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So apparently Ireland is Communist and thats why you fail

  • 16-09-2009 02:57PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭


    http://consumerist.com/5360389/coke-ceo-soda-taxes-are-communist-conspiracy-to-sap-our-precious-bodily-fluids
    Coca-Cola CEO Muhtar Kent has lashed out at a proposed federal tax on soda as "outrageous" and something akin to the policies that landed former Communist regimes in the dustbin of history. "I have never seen it work where a government tells people what to eat and what to drink," he said. "If it worked, the Soviet Union would still be around."

    Kent's statement was in response to comments by President Barack Obama in the latest issue of Men's Health magazine. When asked about taxing soft drinks, the President answered that ‘‘I actually think it's an idea that we should be exploring There's. no doubt that our kids drink way too much soda."


    While the U.S. government has, in fact, told consumers what to eat or drink, through everything from prohibition to agricultural subsidies (not to mention the venerable food pyramid), it seems unlikely that a national soft-drink tax will be enacted any time soon. Even local efforts, such as one proposed earlier this year by New York Governor David Paterson, have faced stiff opposition (in Paterson's case, that included a threat by New York-based Pepsico to leave the state if the tax was passed).


    We do understand why Comrade Kent is concerned with Soviet-era food policies. After all, it was a backroom deal between Nixon and Khrushchev that got Pepsi into the Soviet market in the 1970s, forcing Coke to wait until the 1980s to compete. When Coke finally became available in Russia and other parts of Eastern Europe, the cadre of executives that helped bring it to the masses was led by none other than Muhtar Kent. Under the same circumstances, we might grow to resent the policies that allowed the competition to get a foothold so much earlier. Resentment could turn to obsession. And then, well, before you know it, you're scrawling acronyms on scraps of paper and grumbling about fluoridation. And we all know where that leads.
    How are you today Comrades?

    /the over-reaction over here is delicious - they should tax it.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    You say Comunist like it's a bad thing :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    You say Comunist like it's a bad thing :confused:
    ...Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭bonerjams03


    Where does Ireland come into this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Yes finally it's arrived. Time to wipe out my opponents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    thread fail


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    You say Comunist like it's a bad thing :confused:

    psst... he's American! The Commies hate America & Freedom and everything in between :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    You say Comunist like it's a bad thing :confused:

    you say that like it isnt :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    IRcolm wrote: »
    Where does Ireland come into this?
    We must have accidentally bought the US on Ebay, no wonder we're broke. :(


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    In Soviet Ireland, thread fails you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    IRcolm wrote: »
    Where does Ireland come into this?

    i don't understand either, food is exempt from tax in ireland as is exports, medical services, childrens clothing, insurance and banking services, and fertilizers


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I'm just taxed about this whole thread! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Ehh what Overheal. You have us all a little puzzled sir. Fill us in please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    either he's confusing European union with Soviet union or he thinks Ireland is in eastern Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    I for one welcome our new Overheal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    clown bag wrote: »
    either he's confusing European union with Soviet union or he thinks Ireland is in eastern Europe.

    He's caught usgeographobia, a disorder brought on by a blow to the head, followed by the first symptom, the belief that Paris is in Mexico. After that, the symptoms get much worse, and it becomes incurable when the victim starts to believe that Ireland is in Moscow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    .......we drink Coke or because we bottle it?


    Personally I'm a Communist because I believe in an egalitarian, classless and stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general, not because I enjoy a certain popular carbonated soft drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Yo Overheal..

    I'm happy for you, I'm gonna let you finish But we don't have a national soft drink tax or communism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭You Suck!


    control of the means of production and property in general
    Which means control of the people otherwise they won't co-operate.....they never do. Centralized economys are an ugly ugly business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    Yo Overheal..

    I'm happy for you, I'm gonna let you finish But we don't have a national soft drink tax or communism.

    Ireland has imposed and withdrawn their taxes on soft drinks, and is the one most quoted when researchers speak on the subject. In some states in the US, there is already a tax on recyclable soft drink products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Reindeer wrote: »
    Ireland has imposed and withdrawn their taxes on soft drinks, and is the one most quoted when researchers speak on the subject. In some states in the US, there is already a tax on recyclable soft drink products.
    Piss? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Typical Yank. Wade in, make a big fuss, brash statements and then feck off without quantifying what he said. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭QOTSA90


    Lads, Im lost. Is it possible that its too late?... in AH!? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Piss? :confused:

    Yeh, most don't recall it since it was a while back. The States that do tax soft drinks do it in a roundabout way usually, though - and not directly on the drink itself. Only fast food soft drinks may be taxed directly, if I recall. That is usually at the state sales tax rate which can vary between 5-9pct ish. In markets it is considered a food product, and not taxed at all.

    However, as it stands, our soft drink tax is at 21pct. Unlike the US where taxes are required to be plainly stated and added only after the sales price is made clear - ours aren't. As a result, few Irish realise exactly how much taxes they actually pay, all considered.

    If you buy a car with a 2.5 litre engine, you pay upwards of 58pct taxes on it. Then it's another grand or more a year road taxes. The same car in America cost nearly half as much to start, and then rarely more than 70-400USD a year in road/reg taxes, depending on the state.

    Petrol taxes are enormous, totaling more than the original cost of the petrol itself, and now we will see another 8pct added(the second or third increase in the last decade, if I recall).

    Be aware that the gov often hit us with both excise taxes and VAT on a products. These add up quickly.

    All in all, we are one of the more heavily taxed countries in the world. So a soda tax shouldn't really be a surprise, nor should far less taxed countries labeling us communist surprise you.

    What does this mean? It means you don't get to keep much of what you earn. It simply goes to someone else that doesn't make as much as you after the government wastes it on limousines etc. It also creates inflated rent, leases and property prices, amongst other things. As long as we give it, the government will be more than happy to take it. And, as I stated, not knowing how much taxes we pay hinders the knowledge we need to spark reprisals; whether at the vote or in the streets.

    There's far more sheep in Ireland than people know...

    As an aside, part of the Lisbon treaty[ies] also sought to rectify the discrepancies in tax rates amongst EU countries. We would only benefit from such treatment. Food for thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    This thread fails


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Most pointless thread of the year. Pepsi addling your thoughts, OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    He's caught usgeographobia, a disorder brought on by a blow to the head, followed by the first symptom, the belief that Paris is in Mexico. After that, the symptoms get much worse, and it becomes incurable when the victim starts to believe that Ireland is in Moscow.

    You were able to call this mental disorder absolutely anything you liked, and you went with -phobia, which any fool knows means a fear disorder. Bravo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭DamoDLK


    Geography.. has FAILED you me boy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    20% tax on Overheal threads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Kipperhell


    Reindeer wrote: »
    Ireland has imposed and withdrawn their taxes on soft drinks, and is the one most quoted when researchers speak on the subject. In some states in the US, there is already a tax on recyclable soft drink products.

    I am not sure that is true. There was a tax on soft drinks in Ireland that had some connection to the Boar War (sp?) that the state "forgot" about. When they decided to remove the tax they simply replaced it with another tax. I think it happened in the early 90s but can't remember the details.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Overheal wrote: »

    How are you today Comrades?

    I'll tell you after the daily Vodka delivery.


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