College Fees Scrapped

samf · 10-10-2009 01:25AM

grenache wrote: »

You still have to pay E1650 registration and capitation fees.

Not if you get the grant, then its just the capitation which is about 150 I think. This is a massive victory for the students of ireland.

K-9 · 10-10-2009 01:26AM

samf wrote: »

Not if you get the grant, then its just the capitation which is about 150 I think. This is a massive victory for the students of ireland.

Ah great, the registration fee will be jumped to over €2k then. Great. Another middle class tax.

samf · 10-10-2009 01:29AM

6000 for college still sure as hell beats 20,000!

K-9 · 10-10-2009 01:41AM

samf wrote: »

6000 for college still sure as hell beats 20,000!

YEP, no argument there.

Problem is they replaced one inequality with another when they introduced free fees.

Michael O'Leary pays the same 6k as a Nurse sending their son/daughter to 3rd Level. Somebody explain that one?

smellslikeshoes · 10-10-2009 01:47AM

Can't see them going back on this decision being anything other than trying to keep voters happy. Don't get me wrong, I'm against College fees I just think this is more of a strategic move than a decision to try benefit the country.

minidazzler · 10-10-2009 01:47AM

K-9 wrote: »

YEP, no argument there.

Problem is they replaced one inequality with another when they introduced free fees.

Michael O'Leary pays the same 6k as a Nurse sending their son/daughter to 3rd Level. Somebody explain that one?

We is kinda communist like that!!

K-Ren · 10-10-2009 01:49AM

Aww, I was kind of looking forward to protesting, guess I'll have to wait a bit longer to feel all empowered and outraged.

DenMan · 10-10-2009 01:56AM

Time to tell some friends of mine.

Great news.

KerranJast · 10-10-2009 02:05AM

samf wrote: »

Not if you get the grant, then its just the capitation which is about 150 I think. This is a massive victory for the students of ireland.

Is it ****. The Greens just managed to get something to pander to their middle class base who can now continue to spend that money on private schooling for their kids. In any case the new PfG has to be passed tomorrow which is no mean feat.

themont85 · 10-10-2009 02:24AM

samf wrote: »

Not if you get the grant, then its just the capitation which is about 150 I think. This is a massive victory for the students of ireland.

90% of the students of Ireland gave up on fees issue months ago. Only need to read the papers and see at max a couple of hundred students protesting to see that people thought it would be back, one reason they didn't care is that they found out that current students wouldn't pay.

Massive bonus for parents with kids 16/17. I would love to see the smug face of Hugh Brady slowely ebb away as he realises that his university ranking won't rise so much now that funding is pretty much frozen.

There isn't enough alumni who donate to their old college here, that is a tradition I like about the States.

hopalong85 · 10-10-2009 03:26AM

K-9 wrote: »

Ah great, the registration fee will be jumped to over €2k then. Great. Another middle class tax.

Yep, pretty much. Sad really.

lostexpectation · 10-10-2009 05:45AM

this was going to ages to set up anyway, more then 6 months perhaps

BurnsCarpenter · 10-10-2009 09:00AM

K-9 wrote: »

Problem is they replaced one inequality with another when they introduced free fees.

Michael O'Leary pays the same 6k as a Nurse sending their son/daughter to 3rd Level. Somebody explain that one?

Michael O'Leary has paid a hell of a lot more tax than this Nurse.

Ste.phen · 10-10-2009 10:03AM

BurnsCarpenter wrote: »

Michael O'Leary has paid a hell of a lot more tax than this Nurse.

And supplied employment and tourists to the country, but that's not important is it? the important thing is that rich people be vilified

Mark200 · 10-10-2009 10:11AM

As a student I think some sort of student loan scheme should have been brought in.... where the Government pay for your fees now and then if you're ever on a modest salary in the future then you pay it back.

Or apparently in England you only have to pay it back if that modest salary is related to the college course you took.

Some people will just protest for the sake of protesting.

loobylou · 10-10-2009 11:00AM

Let me get this right then, there are no fees, there will be no fees and we must go down on our hands and knees thanking the Green Party and FF for this?

timmywex · 10-10-2009 11:55AM

A few days ago the green party decided that they were opposed to the re introdution thanks to lobbying by the studnts unions.

For the lat few months, students unions have been meeting anyone they can and lobbying and getting on to them. I know for fact the tcd union did a huge amount of work for it. It looks they could well win the battle, thats if the thing is voted in of course....

Mossy Monk · 10-10-2009 11:58AM

Dont the Green party have to vote on this before it is official?

entropi · 10-10-2009 12:07PM

Pretty sweet news if it goes ahead!!:D:D

DoireNod · 10-10-2009 12:21PM

Mask wrote: »

Great news, thank god..

Students still are wasters though.

Students are wasters. I mean, it's all well and good enjoying the new found 'freedom' that life away from home permits, but there's a difference between enjoyment and idiocy, surely?

I'm all for the free fees, but I think more stringent criteria has to be brought in for people seeking access to further education. The amount of fools at university is shocking and these people, riding on the free fees scheme and the reasonably easily attained entry requirements are de-valuing my degree!

loobylou · 10-10-2009 12:24PM

Master of Nothing wrote: »

Pretty sweet news if it goes ahead!!:D:D

They have us almost completely conditioned...
We're grateful to the government because they HAVE'NT done something...

ShooterSF · 10-10-2009 12:35PM

nibtrix wrote: »

Let the bears pay the bear tax!

Beaten to it

Anyway,

"I pay the homer tax."

Mossy Monk · 10-10-2009 12:35PM

Master of Nothing wrote: »

Pretty sweet news if it goes ahead!!:D:D

With this news another term for Fianna Fail and the Green Party is in order.

entropi · 10-10-2009 12:39PM

Taken from http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1010/programme.pdf

"Higher Education

Conscious of the economic pressures on parents today, this Government will not proceed with any new scheme of student contribution for Third Level education."

I just read through that greens information thing, and although the government havent done much about anything good lately...i would like this to be true, i really would.

And don't get me wrong Mossy Monk, i couldnt be arsed to vote for them after they gave a massive f*** you to their voters and joined up with FF, thus being huge hypocrites in the process.

snubbleste · 10-10-2009 12:43PM

Eh hello, what about NAMA? that gigantic big taxpayers money eater, students/future workers will have to pay some serious taxes to fund NAMA more than the abolishment of free fees would ever cost.

phasers · 10-10-2009 12:44PM

Aw man does this mean that they won't put any more money into grants?

I was hoping I could afford books next year

almostnever · 10-10-2009 12:48PM

How many years is this guaranteed for?

Debthree · 10-10-2009 12:50PM

God Almighty what is wrong with you people? The Greens ask the government NOT to introduce third-level fees when there was no guarantee they were introducing them anyway and you're all on your knees thanking them???

This is unbelievable. Nobody knows what's in the next budget. Believe me, Fianna Fail will have PLENTY of cutbacks planned - plenty of ways to abuse us - and more than likely the re-introduction college fees was not on the cards at all. It's too soon for that.

And even if it WAS on the cards, you actually believe a Fianna Fail promise not to do it now? LMAO!!!

I cannot believe how gullible people in this country are. I'm in total shock.

Please remember the Green Party were in full support of the education cutbacks made by the government last year. They don't give a crap how much you pay. They don't give a crap if a special-needs kid can't get to the bathroom because his special needs assistant has been fired. They don't give a crap if kids still haven't got all their school books 5 weeks into the school term because their parents can't afford to buy them. They don't give a crap whether you can afford to go to college or not. If they gave a crap they'd have never approved the education cutbacks to begin with.

This move is SOLELY to get a reaction that most of you are giving. Promise the gullible thick public something that is meaningless and they'll get the majority of Green Party members on our side.

USE YOUR BRAINS!

Coles · 10-10-2009 12:52PM

LOL!! FF will promise anything to get their patrons bailed out. They won't be in power in implement the cut in services/public sector pay/public sector numbers that will be necessary to deal with the deficit.

phasers · 10-10-2009 12:55PM

Debthree wrote: »

God Almighty what is wrong with you people? The Greens ask the government NOT to introduce third-level fees when there was no guarantee they were introducing them anyway and you're all on your knees thanking them??

This move is SOLELY to get a reaction that most of you are giving. Promise the gullible thick public something that is meaningless and they'll get the majority of Green Party members on our side.

USE YOUR BRAINS!

:rolleyes: ffs calm down Mad Max, people are happy that they don't have to pay upwards of 5 grand a year now, it's not some pro-green conspiracy.

I still hate the greens, but that doesn't mean I can't be pleased that fees aren't being re-introduced.

College Fees Scrapped

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