Bottled Water

15-10-2009 02:08PM

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walshb · 15-10-2009 02:09PM

I started to read you rant, but after a few lines, I got bored. Me thinks you are a water company executive, because you are taking this far too seriously. Either that, or you really are a mug, or. a yuppy!

donmeister · 15-10-2009 02:12PM

Who knew bottled water was such a hot topic to debate! :rolleyes:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 15-10-2009 02:16PM

walshb wrote: »

On a slightly separate note, I cannot understand how anyone can buy milk
from those plastic containers. The taste is discernibly different with the plastic.
It's not nice at all. The milk is the same as what you get in a tetra pak, but the plastic from
those bottles really distorts the taste

Haha, and I suppose there is no plastic in the paper cartons? oh lol... :rolleyes:

Either way, each to their own. Key words in your sentence "I don't understand"

Kipperhell wrote: »

Over the years I have seen a few TV experiments where people are to state from unmarked bottles which they prefer. The have used people whom prefer bottled water and those who don't. Not a single show ever had people reject tap water as the worst with the majority choosing tap water more often than not.

Try the experiment yourself. The key things that did seem to make a difference were how the water was stored (bottled water is often colder as it is stored in the fridge) and the detergents used on the drinking cup. Many people claim they can taste the plastic of bottled drinks and assuming that you may like that taste.

So you are trying to tell me that I don't know what I like and what I dislike? Are you taking the piss?

I can't taste plastic from the bottled water. Volvic and my own well taste completely differant to anything else I have tasted. With my own well tasting the best of the lot, volvic a close second. Tap water is cold too, unless somebody done a botch job in the plumbing.

Where did these taste tests partake, who was involved? Smokers? How good was their sence of taste? Some of my friends cannot taste the differance between tap water and volvic. I can. Was the test taken in their locality? If I go to another area, I may not be able to tell the differance between an average brand or own brand bottle water and tap water. If you are not used to the two, but I could easily tell the crap in dublin apart from anything else, apart from piss... I think they are pretty similar.

wasper · 15-10-2009 02:22PM

walshb wrote: »

Ah, bottled water, the worlds greatest con!

When they start selling sand to the Arabs, only then will it become
the worlds second greatest con.

They've already done that. The Saudis in the 70s imported white sand from Australian I think.
Also there was a proposal in the 70s too to toe an Iceberg from the form Antartica region to Saudi to cool & help irrigate the Kingdom for the next 10 years.

Capt'n Midnight · 15-10-2009 02:23PM

M450 wrote: »

I think it's ridiculous the amount of bottled water we go through and I'd be all for a tax to be placed on the bottles!

+1

in a country where tap water is freely available , bottled water is luxury and there should be a green tax on it, especially since the margins are enormous.

Also we don't need to drink as much water as the ads would suggest, the original research done in the 40's was for active military personnel and included water content in food as well as other beverages

Capt'n Midnight · 15-10-2009 02:23PM

davyjose wrote: »

They do already; saudi desert sand isn't coarse enough for certain construction jobs.

Crowd in Wiclow used to sell sand to them for water filtration too

walshb · 15-10-2009 02:26PM

Yareli Tangy Mercury wrote: »

Haha, and I suppose there is no plastic in the paper cartons? oh lol... :rolleyes:

Either way, each to their own. Key words in your sentence "I don't understand"
.

Hey, you need to slow down and relax. I never said that there wasn't any plastic in the paper tetra paks. I simply said, that milk from the plastic containers is not at all nice and the plastic taste is discernible. I personally do not buy milk from these plastic containers because the taste is altered far too much for my liking.

walshb · 15-10-2009 02:30PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

+1
Also we don't need to drink as much water as the ads would suggest, the original research done in the 40's was for active military personnel and included water content in food as well as other beverages

Very true. These misleading lectures about needing two to three litres of pure water a day are bollox. They don't seem to factor in tea or coffee or foods as also being a source of water, not pure, but still water based.

Jeez, if I were drinking two litres a day before any additional water from tea or coffee or food, I'd be fit to burst

Capt'n Midnight · 15-10-2009 02:32PM

lobber wrote: »

In terms of taste it is really what you are used to when you talk of better or worse. Most bottled water in fact is tasteless as it getes filtered to the point of having very few minerals in it. his was shown for Coca Cola's Riverrock brand in the Uk a few years ago. It was basically treated mains water which they put through added filtration and treatment and removed just about everything from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani

Dasani had to be withdrawn in the UK due to contamination with bromate, a suspected carcinogen, produced by the treatment process used on the water
...

Dasani was launched in the UK on 10 February 2004. The product launch was labelled "a disaster"[3], a "fiasco"[4] and a "PR catastrophe"[4].

Early advertisements referred to Dasani as "bottled spunk" or featured the tagline "can't live without spunk". "Spunk" is slang for semen in the UK.[5][6]

Prior to the launch, an article in The Grocer trade magazine had mentioned that the source of the Dasani brand water was in fact treated tap water from Sidcup. By early March 2004, the mainstream press had picked up on the story[7] and it became widely reported that Sidcup tap water was being treated, bottled and sold under the Dasani brand name in the UK.[3] Although Coca-Cola never implied that the water was being sourced from a spring or other natural source, they marketed it as being especially "pure".

....

Ironically, bromate was not present in the water before Coca-Cola's treatment process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_River_Rock
Deep River Rock is the brand name given to water produced by Coca Cola Bottlers Ulster Ltd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrier

Perrier's reputation for purity suffered a blow in 1990 when a North Carolina study reported having found benzene in the water source. Perrier shifted from explanation to explanation on the issue, finally stating that it was an isolated incident of a worker having made a mistake in the filtering procedure and that the spring itself was unpolluted. The incident ultimately led to the recall of 160 million bottles of Perrier.

Tap water undergoes more tests than many bottled water.

There are also concerns over the plasticisers used in making the plastic bottles that are used for all drinks.

In short bottled water may not be as pure as marketers may lead you to believe.

Auvers · 15-10-2009 02:44PM

Yareli Tangy Mercury wrote: »

Oh and do you have any evidence to back up that claim?

don’t need proof just common sense, think about it the company bottles the water, its then moved to a staging area for delivery, then a truck takes the water and distributes it to just say Tesco’s distribution centre there it remains until another truck comes and collects it for delivery to whatever shop its intended for, there it remains until all stock is consumed on the shop floor and then eventually the bottle makes it to the shop floor. So it will take at least 6 weeks from production to point of sale and thats a best guess estimate, but I think it would be a lot longer than 6 weeks sitting around on pallets

Kipperhell · 15-10-2009 02:47PM

Yareli Tangy Mercury wrote: »

I can't taste plastic from the bottled water. Volvic and my own well taste completely differant to anything else I have tasted. With my own well tasting the best of the lot, volvic a close second. Tap water is cold too, unless somebody done a botch job in the plumbing.

Where did these taste tests partake, who was involved? Smokers? How good was their sence of taste? Some of my friends cannot taste the differance between tap water and volvic. I can. Was the test taken in their locality? If I go to another area, I may not be able to tell the differance between an average brand or own brand bottle water and tap water. If you are not used to the two, but I could easily tell the crap in dublin apart from anything else, apart from piss... I think they are pretty similar.

You are basically saying your taste is refined enough so you can taste the difference in water yet you think that plastic other people taste is nonsense? Amazing how your taste buds are so in tune to be just at the right range as to denote such tastes of water but not plastics. How likely is that versus it being a mental construct maybe even subconscious

If you are so sure you can tell the difference do the blind taste test. You are pretty sure of yourself about this but I find it strange you think you are not influenced by the environment around you. The few taste tests I saw included people sure they could tell the difference and when all things were equal they failed to do so. It doesn't really matter about their tasting abilities they had the same view as you but were proved to not to be able to tell the difference.

The mind is easily tricked and unreliable. An ad in America showed a nostalgic vision of children drinking large glass bottles of a branded soft drink and was set in the 50s. While doing market research for the brand the company had people saying they always preferred it out of the big old glass bottles. It turns out the product had never been sold in big glass bottles ever and it was just in the ad. It is just like the placebo effect and nobody should think they are immune from such things.

zuroph · 15-10-2009 03:16PM

I'm a volvic drinker, and you can't stop me. Irish tap water is muck, and river rock ballygowan et al arent far behind.

we'llallhavetea_old · 15-10-2009 03:17PM

my tap water tastes like swimming pool.
it started tasting funky about two years ago.
i twitch now.

we'llallhavetea_old · 15-10-2009 03:19PM

zuroph wrote: »

I'm a volvic drinker, and you can't stop me. Irish tap water is muck, and river rock ballygowan et al arent far behind.

do ye not think volvic is ...gritty?

Strings.ie · 15-10-2009 03:23PM

I can't drink tap water any more. You can smell the bleach in it. Used to buy bottled water but invested in a water filter system (only 200 euro) that treats my tap water. It paid for itself in 6 months and came with two filters each lasting a year. The water is crystal clear, doesn't smell of chemicals and tastes pure. I had a look at the filter 3 or 4 months in, disgusting yellowing muck all over it.

Thing is, since having the filter I can't drink tea at other peoples houses. It just tastes of bleach.

KilOit · 15-10-2009 03:28PM

Strings.ie wrote: »

Thing is, since having the filter I can't drink tea at other peoples houses. It just tastes of bleach.

Maybe they don't like you and are trying to poison you?

zuroph · 15-10-2009 03:42PM

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

do ye not think volvic is ...gritty?

I actually know what you mean, but thats what I like about it, I just like the taste! After that, Vittel and/or Evian.

segaBOY · 15-10-2009 03:44PM

Isaac Green Sticker wrote: »

I buy water because its tastes way better than tap water. I do drink tap water also at times but it is usually awful stuff.

They also removed our water cooler from work due to the recession and now I drink a lot less water.

Should move to the country and drill your own well-can't beat it tbh

moonflower · 15-10-2009 03:52PM

Our tap water started tasting like chlorine around 2 years ago, before that it was grand. It's also got little white things floating in it. So I drink bottled water now.

Kipperhell · 15-10-2009 03:53PM

Strings.ie wrote: »

I can't drink tap water any more. You can smell the bleach in it. Used to buy bottled water but invested in a water filter system (only 200 euro) that treats my tap water. It paid for itself in 6 months and came with two filters each lasting a year. The water is crystal clear, doesn't smell of chemicals and tastes pure. I had a look at the filter 3 or 4 months in, disgusting yellowing muck all over it.

Thing is, since having the filter I can't drink tea at other peoples houses. It just tastes of bleach.

You didn't actually fall for the sales pitch with the electric current through water did you? I think you will find if you ran you new pure water through another filter it would also be discoloured in the manner described. Do you really think our bodies have adapted in a way that requires water to be filtered in order for you to drink it?

GavRedKing · 15-10-2009 03:54PM

Tap water FTW.

I only buy bottle water when I have forgotten to bring my own botteld tap water somewhere.:D

spoonbadger · 15-10-2009 04:01PM

Yareli Tangy Mercury wrote: »

I love bottled water. The stuff you drink from your taps is not water, it is muck. It tastes disgusting and it smells. We have our own well in Wicklow, better than any bottled water. I fill up there when I can. After that I have to say that volvic is by far the nicest of all the bottled water. Evian is muck for the price of it, river rock is nice also

It's water, not wine. It should and does taste of nothing. You CANT taste french volcanoes, no matter what the marketing ploys tell you

. Also, all bottled water is muck for the price you pay. It's not a rare commodity :pac:.

Water tastes of water, treated water tastes like chemicals and fresh/purified water doesn't.

orourkeda · 15-10-2009 04:11PM

What's wrong with pints

walshb · 15-10-2009 05:04PM

Strings.ie wrote: »

I can't drink tap water any more. You can smell the bleach in it. Used to buy bottled water but invested in a water filter system (only 200 euro) that treats my tap water. It paid for itself in 6 months and came with two filters each lasting a year. The water is crystal clear, doesn't smell of chemicals and tastes pure. I had a look at the filter 3 or 4 months in, disgusting yellowing muck all over it.

Thing is, since having the filter I can't drink tea at other peoples houses. It just tastes of bleach.

+1

The best option of the lot if in doubt is to filter your tap water and it's not an expensive process, but this crap of going down the local shop to buy bottled water at 1 Euro and upwards, that has probably been lying in a warehouse for weeks on end is IMO just yuppiness. How the hell did we ever survive before this con came?:rolleyes:

Joey the lips · 15-10-2009 05:12PM

I agree bottled water is the worlds greates con but i love when I am out and my child asks me for a bottle of water rather than a bottle of coke.

15-10-2009 05:20PM

segaBOY wrote: »

Should move to the country and drill your own well-can't beat it tbh

I'm from the country and we have our own well but it was filled in years ago as it was dangerous for children/animals due to its location and depth. We plan on opening it up again though at some point and adding some safety features.

walshb · 15-10-2009 05:24PM

Joey the lips wrote: »

I agree bottled water is the worlds greates con but i love when I am out and my child asks me for a bottle of water rather than a bottle of coke.

Yeh, but do you waste a Euro or more in getting the child the bottle, or do you say, "wait till we get home and you can drink all the water you want.":p

I suppose wasting ONCE is okay, and from then on, bring a bottle of water with you every time

BeatNikDub · 15-10-2009 05:25PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned sodium levels in bottled water.

Irish bottled water seems to be the worst offenders also. I wouldnt touch River Rock if you paid me, you're not rehydrating yourself at all, but just adding to the dehydration!

Last night i picked up Nash's Spring water and it had a sodium level of THIRTY EIGHT! That's the highest I have ever seen, Volvic et al are usually around the 11 mark.

Tap water FTW

walshb · 15-10-2009 05:26PM

BeatNikDub wrote: »

I wouldnt touch River Rock if you paid me, you're not dehaydrating yourself at all!

Don't you mean rehydrating?

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