10k Crookstown Motorway run

Slogger Jogger · 12-09-2009 9:46pm #1

Leaflet on this in the goody bag at the Pearl Izumi run.
Entry fee is €30. All proceeds to charity according to the leaflet. Still, is this the dearest 10K on these islands

Woddle · 12-09-2009 9:59pm

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

Leaflet on this in the goody bag at the Pearl Izumi run.
Entry fee is €30. All proceeds to charity according to the leaflet. Still, is this the dearest 10K on these islands

It's nice to see the money going to charity but for me 20 euro is my max for these type races and considering todays race only cost me 10 euro...

daymobrew · 13-09-2009 11:27pm

I've entered it (I didn't have a race in November). I am hoping to experience a nice flat 10k.
The Dublin Port Tunnel 10k had a good fast return leg, but the crowds made it difficult to make a good time. I am hoping that this race will be very different.

Krusty_Clown · 01-10-2009 9:48pm

450/500 runners registered so far (and I'm one of them).

Andrewf20 · 05-10-2009 11:12am

Ill be there.

HardyEustace · 05-10-2009 11:50am

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

Leaflet on this in the goody bag at the Pearl Izumi run.
Entry fee is €30. All proceeds to charity according to the leaflet. Still, is this the dearest 10K on these islands

Nope. The GalwayBay 10k which was run this weekend was a whooping 60 euro.

Pisco Sour · 05-10-2009 7:59pm

Just registered. Where can I see the route and the elevation profile?

450 of 500 have registered, where did you hear that? How soon is it likely to sell out. Trying to convince my mates to register before its too late but they are very slow about these things.

ike · 05-10-2009 8:46pm

Agree its a bit steep @ €30, bit its probably only a once off can't see the M9 being closed again for a race. Never ran an official 10k so will be giving it a lash.

Should be flat as a pancake with a perfect surface...

Pisco Sour · 05-10-2009 9:03pm

My PB for 10km is 46:59 from the Great Ireland Run last year. How would that time translate into a race that is completely flat like this one? Sub 46?

mithril · 05-10-2009 10:43pm

Yes, I am entering this as well. My 10K best of 39:36 appears quite soft compared with what I have run at longer distances.

Krusty_Clown · 06-10-2009 12:35am

04072511 wrote: »

My PB for 10km is 46:59 from the Great Ireland Run last year. How would that time translate into a race that is completely flat like this one? Sub 46?

With this one, I think it really depends on the wind on the day (and how much training you've done since your last 10k). Besides, who says it's flat?

Krusty_Clown · 06-10-2009 12:37am

04072511 wrote: »

Just registered. Where can I see the route and the elevation profile?

450 of 500 have registered, where did you hear that? How soon is it likely to sell out. Trying to convince my mates to register before its too late but they are very slow about these things.

I got an email from them last week to say 450/500. May have just been trying to get people to get their skates on. Don't think you'll get a route or elevation profile until after the race, at which point, it'll just be too late. Maybe If you go early, they'll let you drive the route!

Pisco Sour · 06-10-2009 9:39am

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I got an email from them last week to say 450/500. May have just been trying to get people to get their skates on. Don't think you'll get a route or elevation profile until after the race, at which point, it'll just be too late. Maybe If you go early, they'll let you drive the route!

I'm assuming it will be a straight out and back course?

daymobrew · 06-10-2009 9:45am

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Besides, who says it's flat?

I think it was on the flyer, but is mentioned on the ActiveEurope entry page.

Fast, flat new motorway course, a great opportunity to beat your 10k personal best

Pisco Sour · 06-10-2009 9:58am

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

With this one, I think it really depends on the wind on the day (and how much training you've done since your last 10k). Besides, who says it's flat?

Surely this course would be "out and back" meaning any disadvantage of running into the wind for one half of the course would be compensated by having the wind at your back for the second half, so not making a difference overall, no?

Beags6257 · 06-10-2009 11:01am

04072511 wrote: »

Surely this course would be "out and back" meaning any disadvantage of running into the wind for one half of the course would be compensated by having the wind at your back for the second half, so not making a difference overall, no?

Hi All, This course runs down one side of the closed motorway, over the flyover and back the opposite side of the road (to where you will have parked your car).

We've had a great response so far with nearly 500 people registered to date and this number is growing daily. We'll need to close the registration at around the 600 mark. People are coming from all over the country for this one and you won't be disappointed. We have a great range of age, nationality and more importantly, ability. My guess is that the winner will do it in under 32mins .... but don't hold me to that.

All going to plan, you'll get a 5k split time (taken on the flyover) with your 10k final result texted to your phone soon after the race has finished.

See you at the start line on 7th November.

Krusty_Clown · 06-10-2009 7:15pm

04072511 wrote: »

Surely this course would be "out and back" meaning any disadvantage of running into the wind for one half of the course would be compensated by having the wind at your back for the second half, so not making a difference overall, no?

D'oh! <Slaps head>. Of course it will. Unless of course the wind changes direction.

Sounds good Beags6257, is there a water-stop planned?

daymobrew · 07-10-2009 9:14am

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Sounds good Beags6257, is there a water-stop planned?

It'll be November - it might need to be a coffee/tea station

We could probably get away without a water stop. Was there one for the Dublin Port Tunnel 10k (and it was hot inside the tunnel).

Beags6257 · 07-10-2009 3:56pm

daymobrew wrote: »

It'll be November - it might need to be a coffee/tea station
We could probably get away without a water stop. Was there one for the Dublin Port Tunnel 10k (and it was hot inside the tunnel).

One water station at the central barrier that will service both sides of the road so if you miss it on the way up, you are sure to get it on the way back. Plenty of refreshments (including hot tea/coffee and maybe soup) at the finish line too.

jlang · 07-10-2009 4:13pm

daymobrew wrote: »

It'll be November - it might need to be a coffee/tea station
We could probably get away without a water stop. Was there one for the Dublin Port Tunnel 10k (and it was hot inside the tunnel).

It was and there was, but as a water stop it was a bit of a joke. The first few guys might have had their cups ready poured, but by the time I got there they were pouring from a drum/keg tap into cups while competitors queued in an unordered line. Needless to say, I decided not to wait and I heard they ran out of water soon after anyway.

(On the more practical matter of whether you need water for a 10k, the answer is no, but for many people that's 60min+ of running so it is nice to be offered some.)

aero2k · 10-10-2009 2:53pm

04072511 wrote: »

Surely this course would be "out and back" meaning any disadvantage of running into the wind for one half of the course would be compensated by having the wind at your back for the second half, so not making a difference overall, no?

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Let's say on a windless day you could run 25 mins each way for a 50 min 10k. (average speed 12km/h) Now assume the wind adds or subtracts 1km/h to/from your pace. On the way out with the wind at your back you'll run at 13km/h taking 23:04, and on the return into the wind you'll do 11km/h and take 27:16 for a total of 50:20. The imbalance is due to spending more time at the lower average speed. The above makes lots of assumptions, but I reckon you don't get back what you lose.

SnappyDresser · 11-10-2009 5:58pm

Fee is WAY too much. Did the Lakes 10k for €18 and it was brilliant. Too much money in these tough times irrespective of the charties involved. They are all good causes.

Tawfee · 11-10-2009 8:38pm

i008787 wrote: »

Fee is WAY too much. Did the Lakes 10k for €18 and it was brilliant. Too much money in these tough times irrespective of the charties involved. They are all good causes.

+1.
I notice that the proceeds are going to St. Laurence national School. While i've no doubt it's a worthy cause, i can't help wondering about the waste of the taxes i've paid over the last few years that result in a national school having to depend on charity to keep going...(having said that, i'm not familiar with the particular circumstances of the school).

daymobrew · 11-10-2009 10:39pm

Tawfee wrote: »

i can't help wondering about the waste of the taxes i've paid over the last few years that result in a national school having to depend on charity to keep going...(having said that, i'm not familiar with the particular circumstances of the school).

All schools are underfunded. The FAQ at the bottom of the Educate Together FAQ

ET FAQ wrote:

How are Educate Together schools funded?
Educate Together National Schools are funded (or under-funded) on an exactly equal basis as other National Schools in Ireland. ... snip...

robinph · 13-10-2009 12:35pm

Just put my name down for this one.

As close as I can figure out from the terrain on Google maps it looks to be pretty flat, there will be at least one hill though wherever it is that we turn round and head back the other way.

robinph · 16-10-2009 10:14am

From trying to figure out the contour lines on the pdf map they sent us I think it will be uphill for the first half and downhill for the return leg.

ike · 16-10-2009 11:19am

From the email "Personal music players are permitted" :rolleyes:

Pisco Sour · 16-10-2009 11:27am

ike wrote: »

From the email "Personal music players are permitted" :rolleyes:

When are they not?

Beags6257 · 22-10-2009 8:10am

This is a quick note to let you know that registration for the 10k Crookstown Motorway Run has now closed at 700 runners ..... See you all at the start line on the day !!

Bobby1984 · 23-10-2009 12:42am

ike wrote: »

From the email "Personal music players are permitted" :rolleyes:

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I would also like to know when are they not allowed. Ive only done 3 4mile races but i want to do a HM and possibly a full marathon next year and would like to know if they are usually disallowed over longer distances. I have always ran to music so cutting it out would be really hard to do

daymobrew · 23-10-2009 8:42am

Bobby1984 wrote: »

I have always ran to music so cutting it out would be really hard to do

Running in a crowd in a race is very different to running on your own - easier IMO, because the crowd motivates you.

Beags6257 wrote: »

This is a quick note to let you know that registration for the 10k Crookstown Motorway Run has now closed at 700 runners ..... See you all at the start line on the day !!

Mmm, an event that is "limited to first 500 entries" suddenly has 700 participants.

ike · 23-10-2009 9:49am

It's not that music players were ever disallowed but there is a general movement towards banning them on safety grounds. The problem with running with music players is that people are generally unaware of their surroundings and often cut across in front of other runners etc. Some races are run on roads that aren't closed to traffic and the dangers in that case are obvious.

I'm assuming it is being allowed in this case as it will be run on a nice wide open motorway with plenty of room.

As a person who used to run with music over 2 years ago I found better training and losing weight made me run faster not the music.

Krusty_Clown · 23-10-2009 1:06pm

They are banned in the Connemarathon events, on threat of removal from the race/disqualification

Connemarathon Website wrote:

Are ipods and mp3 players banned ?
Yes, all personal music devices are banned for safety reasons.
Our race vehicles and ambulances must use the course, and must be able to alert participants of their presence.
A ban means that anyone using a device during the event will be disqualified from our results and will not be registered as a Connemarathon finisher.

asimonov · 23-10-2009 3:03pm

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

They are banned in the Connemarathon events, on threat of removal from the race/disqualification

goddamn, personal music devices, i can't even bring my walkman with megabass.

Pisco Sour · 23-10-2009 7:00pm

As much as the crowd can help you at certain points, there are many parts of a race where there is sweet F all supporters watching the race. It can get extremely boring at these points, so I need my IPod!

Krusty_Clown · 23-10-2009 7:37pm

04072511 wrote: »

As much as the crowd can help you at certain points, there are many parts of a race where there is sweet F all supporters watching the race. It can get extremely boring at these points, so I need my IPod!

I wore one for my first marathon, and never have worn one again since. Races are something to be savored, not ignored. Don't expect too many supporters at the Crookstown 10k though!

daymobrew · 24-10-2009 8:59am

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Don't expect too many supporters at the Crookstown 10k though!

And the straightness of the route will be extra boring. And unlike running the Phoenix Park, there won't be any deer or trees to look at.

Maybe those with iPods could use the hard shoulder

robinph · 24-10-2009 10:16am

I generally be too busy thinking about catching the guy in front or trying to make sure the guy behin doesn't catch me so be getting bored and want to be listening to any music.

DustyBin · 29-10-2009 8:10pm

Can anyone tell me for sure if the distances on the course are marked?
If so are they every KM or mile or both?
It might sound a bit lame but I want to get my pacing sorted out

Mantra Dave · 29-10-2009 8:48pm

I wanted to do this race and went to register today only I didn't know there was a 500 people limit. I am really gutted! If anyone has to drop out can they PM me and I'll pay them for their entry?

Krusty_Clown · 30-10-2009 2:13pm

Mantra Dave wrote: »

I wanted to do this race and went to register today only I didn't know there was a 500 people limit. I am really gutted! If anyone has to drop out can they PM me and I'll pay them for their entry?

They actually topped out at 700 entrants. Your best bet is to contact the organizers (one of whom has been posting here), and see if they can do anything for you. Also see if transfers are allowed (otherwise your post may be removed).

Beags6257 · 01-11-2009 5:41pm

DustyBin wrote: »

Can anyone tell me for sure if the distances on the course are marked?
If so are they every KM or mile or both?
It might sound a bit lame but I want to get my pacing sorted out

Not lame at all DB ... We have km markers along the route and the final km is broken down further ... 600m ... 400m ... 200m to encourage a sprint finish.

Look forward to seeing you all on the day, fingers crossed for some running-friendly weather !! If acuweather.com is to be trusted, we just might be alright.

RacoonQueen · 01-11-2009 5:45pm

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I wore one for my first marathon, and never have worn one again since. Races are something to be savored, not ignored. Don't expect too many supporters at the Crookstown 10k though!

Yep I did the same, your mind is buzzing so much you don't even hear the music anyway. Between doing maths in your head, dodging racepix365 photographers and trying to distract yourself from pain you're not going to be hearing much music anyway.

Beags6257 · 01-11-2009 5:52pm

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

They actually topped out at 700 entrants. Your best bet is to contact the organizers (one of whom has been posting here), and see if they can do anything for you. Also see if transfers are allowed (otherwise your post may be removed).

Huge response to this race and you are right KC, we maxed out at 700 entrants with a waiting/cancellation list that stands at around 50 runners.

We would love to have kept registration open but it is out of our hands as we were limited by a max figure agreed with the road contractors.

Email me about transfers if you like (laurencesparentscouncil@gmail.com) and we can work something out.

Pisco Sour · 04-11-2009 12:30pm

Hasnt been a lot of talk about this particular race. So what times are people targeting on saturday?

My PB being 46:59, I'm going to target a 45:59!

smartblaa · 04-11-2009 1:41pm

Beags6257 wrote: »

Huge response to this race and you are right KC, we maxed out at 700 entrants with a waiting/cancellation list that stands at around 50 runners.

We would love to have kept registration open but it is out of our hands as we were limited by a max figure agreed with the road contractors.

Email me about transfers if you like (laurencesparentscouncil@gmail.com) and we can work something out.

Hi Beags6257,
I've emailed in to say that someone can have my entry.
Not feeling too well, don't think I could handle the full 10km.

Better for someone else to have a proper go at it.

robinph · 04-11-2009 2:33pm

04072511 wrote: »

Hasnt been a lot of talk about this particular race. So what times are people targeting on saturday?

My PB being 46:59, I'm going to target a 45:59!

If I can get close to 38 something I'll be happy, a lot will depend on the direction the wind is blowing and how many people there are to chase down the motorway.

DustyBin · 04-11-2009 2:37pm

Never raced 10k before
McMillan reckons 43
Will be going b*lls out for a very optimistic 42.00

ike · 04-11-2009 3:12pm

Not doing the same training load as I was earlier in the year so will be very happy to get close to 41 but will be equally happy to get close to 42...:D

Git101 · 04-11-2009 4:57pm

04072511 wrote: »

Hasnt been a lot of talk about this particular race. So what times are people targeting on saturday?

My PB being 46:59, I'm going to target a 45:59!

McMillan reckons 44:x but I bet he didn't run a marathon 12 day before

I'll just have to see how the legs are on the day...

mithril · 04-11-2009 5:11pm

39:32 is my previous best but I think I can take a minute off this on a flat course.

10k Crookstown Motorway run

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