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**WHACK** Take that **SMACK**
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Just realeased as NEWS FLASH on RTE - the raiders were Biffo, Hungry Jaws Minister O'Donoghue & mathematician minister Brian Lenihan - still trying to rob the public eh....but we got u this time
Well done to Mr Myagi in the jewellers, but not always such a wise option, just when its a happy ending like today!0 -
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The problem is with "reasonable force" in ireland is it's not you who decides, It's a judge sitting on his pretty bench and holding a little gavel that decides if what you did was reasonable.It's possible, but very very unlikely. The fact that the man went in to rob the owners property and grabbed his wife around the neck would give him two counts to use force. For all we know, the man was being restrained, acted out violently and cracked his skull off the ground.
Say for instance once the man was disarmed and on the ground, if cctv catches the shop owner hitting the man on the ground a judge could call that excessive force.
Also the pedestrian who got the fleeing thief could be done for assault as the thief was retreating, thus no longer a danger.
Thus proving that Irish law is ****e and sometimes texas can be right.0 -
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Magdalena Jealous Vial wrote: »Guaranteed a civil case will be brought against the shop owner
there's money to be had0 -
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Magdalena Jealous Vial wrote: »Guaranteed a civil case will be brought against the shop owner
Not a hope, robber would be torn to pieces by the public, people have had enough of being robbed by scum and are willing to make a stand nowadays, enough is enough. Our government should take note too, you can only keep robbing people to a point, more and more people are willing to make a stand now.0 -
FFS. My father who never threw a punch in his life ended up rolling around on the floor boxing the head off an attempted robber. I used an newsworthy piece of sporting equipment I happened to have at my feet to send a gun toting(turned out to be a starting pistol) thug and his mate running after I knocked the gun into my fathers hands (he's gone on to become a MR Big and suspected multiple murderer since then). I've wrestled with a druggy who had a knife to my brothers throat during an attempted robbery. All 'Attempted' Robberies mind.
Do I get public adulation? My arse. Stories never made it further than page 10 of the local rag. Instead I have to make myself look like an attention whore on boards. FFS
The good that came of those events was that I found out what I was made of. I have never been in a fight in my life. I worried that the adrenaline hit I used to get when 3 or 4 13yo scangers came in was a bad sign. ie. Jaysus, if these little scrotes get me all edgy, I'll be a gibbering wreck if anything serious ever happened. Well turned out when it came to it, it was Fight not Flight and rather than the resulting adrenaline hit turning my legs to jelly it made me capable of things I thought I wasn't capable of. Pretty happy with my mental state after these events too. ie. No post traumatic stress which was a relief. We soft spoken, wouldn't hurt a fly lads were relieved that we were able to get over it within minutes with a Holy F#%$ and a laugh. Even my bro who had the knife to his throat who is a more sensitive guy than even me and who I thought might take it badly was smiling and laughing with the customers 90 seconds later... Yeah, the customers who walked in the door literally within seconds of the attempt robbery, stepped over the shelves that had been knocked all over the floor in the struggle and without any comment on what may have happened, asked....."A 4 euro quickpick please". WTF like!!! Talk about being in their own little world!! 0 -
Well done that man.
And the other people who assisted.
Now they need to change the law so that there should never even be a question of someone like that shop keeper being charged.
I think the law has some stupid line that " If you have a chance to retreat and dont this will be considered aganist you".
Personally i think that unless it is a very literal "It was them or me" anything short of intentionally killing them is relative fair game.
If you break in to someone elses place to harm or steal you forfeit your rights.
Actually the requirement to retreat only applies if you are out in the street or something like that. If you are in your own property and presumably work place too then there is no requirement to retreat.
I don't understand the whole criticism of the self defence laws. Even some people saying they hope the robber dies, and others replying saying they hope he doesn't so the owner won't get in trouble. FFS. Since when is there, or should there be, a death penalty for robbery?!?! And the fact that no trigger was ever pulled by any of the three robbers shows that they probably never had any intent to use their weapons.
Yes they clearly intended to rob some stuff... but lets face it, a Jewellers set up in the middle of town most likely had insurance and would have lost very little financially from the robbery (obv this means the insurance company would have lost a bit but they probably wouldn't miss it all that much).
If the owner used excessive force against the criminals then 100% he should be prosecuted. It's great (or stupid) to stand up to scumbags like that but why should anyone except an inpartial court decide what the criminal's punishment is? We have a justice system for a reason. And we also have no punishments that involve beatings for a reason. If all the force he used was necessary to stop the robbery and protect his wife then good. But if he had the robber well under control and continued to inflict serious injuries on the guy then he is breaking the law, and should be prosecuted.Do I get public adulation? My arse. Stories never made it further than page 10 of the local rag. Instead I have to make myself look like an attention whore on boards. FFS
In my opinion you are an attention whore. You should keep your good deeds to yourself instead of running to boast about them on an internet forum0 -
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