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What's the point of crying?

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  • #32
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Karl Hungus wrote: »
    Does everything human have to have a point?
    In my view yes, evolution means that everything that happens in the body does so for a reason (even if we cannot find that reason easily).
    I would guess that crying is a signal, like yawning, and developed before speech.


  • #33
    scottledeuce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭scottledeuce


    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    We all know you're just fapping!
    :pac:
    stepbar wrote: »
    A cry fap?

    A crank...


    In addition it is normal to include ones own tears as lubricant.


  • #34
    buckieburd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭buckieburd


    Nipple are developed in the womb in both sexes but are useless to men.

    Your funny bone hurts when you hit it becuase your Ulnar Nerve runs over it.

    Crying? It's for women to get their own way as far as I can see :p


  • #35
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    liah wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I love crying if I'm upset and have things pent up, it is a wonderful release and makes me feel a lot better.

    But I still don't understand why we evolved to cry. There's a reason for most of the physical reactions people produce, but generating tears? Other than to get stuff out of your eyes it's kind of pointless, and that's not the purpose of crying when one is upset.

    I'd take a guess and say that you're either an agnostic or an atheist. To people who believe in God, crying is no more abnormal than wanting John Wayne or Luke Skywalker to win.

    Edit: Have replied to above post, if aalready addressed further in thread, then apologies, but sometimes better to get a visceral reply before commonsense takes over.


  • #36
    pikachucheeks
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    In All Fairness wrote: »
    I'd take a guess and say that you're either an agnostic or an atheist. To people who believe in God, crying is no more abnormal than wanting John Wayne or Luke Skywalker to win.

    I'm quite confused by what you mean there...

    What I got from it was "If you believe in God, you'll consider crying normal. Where as Atheists might not. "

    And to be perfectly honest, that sounds a bit a mad! I'm not sure I understand the link between matters of Faith and crying...


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  • #37
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    why do men have nipples?

    Without them we'd be even more self conscious of our man bewbs.


  • #38
    wudangclan
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    crying is possibly something that evolved as a means of communication prior to the devolpment of vocal communication.
    a child will cry to indicate discomfort or hunger and adult will cry to elicit support or sympathy from thier peers.
    in adults crying will also relieve stress.emotional tears contain manganese and prolactin.crying out these chemicals relieve tension making the crier feel better.


  • #39
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    We all know you're just fapping!
    :pac:

    That is a scurrilous and ill-informed remark, young lady. While I would expect nothing better from some posters, I would have thought that you would see a Kleenex as a misunderstood Cheesemaker's cry for help. I will buy you that Muslin strainer Orestes. Don't do it.:)


  • #40
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    bronte wrote: »
    They do something, and I'm determined to find out what it is. :eek:

    Make blokes think you have a soft side?

    *runs*


  • #41
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    My o/h and kids use crying very effectivly to get there own way on many things relating from lunch money(for the wife) and watching emerdale(for the kids) or is that the other way around.

    Me on the other hand. I just do what i am told!

    Lunch money and Emmerdale are rewards for good behaviour in a two way system. The absence of rewards are a direct consequence of bad behaviour in a two way system.

    You shouldn't give your kids sweets to stop a tantrum anymore than you should slap them. A simple look is usually enough from either parent, once the child knows exactly where the line is.

    *gives nephew/niece understanding/money and undermines parent*


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  • #42
    liah
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    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    I'm quite confused by what you mean there...

    What I got from it was "If you believe in God, you'll consider crying normal. Where as Atheists might not. "

    And to be perfectly honest, that sounds a bit a mad! I'm not sure I understand the link between matters of Faith and crying...

    Well, people with faith wouldn't need a reason for crying, they'd just accept it.

    Yeah, I'm an atheist. I like having answers.


  • #43
    fintonie
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    there was a time when we did not speak and crying was a way to show pain or fear.

    as we have evolved it is now used to make men feel bad when winning the odd argument


  • #44
    JTER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭JTER


    The sorrow which has no vent in tears may make other organs weep. ~Henry Maudsley - English Psychiatrist

    probably helps explain why women live longer than men. Our macho image costs us in the long run!


  • #45
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    I'm quite confused by what you mean there...

    What I got from it was "If you believe in God, you'll consider crying normal. Where as Atheists might not. "

    And to be perfectly honest, that sounds a bit a mad! I'm not sure I understand the link between matters of Faith and crying...

    Sorry. My point was that we live in a society where we are both encouraged to believe in integrity, yet seen as weak stupid/unstreetwise people if we actually do believe in it. Crying, often happens, where the truth of who we are is confused.

    Jaysus, that sounds drunk to me. And I'm drunk.:)

    I'll refer you to Jakkass. He's not half as objectionable,indeed without that Bible/ Albatross around his neck, he'd nearly be a man of God.:)


  • #46
    liah
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    In All Fairness wrote: »
    Sorry. My point was that we live in a society where we are both encouraged to believe in integrity, yet seen as weak stupid/unstreetwise people if we actually do believe in it. Crying, often happens, where the truth of who we are is confused.

    Jaysus, that sounds drunk to me. And I'm drunk.:)

    I'll refer you to Jakkass. He's not half as objectionable,indeed without that Bible/ Albatross around his neck, he'd nearly be a man of God.:)

    I don't think I've ever seen you post not drunk.. And it's a Wednesday morning. :eek:

    Though you made a ridiculously good point in your first paragraph, even if it isn't hugely relevant to the question I asked (which I now feel silly for asking, considering if I'd actually thought about it before I posted, I would've come to the visual communication conclusion fairly quickly.. damn lack of sleep!)


  • #47
    In All Fairness
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    liah wrote: »
    Well, people with faith wouldn't need a reason for crying, they'd just accept it.

    Yeah, I'm an atheist. I like having answers.

    I'm a theist. I like having answers too.:cool:

    My love for "Yore Ma" stems from your super I.R.A. story, not from any belief that she could be of any use to me in the future.

    I love her values/innocence and in a secular capitalist society, these are things I should deride and take advantage of, if I was any sort of a man at all.

    But of course I'm no scientician.:P


  • #48
    liah
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    In All Fairness wrote: »
    I'm a theist. I like having answers too.:cool:

    My love for "Yore Ma" stems from your super I.R.A. story, not from any belief that she could be of any use to me in the future.

    I love her values/innocence and in a secular capitalist society, these are things I should deride and take advantage of, if I was any sort of a man at all.

    But of course I'm no scientician.:P

    If you're talking about my post about my mom, jesus I made that some time ago.. and yeah, she's a real innocent one, which is surprising given her history.

    Otherwise, I don't understand a single word of what you just wrote. :pac:


  • #49
    In All Fairness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    liah wrote: »
    If you're talking about my post about my mom, jesus I made that some time ago.. and yeah, she's a real innocent one, which is surprising given her history.

    Otherwise, I don't understand a single word of what you just wrote. :pac:

    I think you're misunderstanding deliberately. Look back at that post (post of the year imho) and look at the people who thanked it, who understood it, and have the same parents. It was beautiful and made me think of what is great about being Irish.

    It's about believing that we were,are and could be better.

    Nobody told "Yore Ma" that he was talkin' ****e. And that was for her sake as much as his, because they were both happier believing in Santa for those two hours.

    And yes I am usually drunk when I post, but they're barely puttin' it to bed in Nova Scotia.


  • #50
    Prof.Badass
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    Karl Hungus wrote: »
    Does everything human have to have a point? We're not exactly machines with streamlined function and form, there's lots of strange and funky aspects of the human body that don't particularly make a huge lick of sense.

    I mean, the funny bone. What the hell does that do, except cause excrutiating pain when you bonk it against something?

    Or for that matter, the appendix, which just randomly kills you!

    The funny bone helps you move your arm. Afaik the appendix used to be used for digesting either bones or heavy foliage (not sure) but has now lost it's function.

    Crying evolved in children to signal to the older members of the group that they are in distress.

    This behaviour is generally lost as one grows older, although in times of extreme distress an adult may temporarily regress psychologically and begin crying. When someone cries they are signalling that they completely submit towards the person the crying is directed at (it could be the whole group) and want to be comforted by them. For this reason men are typically less likely to cry than women.

    Sometimes people may cry alone for the release it gives them, just like people **** alone for the pleasure it gives them. In both these cases the person is a hijacking the original mechanism which evolved for a specific purpose.

    Crying has nothing to do with pain. Have you never noticed a child hurting themselves, not really crying and then bursting into tears when an adult they know appears?


  • #51
    ScumLord
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    It's allows us to spot weak people and expunge them from the pack.


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  • #52
    fintonie
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    we performed a study on kids and crying,

    we would hit them accross the face to see there reaction,

    at the end of the trial our findings were that red head kids were very extravagant in there reactions, tending to flail all over the place screaming and bawling.

    where as blond kids tended to look at you with the is that all you got pal.

    the study shows it was mostly red heads on the earth at first,

    so they have a tendency to over react as the chemicals in the brain release quicker.


  • #53
    In All Fairness
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    liah wrote: »
    I don't think I've ever seen you post not drunk.. And it's a Wednesday morning. :eek:

    Though you made a ridiculously good point in your first paragraph, even if it isn't hugely relevant to the question I asked (which I now feel silly for asking, considering if I'd actually thought about it before I posted, I would've come to the visual communication conclusion fairly quickly.. damn lack of sleep!)

    It's only the shank of Tuesday night in Canada. Keep it global.;)

    You can't start a sentence with "although" without rebutting a point.

    *shakes head disappointedly at the pride of the Canadian education system*:P


  • #54
    liah
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    In All Fairness wrote: »
    It's only the shank of Tuesday night in Canada. Keep it global.;)

    You can't start a sentence with "although" without rebutting a point.

    *shakes head disappointedly at the pride of the Canadian education system*:P

    I said though, as in "you're drunk, though you made a decent point."

    Suppose I should be doing the headshaking!


  • #55
    TPD
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    I remember hearing they were antiseptic. Probably BS though.


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