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Too stupid to get married or have a baby

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 924 ✭✭✭Elliemental


    Have I missed something here?

    The article states she is 24?

    I`m sorry, I thought the guy was 24 and the girl was 17?:o


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I`m sorry, I thought the guy was 24 and the girl was 17?:o

    no it's not just you, it's been said a few times throughout the thread which is why I'm wondering if the telegraph report is wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    I`m sorry, I thought the guy was 24 and the girl was 17?:o

    There is two different stories linked in the first post - the couple who wanted to get married are 17 and 25 are expecting their first child.

    The other story relates to a girl whose child is now age 3


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Saibh wrote: »
    There is two different stories linked in the first post - the couple who wanted to get married are 17 and 25 are expecting their first child.

    The other story relates to a girl whose child is now age 3

    I never even copped that! thanks for clearing that up :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 924 ✭✭✭Elliemental


    Oh dear, now i`m completely confused. Mildly confused I can cope with, I`m used to it. Now i`ll have to go and lie down in softly lit room.:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭WeWillBeReborn


    Selective breeding?

    Are Scotland trying to create a master race?

    Do we have another Hitler-esque regime on the horizon? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1


    Oh dear, now i`m completely confused. Mildly confused I can cope with, I`m used to it. Now i`ll have to go and lie down in softly lit room.:confused:

    OK: to avoid confusion: Rachel Pullen is 24, from Nottingham and single. Her child was taken away at 6 months because she was deemed unfit to care for her.

    Kerry Robertson is 17, from Scotland, pregnant and engaged. She was forbidden to marry and told her baby would be taken away an hour after birth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭spadder


    I was only discussing tonight this with the Mrs.
    I was at the petrol station tonight, a ropey looking “mother” ahead of me in the queue, with her son, about 4 or 5 years. He kicks up a fuss over some toxic looking sweet thing at the counter.
    After much “discussion” she buys the kid 12 packs of the sh1t!
    “ dats to do ya for the fcukin weekend” she tells him.

    She bought her smokes and marches him out the shop, I was behind her and I heard her tell him “ I goin to fcukin batter ya”

    These people are not fit to look after a dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1


    a bit more info on the alleged 'forced adoptions' in the UK:

    http://www.forced-adoption.com/social-workers.asp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Maybe should shut her vag just to be on the safe side


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭marbar


    they were "steralising" women in parts of america up to the 60's that they didn't feel had the intelligence to warrent having a baby iirc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    All scum should be exterminated, regardless of education, class, race, wealth, intelligence, or age. Yes, age. Little scummers who you know are [EMAIL="bast@rds"]bast@rds[/EMAIL] already, and will only end up robbing old people and killing someone in a pub brawl, should be killed. Its for the good of all the people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Moomoo1 wrote: »
    yeah, there's a whold bloody long judgement available if you want to read it. http://www.familylawweek.co.uk/site.aspx?i=ed2355

    basically, the child had medical difficulties and was born at 27 weeks, and the social services decided that the mother didn't have the intelligence to care after it. The mother (as well as her relatives), understandably, got very upset and very angry, which hurt her case even further. Subsequently another review said that she was too dumb to understand solicitor instructions, and she had to use an official solicitor who was in cahoots with the social services, and put up little fight for her.

    independent reviews however claimed that Pullen was not in any way unable to care for her child.

    however, what seems strange is that they want to deny her contact with the child. Ok, let the child be adopted if she is unable to care for it, but why deny her access? She is not abusive of dangerous.

    Thanks for that :) Thats plain scary that they can get away with it in this day and age if she was not a threat to the child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1


    they've been getting away with it for years and years...

    there are plenty of cases like this... Fran Lyon who was beaten up by her OH and called the police... the police reported this to the Social Services: they came and asked her questions: turns out she was raped at 14 and had a long history of mental problems, but was now over those. Then they told her the baby would be taken away at birth. She kicked up a mighty stink (she had 5 A-levels and a neuroscience degree, so she could look after herself), and abandoned ship to Sweden: she is still too scared to come back. Social services still flinch when they hear her name, for the sheer damage she caused them.

    or this case http://camdensocialservices.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html. Father went to Qatar for a long time: mother was struggling to cope with daughter, so gave her to the social services to look after. Then they wouldn't give her back. The girl kept running away back to her parents', and every time the parents had to phone the police and send her back. One day she was killed with her carer in a car crash. Her mum is 49, and she was her only child.

    or the Angela Wileman case. A. was slapped by bf, reported him to the police. They accused her of letting her son see her abused, wouldn't believe that she kicked bf out and took the child away. A. took the bf back because an indepentdent social worker advised her to and had a second pregnancy: the social workers told her that would be taken away too. By this time the first kid was desperate to come home, so she stole him to foster care and ran to Spain (where child no. 2 was born). Then to Sweden. Then to Ireland, where the local courts cleared her of any wrongdoing. She still lives in Wexford.

    and that's just the tip of the iceberg...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 Valhalla


    OMG OMG OMG


    What sort of a dizzy bollocks gets a 17 yr old retarded dimwit up the bleedin pole!

    It had to been a case of 'straight in an no kissin' he couldnt have wooed her and brought out on dates etc cause after 6 seconds of the first date it'll be like OMFG:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 Valhalla


    omfg., U ARE SPO RIGHT ! WANNA HOOK, UP, HAVE SOME SCNADIE SEX


    unsure what SCNADIE is so ..... no..... and your a dude...... double no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1


    ahem... 25 year olds have been shagging 17 year olds since humanity began


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Valhalla wrote: »
    OMG OMG OMG


    What sort of a dizzy bollocks gets a 17 yr old retarded dimwit up the bleedin pole!

    It had to been a case of 'straight in an no kissin' he couldnt have wooed her and brought out on dates etc cause after 6 seconds of the first date it'll be like OMFG:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Your post made me sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1


    news just in - robertson has fled from Fife

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225878/Couple-flee-save-baby-social-workers-girl-17-told-clever-look-child.html

    btw just read Lynn Barber's story 'an education'. Funny how attitudes changed: people (including her parents) then virtually pushed her (at 16) to go out and eventually accept a marriage proposal from a man more than twice her age (she said that towards the end she didn't love him, but felt under much pressure from people around her to keep meeting him). Nowdays a 25yo going out with a 17yo is seen as a 'pervert'. How times have changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1




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