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Six Year Old Boy Suspended From US School For Using Knife & Fork

  • 13-10-2009 11:43PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭


    I heard it on the wireless earlier and laughed. What next, expulsion for using a tissue? Zero tolerance gone a mile too far IMO.

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    BEAR, Del. — A Delaware first-grader who was facing 45 days in an alternative school as punishment for taking his favorite camping utensil to school can return to class after the school board made a hasty change granting him a reprieve.

    The seven-member Christina School Board voted unanimously Tuesday to reduce the punishment for kindergartners and first-graders who take weapons to school or commit violent offenses to a suspension ranging from three to five days.

    Zachary Christie, 6, had faced 45 days in an alternative school for troublemakers after he took the utensil — a combination folding knife, fork and spoon — to school to eat lunch last month. Now, he could return Wednesday.

    "I want to get him back as soon as possible. I want to put this behind him as soon as possible," said Debbie Christie, Zachary's mother. "But I also want him to know that he has a voice, and when things are not right, he can stand up and speak out against them."

    A spokeswoman for the school district said more changes to the school system's code of conduct were possible in the coming months.

    The punishment given to Zachary was one of several in recent years that have prompted national debate on whether schools have gone too far with zero-tolerance policies.

    It was not the first such case in the Christina School District, Delaware's largest with more than 17,000 students, which includes parts of the city of Wilmington and its suburbs. Last year, a fifth-grade girl was ordered expelled after she brought a birthday cake to school and a serrated knife to cut it with.

    The expulsion was overturned, and it led to a state law that gave districts more flexibility on punishments. But that law applied only to conduct that triggers expulsions, not suspensions.

    School board member John Mackenzie told The Associated Press before the meeting that he was surprised school officials did not use common sense and disregard the policy in Zachary's case. The need for common sense to prevail over the letter of the law was a recurring theme among the boy's supporters and school safety experts.

    "When that common sense is missing, it sends a message of inconsistency to students, which actually creates a less safe environment," said Kenneth S. Trump, president of National School Safety and Security Services, a consulting firm. "People have to understand that assessing on a case-by-case basis doesn't automatically equate to being soft or unsafe."
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    Not everyone believed the school district was out of line.

    Jennifer Jankowski, who runs the special education programs at Jennie Smith Elementary in Newark, said schools need to be vigilant about protecting students. If Zachary or another student had been hurt by the knife, she said, the district would have taken the blame.

    "If we can't punish him, then what about kids that did bring (a weapon) for bad things?" Jankowski said. "There's more to the school's side than just us being mean and not taking this child's interests into account."

    Several people spoke on Zachary's behalf, including some who said other students had been unjustly punished.

    Dodi Hebert said her 13-year-old son, Kyle, was tormented throughout last year by a group of bullies who ultimately planted a knife on him. Kyle was ordered into the alternative school, but Hebert refused to send him there and home-schools him instead.

    "You can't kick kids out of school for the kinds of things that are happening," Connie Merlet told the board. "This is a horrible thing to happen to our district, to be on the national news because you guys weren't paying attention."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    http://www.foxnews.com/images/575981/0_61_101209_christie_0.jpg

    he looks like a future killer, best catch them while they are young


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Was he playing knifey-spooney?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Was he playing knifey-spooney?

    No, apparently they had intended on playing 'Catch a girl, nyom a girl'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭Whosbetter?


    In all fairness, he looks like a little physico.

    Best not to give him any matches either!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Fork-in hell.


    That's all I've got, I swear on my knife


    :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    That's one ****ed way to treat a boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That's one forked way to treat a boy.

    fyp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    is it just me or can anyone else see the ironing in the school being called 'downes'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Shoop


    Was he playing knifey-spooney?

    Yes.....but with knife instead of a spoon. SO HE DESERVED IT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    His life is forked now =[


    Criminal record and all that, knife crime is srs bsns!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    super-rush wrote: »
    I heard it on the wireless earlier and laughed. What next, expulsion for using a tissue? Zero tolerance gone a mile too far IMO.

    Link
    In other news a 67 year old man shot his fiancee mistakenly with a shotgun he probably got as a byproduct of lax gun control.

    Make up your ****ing mind about which one you're going to moan about: more control or less control :rolleyes:


    In all seriousness though your OP is widely misleading. It would have been a pocket knife that this kid was carrying around with him, and probably showing off to his friends in the back of class. Not the butterknife you pick up at the end of the line at the canteen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    The world has gone crazy
    I regularly brought a penknife to school (to eat apple or slice bananna into a sandwich). How many kids today eat enough fruit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Overheal wrote: »
    In other news a 67 year old man shot his fiancee mistakenly with a shotgun he probably got as a byproduct of lax gun control.

    Make up your ****ing mind about which one you're going to moan about: more control or less control :rolleyes:


    How about some common sense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    davyjose wrote: »
    How about some common sense?
    How about a panel has already discussed the boys case, probably had the camping fork to inspect, and they still found it to be dangerous. So Im going to go with their ruling. Not your off the cuff blogopinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Shoop


    2 stroke wrote: »
    The world has gone crazy
    I regularly brought a penknife to school (to eat apple or slice bananna into a sandwich). How many kids today eat enough fruit?

    So how is finglas these days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2 stroke wrote: »
    The world has gone crazy
    I regularly brought a penknife to school (to eat apple or slice bananna into a sandwich). How many kids today eat enough fruit?
    Unfortunately that would be enough to stab someone with if you gave it to a kid with the inclination to hurt someone. Or a prisoner in need of a shank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I blame it on the US constitution and the right to bear cutlery.

    Cutlery doesn't kill people, people who use cutlery kill people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    stovelid wrote: »

    you sure this wasnt the first thing you thought of


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Overheal wrote: »
    How about a panel has already discussed the boys case, probably had the camping fork to inspect, and they still found it to be dangerous. So Im going to go with their ruling.
    It doesn't mean they haven't shown a complete absence of common sense.
    The article I read didn't give me any reason to think otherwise
    Overheal wrote: »
    Not your off the cuff blogopinion.
    After hours would be pretty quiet without them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    2 stroke wrote: »
    The world has gone crazy
    I regularly brought a penknife to school (to eat apple or slice bananna into a sandwich). How many kids today eat enough fruit?

    Eating an apple off the blade of a knife is THE most hardcore way to eat fruit ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    Overheal wrote: »
    Unfortunately that would be enough to stab someone with if you gave it to a kid with the inclination to hurt someone. Or a prisoner in need of a shank.

    Carrying a knife does not make a person want to injure others. In my life I have used several types of knives, power saws, chainsaws, shot guns and rifles, yet I have never used one to injure another person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 307 ✭✭artielange


    Overheal wrote: »
    In other news a 67 year old man shot his fiancee mistakenly with a shotgun he probably got as a byproduct of lax gun control.


    Mistakenly my ass. He had been married before and just came to his senses.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,300 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Bloody americans. They have laws that make it possible for
    Kindergarten and first grade students

    to be
    charged with Level III offenses.

    That's just ****ing stupid and depraved tbph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    its retarded trying to send him to a school for bad kids for 45 days when they could have just told him not to bring it in again, he's 6 ffs.
    The law they have isnt a bad one, but what clown of a teacher went and carried out the law fully when the kid probably just didnt know any better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    Eating an apple off the blade of a knife is THE most hardcore way to eat fruit ever.

    Just dont eat off the blade... Yea some dic<head in 1st class done this and spat blood on my copy! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2 stroke wrote: »
    Carrying a knife does not make a person want to injure others. In my life I have used several types of knives, power saws, chainsaws, shot guns and rifles, yet I have never used one to injure another person.
    Is that what I said at all? No. Its not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,518 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Overheal wrote: »
    Unfortunately that would be enough to stab someone with if you gave it to a kid with the inclination to hurt someone. Or a prisoner in need of a shank.

    A lot like a sharp pencil then huh?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    America needs to stand back and look at itself


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