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Why Parents should need a licence :(

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    He's not the parent (it would have heavily mentioned that in the article) but I would question the actual parents leaving their child with an idiot/drughead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    A fitting punishment for his neglect would be to chain him to a post and attach a rope with a hook, in his ball sack, have that attached to a truck and have it drive off slowly, very fitting punishment IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Jeanious




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    coyle wrote: »

    i think my heart stopped while watching this.

    terrifying


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 MickMacca


    Lafin me 'ead off at this.

    The only area where the government have yet to get their slimey hands, and you lot are crying out for a licence.

    :eek: Will you ever learn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    OP has been banned. No search function so i can't see his other posts. I wonder what it was for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Exon wrote: »
    I agree, Parents should need a license to avoid years of missery to children.

    It should be fairly easy for reputable people to obtain a license but near impossible for people who mistreat their children.

    There should also be very strong sentencing guidelines giving the judges for child abuse cases, in a case such as this 10 years wouldn't be too much.

    A license doesn't guarantee anything though. It doesn't automatically make people good parents. It would only make the process of having children harder.

    What about one night stands, condoms bursting, unprotected sex. How do you prevent this? Do you force the mother to have an abortion if she doesn't have a license? It's impossible to implement. If anything increase funding to investigate these crimes, give free education to people and help them out instead of punishing everyone.
    I think you might be taking the thread a bit too serious there IamXavier.

    The internets are serious business... :P
    I highly doubt that the OP realkly means licenses are needed. I agree to some extent. People need licenses to drive cars, degrees to work at most jobs, training to work in retail but knock out a couple of kids and treat them like crap, no experience or qualifications needed, and this is by far the most difficult and important job of them all.

    It's a basic human right. Unless having children is going to severely harm your country and every who lives in it, people should be free to have children. Education is definately the way forward, providing help to parents and make them understand. Some parents are caught in a cycle, their parents shouted at them and beat them, their parents parents done it to them too. It's conditioning, they think it's actually ok to beat a child or mentally destroy that child. This is where education and counceling would help.
    I believe something needs to be done, the damage done in the early stages of childhood lasts a lifetime and the law is to weak, it seems because you gave birth to the child you have a divine right to keep it. At least, mandatory training should be held for all new parents when a child is born, conducting in the hospital. Parents cacn be educated about certain risks and how to help the child to benefit the most in their future. Yeah it'll cost money, but if it gives some children a better quality of life there's not ,uch to whinge about now is there?

    Giving birth to a child gives you the initial right to keep it, afterwards your actions decide if you are going to keep this child. Not everyone can provide the best for their kids, but they can give them an infinate amount of unconditional love, which is worth more, in my opinion, than any material good.

    I think it is ok for a child to be slaped with an open hand, on the back side. Most of us got it when we were kids, did it really do us any harm? A 20 stone body builder slaping a 2 year old child with full force is wrong.

    A slap should be timed right, so the child will be conditioned to do the right thing. A child does not always understand or respect a talk, or other forms of punishment. A slap will remind him/her more than anything else. Being grounded, taking the TV or computer away, no sweets or any other punishment isn't effective.

    Idealy the way you should raise your child is to positively reinforce any good actions with some sort of reward. If they are good, tell them, if they do something good, reward them with sweets, if they are continuously good then reward them with a day out. By far the most effective method of conditioning. Problem is, no child is perfect, nor is any parent no matter what you may think. Children still need a little slap in order to keep them in line. Note how I said slap, and not beating. I don't agree with shouting at children either, this makes the situation so much worse.

    Parenting is not an easy job, it never will be, but we as a society are becoming too conservative, rules for everything, licenses for everything. I always thing of how people lived hundreds of years ago, how few rules and regulations they had compared to us. Too many rules and laws is not a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    OP has been banned. No search function so i can't see his other posts. I wonder what it was for?

    You can always check the banlist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Was there not a casse in Holland where the Judge banned a woman from having any more kids?
    It's because of attitudes like yours that there are so many undisciplined, unruly little bollix's running around the place! - A bit of tough love can go a long way.

    I dont think you have grasped the full meaning of love and care.
    I have no problems disciplining my children...but never in an un-controlled manner. I let my children BE children...they run..play..make noise and I have to say Im gratfeul for that everyday of my life. I let them learn through experience.

    I know we as Parents suffer from the stresses of daily life...but we also have to remeber that kids..are the single most innocent members of our community...and need to be treated as such..regardless of everything else.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I think this guy may very well have got himself a slot on the next series of the worlds dumbest criminals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Miss Sunshine


    Idealy the way you should raise your child is to positively reinforce any good actions with some sort of reward. If they are good, tell them, if they do something good, reward them with sweets, if they are continuously good then reward them with a day out. By far the most effective method of conditioning. Problem is, no child is perfect, nor is any parent no matter what you may think. Children still need a little slap in order to keep them in line. Note how I said slap, and not beating. I don't agree with shouting at children either, this makes the situation so much worse.

    You are absolutely right and I couldn't agree more. However, the debate here is that some parents don't know how to raise children and do more harm than good. I'm an avid news reader and the amount of horrible stories regarding child abuse and neglect is horrific.

    Education is the way forward but if education wasn't a priority for the parents when they were younger it's not going to be now that they are parents. What I"m trying to say is they are not going to actively seek out evening classes that cost a couple of hundred euro each when they think they're doing a great job without it. This is why I suggested that parenting classes should be free and mandatory in hospital. Obviously it's not going to fix all problems and help everyone but if it helps a few it starts to break the cycle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    You are absolutely right and I couldn't agree more. However, the debate here is that some parents don't know how to raise children and do more harm than good. I'm an avid news reader and the amount of horrible stories regarding child abuse and neglect is horrific.

    Education is the way forward but if education wasn't a priority for the parents when they were younger it's not going to be now that they are parents. What I"m trying to say is they are not going to actively seek out evening classes that cost a couple of hundred euro each when they think they're doing a great job without it. This is why I suggested that parenting classes should be free and mandatory in hospital. Obviously it's not going to fix all problems and help everyone but if it helps a few it starts to break the cycle.

    Yea, if mandatory classes were given out, and regular checkups from the department of family and social afairs to the homes of suspected child abuse, or something, could work... Definately some sort of education though. It's really the only way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK



    Looks like Broken Britain is even more uncivilized than Ireland. I did not think such a thing was possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    That is just sick, it's equal to giving alcohol to a dog.

    He should be castrated for that.

    "Equal to"?

    (Baby cancer > drunken dog) by a good margin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭MetalDawg


    Ironically, a pack of cigarettes will be what his ass is now worth in jail.




    .......no, Bubba! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    *screams*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    MetalDawg wrote: »
    Ironically, a pack of cigarettes will be what his ass is now worth in jail.




    .......no, Bubba! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    *screams*

    Fantastic.


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