English or American comedy?

TPD · 09-10-2009 07:46PM

deman wrote: »

Oh and btw... British Comedy all the way.... all you gotta do is think Blackadder.

Can't believe I forgot Blackadder.

wudangclan · 09-10-2009 07:47PM

deman wrote: »

Not true. It's a very common misconception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted

Oh and btw... British Comedy all the way.... all you gotta do is think Blackadder.

made in ireland,written by irish writers,starring irish actors and with an ethos entirely irish.
of course it's british.

Leprachaun · 09-10-2009 07:48PM

deman wrote: »

Not true. It's a very common misconception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted

Oh and btw... British Comedy all the way.... all you gotta do is think Blackadder.

That doesn't make him wrong. The fact it was commisioned by a british station and shown first on british tv in itself makes it a british show. Filming locations,actors and writers have nothing to do with country of origin. It'd be stupid to thing they did,because what if it had lots of different nationalities working on the show? Would it be 1/10th swiss,1/4 afgan etc...?

deman · 09-10-2009 07:53PM

Leprachaun wrote: »

That doesn't make him wrong. The fact it was commisioned by a british station and shown first on british tv in itself makes it a british show. Filming locations,actors and writers have nothing to do with country of origin. It'd be stupid to thing they did,because what if it had lots of different nationalities working on the show? Would it be 1/10th swiss,1/4 afgan etc...?

He claims it was turned down by Irish productions companies and it wasn't. So in fact, he is wrong.

And the argument about whether Father Ted is Irish or British.... why can't it be seen as a joint venture between British producers and Irish writers and actors. (Baffles me sometimes on the logic of some people.) Therefore Father Ted is British/Irish.

themont85 · 09-10-2009 07:53PM

The Brits do the better sitcoms overall, a lot of the American ones just follow the same lazy formula with the same central cheap ass set-a couch with the stairs behind it. And the jokes can be just cringe.

Shows like The Simpsons(in its Prime) and South Park really beef of the overall quality of US comedy.

Stand up for both is mixed.

Americans can make good comedy within a drama which can be serious or not. The West Wing, The Wire and dozens more had great little bits thrown in to them which make you laugh.

Lirange · 09-10-2009 07:54PM

Leprachaun wrote: »

That doesn't make him wrong. The fact it was commisioned by a british station and shown first on british tv in itself makes it a british show. Filming locations,actors and writers have nothing to do with country of origin.

The more relevant question for this topic: Is Father Ted English Humour? I tend to think not.

Leprachaun · 09-10-2009 07:57PM

deman wrote: »

He claims it was turned down by Irish productions companies and it wasn't. So in fact, he is wrong.

And the argument about whether Father Ted is Irish or British.... why can't it be seen as a joint venture between British producers and Irish writers and actors. (Baffles me sometimes on the logic of some people.) Therefore Father Ted is British/Irish.

It's not British/Irish. If there was one french guy working on the show would it british/irish/french? No,of course not. It's a british show with some irish writers/actors. I only said he wasn't wrong about it being an irish/english show,I wasn't talking about the whole getting turned down thing.

Television shows internationally have their country of origin defined by what country the network who commissions the show is from.

Filming locations depend on what kind of set they want. Actors and writers depend on talent. Neither have anything to do with the country of origin of a program.

MrVestek · 09-10-2009 07:59PM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Father Ted.

I hate to tell you this but father ted was an english production filmed in ireland broadcast originally on channel 4. Rte was offered it and they turned it down. Idiots.

Degag · 09-10-2009 08:08PM

Did anybody mention Fraiser? Fecking classic sitcom.

SV · 09-10-2009 08:09PM

Degag wrote: »

Did anybody mention Fraiser? Fecking classic sitcom.

Pity it's not funny..

MrVestek · 09-10-2009 08:12PM

deman wrote: »

Not true. It's a very common misconception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted

Oh and btw... British Comedy all the way.... all you gotta do is think Blackadder.

Ah wikipedia, the social website where anyone can edit the article before pasting a link to it in ah. Well done you! ;-)

Davidius · 09-10-2009 08:18PM

Father Ted is essentially an Irish comedy to me what with it being written by two Irish lads, using Irish actors and based arond the lives of priests in Ireland.

I don't give two ****s if brits paid for it, the humour is Irish enough. Not that it makes much a difference because they're close enough to effectively be the same.

Iomega Man · 09-10-2009 08:20PM

Why,Oh why does EVERY American Comedy(Film) involve somebody hitting their head..!!!!!!!

ROM-COMs,I'm looking at you...

OPENROAD · 09-10-2009 08:23PM

No competition imo, English comedy all the way.

Degag · 09-10-2009 08:27PM

SV wrote: »

Pity it's not funny..

Did you ever actually watch it?

SV · 09-10-2009 08:29PM

Degag wrote: »

Did you ever actually watch it?

loads of times.
I TRIED to like it..but...no

wudangclan · 09-10-2009 08:29PM

Degag wrote: »

Did you ever actually watch it?

it took me a long time to warm up to it but i'm starting to get into it recently.
clever,observational comedy.

Warfi · 09-10-2009 08:35PM

wudangclan wrote: »

clever,observational comedy.

I love the episode where Laurie Metcalfe (who plays a childrens entertainer) says to Frasier 'Can you imagine playing the same character for twenty years?':pac:

candy-gal1 · 09-10-2009 08:37PM

depends on the movie tbh, its like choosing between jim carrey or mr bean!

Leprachaun · 09-10-2009 09:20PM

candy-gal1 wrote: »

depends on the movie tbh, its like choosing between jim carrey or mr bean!

Yeh,cos that would be SO hard....

Jim carrey isn't funny. He plays the same character in every bloody movie. It worked pretty well in the mask but thats about it.

Professey Chin · 09-10-2009 10:04PM

Achilles wrote: »

I hate to tell you this but father ted was an english production filmed in ireland broadcast originally on channel 4. Rte was offered it and they turned it down. Idiots.

Read up a few posts......

-Leelo- · 09-10-2009 10:07PM

UK has the best stand ups - Ricky Gervais, Michael McIntyre, Billy Connolly, Jimmy Carr etc.
US has some great shows, Family guy, Fraiser, Seinfeld. Friends is over rated though!

wudangclan · 09-10-2009 10:11PM

US has some great standups; richard pryor,eddie murphy,bill hicks etc.
UK has some great shows; blackadder,fawlty towers,red dwarf...the might boosh is over-rated though!

mud · 09-10-2009 10:58PM

tinner777 wrote: »

also vic and bob, masters

can't believe it took 50 replies to mention the greatest!

ejmaztec · 09-10-2009 11:09PM

Adam Sandler's another one who's not funny, in fact he's sh1te, and all his movies are sh1te.

ScumLord · 09-10-2009 11:17PM

Leprachaun wrote: »

Yeh,cos that would be SO hard....

Jim carrey isn't funny. He plays the same character in every bloody movie. It worked pretty well in the mask but thats about it.

In fairness it was funny the first few times, he did some pretty decent serious films it's just so hard to take him seriously based on the films he was in.

brummytom · 09-10-2009 11:21PM

Degag wrote: »

Did anybody mention Fraiser? Fecking classic sitcom.

+1..
Great, decent, witty, intelligent comedy with a hint of slapstick and a slight English feel.

Niles was hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hERoXPFSQwM

K4t · 09-10-2009 11:48PM

The Perfect Drug wrote: »

British. Alan Partridge, Brass Eye, The Day Today, Big Train, Spaced, Black Books, The Fast Show, Garth Marenghi, Monty Python, Armando Iannuci...

Could probably go on for a while.

American. Curb Your Enthuasiasm, Fraiser, M*A*S*H, Friends, Scrubs, Arrested Development.......Simpsons, Southpark, Family Guy......

In All Fairness · 09-10-2009 11:51PM

brummytom wrote: »

+1..
Great, decent, witty, intelligent comedy with a hint of slapstick and a slight English feel.

Niles was hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hERoXPFSQwM

Brilliant mate. You woldn't have a link to the scenewhere he accidentally handcuffs himself to the sripper and then can't help the lady from next door,that he fancies, whe she drops her shopping? Not a word of dialogue. Just Frasier's character and Grammar's acting ability. Genius.

Btw, how in God's name has no-one mentioned Woody Allen yet ?:(

Brilliant stand-up. Superb writer for both Radio and film. If I was to name my top twenty comedy films there would prob be four or five Woody Allens.

TheBastard · 10-10-2009 12:06AM

English comedy i think is more suited to Irish viewers. Think along the lines of Fawlty Towers / The Inbetweeners / The offce... really smart stuff. You could class Father ted as British comedy with the channel 4 connection. there has been good american comedy- But most of it is ****

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