money?

I'm willing to go to prison and get bum raped if it means we can get rid of those cnuts

To The North · 08-11-2009 10:45PM

Mmcd wrote: »

Three fiddy!

i can't give a thumbs up/thanks yet, but this made me laugh!

i ain’t giving you no tree fiddy you goddamn loch ness monster, get your own goddamn money!

Abi · 08-11-2009 10:46PM

darkman2 wrote: »

Without going into arguments about who is responsible....blah blah blah what are you prepared to take so the country gets back on it's feet? Everyone has to give something. A tax hike? A pay cut? A wage freeze?

Nothing, you've just cut out a very large point.

Seloth · 08-11-2009 10:47PM

Irish people are always complaining,Were a nation of moaners!

So even if things are good or bad we'll still bitc:D

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 08-11-2009 10:47PM

I am happy with what I have

JMSE · 08-11-2009 10:48PM

I want the army to move in, take over Leinster House, lock the whole lot of them up in the Curragh, and lets start again, twasnt for this that brave people died 90 years ago

PureTallent · 08-11-2009 10:48PM

What would I be prepared to take so the country gets back on its feet?
Id be prepared to see the NAMA money getting spent on something actually worthwhile, like renewable energy sources. Maybe we could actually try and use the ridiculous amount of wind we have to create jobs, become energy independant and maybe actually in time export the energy. Id be prepared to see the money spent on something with long term gains for all rather than short term gains for the property developers and bankers who got us in this mess along with the puppet government.

Karoma · 08-11-2009 10:49PM

darkman2 wrote: »

A tax hike? A pay cut? A wage freeze?

Tax hike: Already done, along with most of the fools still working in this country.
A wage freeze: Done. Didn't really have a choice. Nice of my company to make that decision for me. True (multi-million-in-profits-making-despite-this-recession) patriots so they are.

What are you willing to do, OP?

darkman2 · 08-11-2009 10:49PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Why should Joe Soap endure any more pain while the upper enchalant are living it up on our money?

Presumably because the pain now is nothing compared to the pain that everyone will go through should the country sink and become unstable. Imagine one day soon there could well be no money to pay for anything. The country is in such trouble now that it could just fail. I agree it is not fair but that is the way it is. Not like there is many rich people left anyway!

R0ot · 08-11-2009 10:51PM

My right nut.

Jako8 · 08-11-2009 10:52PM

I'm prepared to give some constructive* criticism.

*criticism may not be constructive but abusive.

darkman2 · 08-11-2009 10:53PM

Karoma wrote: »

What are you willing to do, OP?

Well, I would not go so far as to give up my Trophy house :P but would not mind paying a few percentage points more in tax - but NOT to keep public servants in work. That is not the idea. Id want to see a good number of them sacked tbh. They all have to take pay cuts aswell. Marching just makes private sector wealth creating majority angry esspecially about civil servant's secure, pensionable, conditions of employment which most don't have. If I, or you, or other private sector people take a pay cut then so should they.

That is the basis upon which I am prepared to contribute anyway.

To The North · 08-11-2009 10:53PM

R0ot wrote: »

My right nut.

now that's dedication to your country!

if someone would donate a left one perhaps we could fix brian cowen up with a pair so he'd stand up to those bankers

old boy · 08-11-2009 10:56PM

whatever lenihan b. gives up.

Aidric · 08-11-2009 10:58PM

I was made redundant last week so I think I've given up enough already.

darkman2 · 08-11-2009 10:58PM

old boy wrote: »

whatever lenihan b. gives up.

There is a rumour they will take a massive paycut....just a rumour mind...

darkman2 · 08-11-2009 10:59PM

Aidric wrote: »

I was made redundant last week so I think I've given up enough already.

Sorry to hear that. But if a public sector poster came on and said this I would only then believe we were on our way to fixing the situation.

DeCoR18 · 08-11-2009 11:01PM

Those immigints a a ticket back home :mad::eek:

Aidric · 08-11-2009 11:01PM

darkman2 wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. But if a public sector poster came on and said this I would only then believe we were on our way to fixing the situation.

I wasn't public sector.

My name is URL · 08-11-2009 11:01PM

darkman2 wrote: »

Presumably because the pain now is nothing compared to the pain that everyone will go through should the country sink and become unstable. Imagine one day soon there could well be no money to pay for anything. The country is in such trouble now that it could just fail. I agree it is not fair but that is the way it is. Not like there is many rich people left anyway!

I'm not even talking about the rich people, sure those poor fcukers are on the cusp of the shitstorm that we're facing atm, with higher taxes and lower wealth

it's the whores in charge that are living it up, those so worried about 'us' (:rolleyes:) that they're willing to financially cripple a sizable proportion of society in order to allow others to keep on borrowing

To The North · 08-11-2009 11:03PM

darkman2 wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. But if a public sector poster came on and said this I would only then believe we were on our way to fixing the situation.

plenty of public servants have already lost jobs through their contracts not being renewed.

junkyard · 08-11-2009 11:05PM

I'm out of here, I'm not paying off NAMA for the next 30 years or so and listening to some other clown from the EU during the week we should be taxed more and paid less. F**k that, to keep over-payed, 3 working days a week TD's and ministers in a job? I don't think so, this place is as corrupt as hell now. Another thing, why aren't the protest marchs targeting the Bankers as much as the private sector? I just don't get that, it was the bankers who f**ked up big time and are still getting bonuses for that. If this place was France they'd be dragging bankers and politicans through the streets about now but as a friend of mine said recently "We'd have had a revolution in this country years ago if we could get someone else to do it for us". How true, so much for the fighting Irish.:rolleyes:

What are you prepared to give to get the country out of this mess?

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