Stephen Gately has died! ----(mod warning post #6)

Harpy · 2009-10-11 02:09:51

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article6869799.ece such sad news only 33, no info on what really happened yet RIP

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#272 13-10-2009 01:29AM

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[quote=[Deleted User];62496051]First of all, I don't think 'insincere sorrow' is on the same level as stupid jokes. It might be annoying for you, but it's far less disrespectful to the man who died and less upsetting for family or friends who may be reading. Secondly, perhaps people are genuinely sad about it? And how do you know those people didn't know him or know his family? Ireland is a very, very small place.[/QUOTE]

nacho libre wrote: »

i'm afraid i can't agree with this ivory tower-like sneer at the common folk who are emotive about the death of a public figure. i'm not sad this guy is dead as i did not know him and his music did not not reasonate with me but for other people it clearly does and for some he was a big influence in their formartive years so it is perfectly understandable that they would be sad at his passing. i don't seen that as in sincere and sinister or an indication of some sort of psychological weakness on their part.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was of course not including those who knew him, nor those who genuinely feel a pang of sadness. I'm not so cynical as to believe all the sentiment expressed here is insincere. The death of a figure in popular culture can be quite affecting if that person made a mark on a particular generation. I was genuinely saddened in that context when Michael Jackson died. And there is obviously nothing wrong with expressing the view that this is a terrible, senseless tragedy and waste of a young life (I did so myself). What I'm referring to though is the self indulgent, self righteous high horse-mounting as a backlash against anything that's civil and reasonable but not simply "RIP".

As for the tiresome "jokes", getting outraged at them is exactly what those posting them are looking for...

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#273 13-10-2009 02:50AM

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rip

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#274 13-10-2009 03:24AM

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I'm very sorry to hear about Stephen.
He was my favourite boyzone member and I do recall having a slight crush on him at the age of 13. I don't know what happened, but I do wish his family well and hope they get through this difficult time.
Rest in peace Stephen.

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#275 13-10-2009 03:26AM

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CountingCrows wrote: »

Lets hope there's no cynical attempt to cash in on this with a crass Christmas song

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#276 13-10-2009 03:57AM

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[cm]tyranny wrote: »

Stephen Gately memorial candles! Get your Stephen Gately memorial candles here!

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Good God that's tacky.

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#277 13-10-2009 07:03AM

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Thse candles are pathetic.

And how completely bizarro and not at all made up that 5 out of 8 of the testimonials are from ninnies who mention how their candles arrived in "perfect condition"
What sort of dimwits do the candle people think their customers are?
Actually, don't answer that, to buy something as God awful as that in the first place, you'd have to be a bit of a dodo.

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#278 13-10-2009 09:25AM

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[cm]tyranny wrote: »

Stephen Gately memorial candles! Get your Stephen Gately memorial candles here!

http://www.candles-by-laurence.com/stephen_gately_tribute_candle.htm

A prime candidate for a dos attack if ever I saw one.

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#279 13-10-2009 09:51AM

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[cm]tyranny wrote: »

Stephen Gately memorial candles! Get your Stephen Gately memorial candles here!

http://www.candles-by-laurence.com/stephen_gately_tribute_candle.htm

Ah Jesus :rolleyes:

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#280 13-10-2009 10:07AM

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Just seeing these reports from Sky of a third man who apparently found him originally.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Stephen-Gately-Post-Mortem-Bulgarian-Georgi-Dochev-Tells-Of-Shock-At-Boyzone-Stars-Death/Article/200910215404664?lpos=Showbiz_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15404664_Stephen_Gately_Post-Mortem%3A_Bulgarian_Georgi_Dochev_Tells_Of_Shock_At_Boyzone_Stars_Death

The suggestion seems to be: they met this guy at the club they were at, they came back to their apartment, they MAYBE had another drink or two, and then they went to sleep.

What's puzzling me is the sleeping arrangements: why was Gately on the couch? Were they all in the sitting room?

I don't mean to be sensationalist, but usually when someone is brought home like this, it's with more in mind than a nightcap. I have an awful feeling that they brought him home more at the request of Gately's husband, and that Gately was left on his own in the sitting room while the other two shared a different room. Maybe that's just my cynicism speaking.

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#281 13-10-2009 12:39PM

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Well Newstalk are reporting that he died of a pulmonary oedema. I'm no doctor but as far as I know, that's not usually as a result of over drinking?

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#282 13-10-2009 12:44PM

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LookingFor wrote: »

What's puzzling me is the sleeping arrangements: why was Gately on the couch? Were they all in the sitting room?

Cause it's impossible to move a drunk man? If my boyfriend comes home after a hard nights drinking and passes out on the couch I leave him there. I know from experience he will not be moved!

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#283 13-10-2009 12:47PM

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Listening to the news there... Autopsy has been preformed in Spain.
Died of natural causes?? More details to follow later in the day

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#284 13-10-2009 12:48PM

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Irish radio is saying he died of natural causes

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#285 13-10-2009 12:54PM

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LookingFor wrote: »

Just seeing these reports from Sky of a third man who apparently found him originally.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Stephen-Gately-Post-Mortem-Bulgarian-Georgi-Dochev-Tells-Of-Shock-At-Boyzone-Stars-Death/Article/200910215404664?lpos=Showbiz_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15404664_Stephen_Gately_Post-Mortem%3A_Bulgarian_Georgi_Dochev_Tells_Of_Shock_At_Boyzone_Stars_Death

The suggestion seems to be: they met this guy at the club they were at, they came back to their apartment, they MAYBE had another drink or two, and then they went to sleep.

What's puzzling me is the sleeping arrangements: why was Gately on the couch? Were they all in the sitting room?

I don't mean to be sensationalist, but usually when someone is brought home like this, it's with more in mind than a nightcap. I have an awful feeling that they brought him home more at the request of Gately's husband, and that Gately was left on his own in the sitting room while the other two shared a different room. Maybe that's just my cynicism speaking.

Was this man not known to both Stephen and his partner?

Don't believe everything you hear or read.

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#286 13-10-2009 01:04PM

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LookingFor wrote: »

What's puzzling me is the sleeping arrangements: why was Gately on the couch? Were they all in the sitting room?

I don't mean to be sensationalist, but usually when someone is brought home like this, it's with more in mind than a nightcap. I have an awful feeling that they brought him home more at the request of Gately's husband, and that Gately was left on his own in the sitting room while the other two shared a different room. Maybe that's just my cynicism speaking.

He was a friend of theirs, known to both of them.
What's most likely is that they had an arrangement whereby whoever come home late after partying got to sleep on the couch, so as not to wake the other.

Either that or he got up in the middle of the night feeling unwell, to go to the toilet or get a drink but then had to sit down and collapsed.

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#287 13-10-2009 01:07PM

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IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Well Newstalk are reporting that he died of a pulmonary oedema. I'm no doctor but as far as I know, that's not usually as a result of over drinking?

pulmonary oedema is a build up of fluid in the Lungs, can be caused by heart failure.

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#288 13-10-2009 01:08PM

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JP Liz wrote: »

Irish radio is saying he died of natural causes

There is nothing natural about homosexuality

Nevermind

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#289 13-10-2009 01:13PM

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Turd Ferguson wrote: »

There is nothing natural about homosexuality

Nevermind

Uh oh

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#290 13-10-2009 01:14PM

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Gone Drinking wrote: »

Uh oh

What? I'm allowed make fun of gay people. My father is gay

(also the mod note said no jokes about the death)

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#291 13-10-2009 01:18PM

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Turd Ferguson wrote: »

There is nothing natural about homosexuality

Nevermind

What that got to do with the passing of Stephen Gately?

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#292 13-10-2009 01:19PM

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whycliff wrote: »

pulmonary oedema is a build up of fluid in the Lungs, can be caused by heart failure.

Thank you!

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#293 13-10-2009 01:20PM

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Turd Ferguson wrote: »

My father is gay

Chandler Bing..how the hell are you?

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#294 13-10-2009 01:25PM

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ronaneire wrote: »

Was this man not known to both Stephen and his partner?

Don't believe everything you hear or read.

If he was a friend that casts a different colour on things. Reports I'd read hadn't said that. I was just surmising...I am a cynical old bastard

Anyway, kind of shocking someone of his age can die of something like that just like that. Scary. They say there was no link to drink or drugs, so it was just a natural occurence. Sudden deaths in young people like this always freak me out.

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#295 13-10-2009 01:58PM

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Turd Ferguson wrote: »

There is nothing natural about homosexuality

Nevermind

Banned.

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

(also the mod note said no jokes about the death)

Wrong.

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#296 13-10-2009 02:31PM

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I'm glad to hear that Stephen's partner and family can now take him home. I'm still shocked at his premature death. I was never a huge fan of boyzone but I had huge admiration for the courage Stephen showed in 1999 by coming out. It can only have been difficult as at that time Irish society was a very different place.

Ireland has lost a truly courageous person and Stephen's family can only be proud of the strong character he was.

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#297 13-10-2009 02:42PM

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joey54 wrote: »

It can only have been difficult as at that time Irish society was a very different place.

It wasn't much different to be fair

Sure Will & Grace was on TV for a year before he came out.. not like it was a totally unheard of thing by the Irish people

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#298 13-10-2009 02:47PM

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He was my Boyzone crush! God, I must have been 9/10 when they were belting out songs. Sad to think that anyone so young can just die like that. I really hope his family and friends are doing okay, it's a horrible time for all of them.

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#299 13-10-2009 02:49PM

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My name is URL wrote: »

It wasn't much different to be fair

Sure Will & Grace was on TV for a year before he came out.. not like it was a totally unheard of thing by the Irish people

Yeah, but there is a big difference between USA and little auld catholic ireland! Not saying that the country was in the dark ages back then, but it certantly wasnt as acceptable to be gay here as it was over state side...

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#300 13-10-2009 02:53PM

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White_Feather wrote: »

Yeah, but there is a big difference between USA and little auld catholic ireland! Not saying that the country was in the dark ages back then, but it certantly wasnt as acceptable to be gay here as it was over state side...

I bet there are still people very afraid to come out in small town Ireland. We haven't come as far as we like to tell ourselves we have.

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#301 13-10-2009 02:56PM

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IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I bet there are still people very afraid to come out in small town Ireland. We haven't come as far as we like to tell ourselves we have.

How true! My best friend is one of them and its an absolute disgrace. I have so much admiration for Stephen...

RIP

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