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Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

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  • #992
    Seanohea
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    Pricewise in the paper could be showing a small loss over a 3 month period, but can easily cancel that out with 20/1 and 16/1 winners in the space of a week, thats the way he does it. Pw extra is easier for tom segal though, he has the choice of so many races in the day, where as with pricewise tips in the paper he has to decide on his tips the night before with factors such as ground conditions and draw bias not being 100% certain while also having to focus on the bigger races of the day


  • #993
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Segals paper tips can be found
    here, the page is usually updated by 9 am, often earlier.


  • #994
    fintonie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭fintonie


    well done guys good to see yis winning a few bob long may it last


  • #995
    mike65
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    4.10 Hamilton Sanctuary 13/2


  • #996
    Seanohea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Seanohea


    pricewise in the paper tip- Eton Rifles 2.40 Hamilton


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  • #997
    POINTBREAK
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    wireless101 wrote: »
    Because I tracked all his bets for a 3 month period about 2 years ago and he showed a loss. These were not PWE though.

    All tipsters have form, just like horses, so I wouldn't get too caught up in it now, just because he has had a good week.

    I can see your point and it is true they do tend to have winning streaks and losing streaks but there is no doubt that Segal knows more about racing than any of them. If there is anyone better I would love to know who it is. A friend of mine subscribed to Heny Rix (who used to be Pricewise) a few years ago and Henry went 6 weeks without a winner but then gave a 50/1 winner Master Robbie. It doesnt suit every gambler because you need the decipline to only have 2 or 3 bets a week and a 40 or 50 point bank to protect against varience.


  • #998
    trader666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭trader666


    scantuary 8/1 safely secured at hills now trading at 6/1 @6.8 betfair...
    licene to print mo-honey again


  • #999
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    trader666 wrote: »
    scantuary 8/1 safely secured at hills now trading at 6/1 @6.8 betfair...
    licene to print mo-honey again

    Minor miracle getting 8/1 from Hills after 11-40. It wasnt even 8/1 on betfair at that time.


  • #1000
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    Pricewise Extra Update
    September
    27 losers
    5 winners (5/1 -7/2)+(7/1 -5/1)+(7/2 -4/1)
    (7/1-7/2) (13/2-9/2)
    Profit/Loss@ SP Minus 5.5 Points
    Profit/Loss@Advised PricePLUS 3.5 Points
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  • #1001
    POINTBREAK
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    PriceWise Tom Segal
    SEPTEMBER

    18 BETS
    5 WINNERS (22/1 -14/1) (4/1-3/1) (33/1-18/1)(16/1-8/1)(4/1-6/4)
    Profit/Loss @ Advised Prices +75     Points
    Profit/Loss @ SP_________ +30.5     Points


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  • #1002
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    2.50 Leicester - Athaakeel 10/1
    4.00 Kempton - Ottoman Empire 3.25/1


  • #1003
    TheRock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭TheRock


    Apologies if this is already covered in the thread, but tldr:o

    Could someone please give me a summary of the difference between Pricewise and Pricewise extra?
    Is there a subscription for PWE?
    Anyone know of anywhere you can get the pricewise stats for the year?


  • #1004
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Pricewise is the paper tips (anyone got them for today?) and Extra are the RP website selections that are posted around midday.

    The Tom Segals picks are at the major meets on the weekend or in big weekday events.

    I don't have any stats for the year.


  • #1005
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    mike65 wrote: »
    Pricewise is the paper tips (anyone got them for today?) and Extra are the RP website selections that are posted around midday.

    The Tom Segals picks are at the major meets on the weekend or in big weekday events.

    I don't have any stats for the year.

    I dont think that is correct Mike. My understanding is that Pricewise is written by Tom Segal. When he has selections, the index at the front of the paper says Pricewise and gives the page. The daily tips in the paper are never listed in the index as Pricewise unless they are given by Tom Segal.


  • #1006
    boccy23
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    mike65 wrote: »
    Pricewise is the paper tips (anyone got them for today?) and Extra are the RP website selections that are posted around midday.

    The Tom Segals picks are at the major meets on the weekend or in big weekday events.

    I don't have any stats for the year.

    Oddly Mark Winstanley also picked Ottoman Empire. He put it up when it won it's maiden last month.

    Other is 2:20 Leic Quaker Parrot. 2pts win.


  • #1007
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    boccy23 wrote: »
    Oddly Mark Winstanley also picked Ottoman Empire. He put it up when it won it's maiden last month.

    Other is 2:20 Leic Quaker Parrot. 2pts win.

    Are these two Mark Winstanleys tips and not Pricewise tips?


  • #1008
    mike65
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    POINTBREAK wrote: »
    I dont think that is correct Mike. My understanding is that Pricewise is written by Tom Segal. When he has selections, the index at the front of the paper says Pricewise and gives the page. The daily tips in the paper are never listed in the index as Pricewise unless they are given by Tom Segal.

    Oh fair enough.


  • #1009
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    Pricewise Extra Update
    September
    29 losers
    5 winners (5/1 -7/2)+(7/1 -5/1)+(7/2 -4/1)
    (7/1-7/2) (13/2-9/2)
    Profit/Loss@ SP Minus 4.5 Points
    Profit/Loss@Advised PricePLUS 2.5 Points


  • #1010
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Stratford 4.40 - War Of The World 5/1

    more may follow .


  • #1011
    POINTBREAK
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    Non Runner


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  • #1012
    POINTBREAK
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    I assume it was 2 losers today from PWE?


  • #1013
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    No idea, I'll check later. Yep both lost
    REDCAR 4:00 Bosamcliff @ 14/1 (GP)
    GOODWOOD 3:45 Fanjura @ 15/2 (GP)


  • #1014
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    Pricewise Extra Update
    September
    31 losers
    5 winners (5/1 -7/2)+(7/1 -5/1)+(7/2 -4/1)
    (7/1-7/2) (13/2-9/2)
    Profit/Loss@ SP Minus 6.5 Points
    Profit/Loss@Advised PricePLUS .5 Points


  • #1015
    mike65
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    5.00 Pontefract - Princess Flame 13/2

    another might follow


  • #1016
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    Pricewise Extra Update
    September
    32 losers
    5 winners (5/1 -7/2)+(7/1 -5/1)+(7/2 -4/1)
    (7/1-7/2) (13/2-9/2)
    Profit/Loss@ SP Minus 7.5 Points
    Profit/Loss@Advised Price Minus .5 Points

    Only 6 days to the end of the month and they have claimed a profit every month in the last 6 I think. It will be interesting to see if they start going for shorter prices.


  • #1017
    mike65
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    Gonna have to change the name of this thread. Still Tom Segal will have a few picks tomorrow from Ascot I imagine.


  • #1018
    boccy23
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    Be wary Mike. Tom has stated on numerous occasions that he hates the new Ascot and his record would back this up.


  • #1019
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    boccy23 wrote: »
    Be wary Mike. Tom has stated on numerous occasions that he hates the new Ascot and his record would back this up.
    I didnt know that Boccy. I must get the paper tomorrow to see what he says about it. I am glad I am not following PWE. I wonder at the logic of it. I mean if they advise a horse at 14/1, can it still be value at 8/1? I noticed that in quite a few of the races they tip in the favourite wins and since there is invariably a flood of money for their selection, does that mean that the favourite becomes the value bet in the race because it must be a better price that it would have been if the money hadnt come for the PWE horse..


  • #1020
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The paper tips by Matt Williams

    Ascot 2.35 Enact 1 point win
    Ascor 3.45 Polly Mark 2 point win


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  • #1021
    mike65
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    2.00 Ascot - Amanjena 17/1
    5.05 Haydock - Entreat 4/1

    I think, check back in a minute ot two.

    Yep these two are moving quickly in the most bet.


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