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blaming the roads

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    BVB wrote: »
    The Roads are fine .

    Its just bad driving pothole.JPG

    looking at the angle of the car .... the driver must have magically driven throuh the pole on the right ... or been dropped from a plane above..... Photoshop is not your friend. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer



    Fuhrer you are wrong, simple as.

    No, im right.


    Its increadibly simple to see why but simple seems to describe you rather than the point. So we could be here for some time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    looking at the angle of the car .... the driver must have magically driven throuh the pole on the right ... or been dropped from a plane above..... Photoshop is not your friend. :D

    OR

    car drives in hole . Woman opens door quick causing water to rush in one side of the car which would cause the car to turn on it way to its watery death .


    OR
    the same as you said .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Smart Bug wrote: »
    Get in your car (presuming you can drive (if not I don't really think you can comment on accidents/bad roads)) and head down to, um, random county? Kilkenny. Possibly the worst roads in the country.

    Seriously, if you can't figure out the correlation between our fukkin awful roads and road deaths there's something wrong with you. Look at the article you quoted ffs, 3 crashes on a narrow road with her garden alongside it? C'mon man, apply a little intelligence here.

    I have driven on a lot of the roads in this country and in my experience I do believe its a combination of the roads AND TERRIBLE DRIVERS.

    we dont teach how to actually drive in difficult situations in this country...or what to do if a tyre blows out, for feck sake we dont even test how to drive at night or on a motorway.

    A LOT of the bad drivers in this country are people that were allowed to buy their licences in the 1980's and their spawn (most people learn from their parents instead of a qualified instructor)

    I passed my test first time - several years ago.....I'm glad that the government are making changes to the driving test procedures but dont think its enough.

    Every child should be taught basic first aid, car mechanics and have excellent knowledge of road signs/signals and observations on the road - look how many cyclists have been killed on the roads recently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    we dont teach how to actually drive in difficult situations in this country...or what to do if a tyre blows out, for feck sake we dont even test how to drive at night or on a motorway.
    Forget blow outs, add a moderate rain shower and many drivers have trouble getting through my local shopping centre car park without doing something dangerous...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Theres a lot of idiots on Irish roads.... are standered of driving is pretty CRAP....

    Living in meath go down any back road its imposible to enjoy a high spritted cut through countrys at night cuase the roads are just crap... pot holes where a smal car could get stuck in one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Forget blow outs, add a moderate rain shower and many drivers have trouble getting through my local shopping centre car park without doing something dangerous...

    exactly my point !

    for the last couple of hours I was driving around (a friend needed some help - and I have a car :D) Anyway... the amount of illegal parking, bad driving and downright ignorance on the roads is unbelievable, Don't get me wrong I'm not a holier than thou .... I've been extremely ignorant on the roads at times and have parked illegally and will do so in the future - what I'm saying is that its so common place that its regarded as normal driving these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    When will people admit they are bad drivers ..... always blaming the roads...heaven forbid that IF we ever upgrade all the roads who will get the blame for these types of crashes.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/lucky-escape-for-brothers-at-play-1894933.html
    So the entire basis of your argument is on this article where we arent told anything about the road except that it has a repeat history of driver incidents, along with a group of residents who live on the road and deal with it often 2 to 3 times a day who all say the road is defunct, and you somehow feel that the conditions on the road have no bearing on the situation?

    Im not saying drivers are blameless but if you think roads are blameless then you should go drive down a few of them sometime and have a good think about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    Then, once you make it through Athy, there are some fcuking terrible bends in the road, before you make it to Castlecomer. Try a few back roads around there. I'm surprised I'm still alive!!!

    Is the problem bends, or potholes. Because it is bends then you drive slowly. i have taken that road and am not aware of potholes on it. It is a squirrely windy road. driving at the posted speed limit is dangerous is many cases on that road except for good drivers - but Irish people think that a road limit is a challenge, rather than a limit.

    All country roads, across all countries, have bends. They follow old routeways. That road is being replaced ( or has been replaced already for all I know) by a motorway to Kilkenny.

    For people who have to drive country roads. Dont drive them as if they were motorways, or dual carriageways, even if the speed limit is the same.

    ( It is true that some of these are N roads - which is absurd - but once the Motorways are finished we can end that absurdity).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    If you ride bikes you'll realise how bad the roads are...

    And also roadworks here take forever to complete.
    I don't get it why it takes months to just lay down a new road!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭P.C.


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    I suggest the OP tries riding a motorcycle on Irish roads before commenting on the state of them, they are an absolute disgrace. On any given day I come across huge potholes, oil / diesel spills, patches of gravel on corners and roundabouts, smooth manhole covers on corners that are as slippy as ice when it rains, muck and sh1te left on the roads by farmers and loose chippings left by the council on resurfaced roads :mad:

    I agree with you...

    BUT, in the few hundred (more like thousand by now) miles that I have riden with you, I have heard you moan about the roads, but not once blame the road conditions for your bad riding. :eek:

    I don't mean that you ride bad, I mean that when you make a mistake (which we all do every now and then), you don't blame the roads.


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