HOLY S**T. Did anyone just see Darren Brown predict the uk lotto numbers ????

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Just watched it. Here's my two cents


Look at the balls after he turns them around.

Look at the stand closely. The numbers are not written on the balls,they are written on the stand.

The stand probably has a wire attached to it,and a person with a button at the other end.

The person can press the button to get the number to flip over to the one he wants. Similar to an alarm clock mechanism.

Take a good look at the numbers at the end, they are not on the balls, they are on the stand.

He moves the balls at the end and the numbers move too.

adrieanne__x wrote: »

Derrens twitter, apparently the numbers were flashed onto buildings across the UK at different times today...

I imagine that's the bit that took a year. It would be simple to flash every combination onto the buildings, it would just take a pretty long time.

m@cc@ wrote: »

If it was real, why not do it an hour or 5 minutes before the draw?

Because it's not real! Jesus christ people. The guy is an illusionist. We know he tricked us, the fun is in trying to figure it out.

Is this "no one fools me" an internet thing?

Not havin a go at you personally just seen so many of these posts over the last 12 hours.

ShooterSF wrote: »

Because it's not real! Jesus christ people. The guy is an illusionist. We know he tricked us, the fun is in trying to figure it out.

Is this "no one fools me" an internet thing?

Not havin a go at you personally just seen so many of these posts over the last 12 hours.

Lol, have you slept at all? I just had a metal image of you naked in a room writing formulas on the wall and pictures of the trick pasted everywhere mumbling away to yourself. :pac:

I just sent the video to one of my friends (who works in TV production - nice claim of authority ) who thinks the background is actually a curtain. He said he thinks it's probably a green screen with somebody dressed in green puting the numbers on the balls [I guess he must be suspended so he's not lower than the background? - my friend didn't clarify on this point].

While watching the video again I have to admit the background does look oddly flat. However, I also noticed that parts of the background are reflected on the floor so I doubt that's it - just thought I'd share it anyway.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

The people who say he's above camera trickery are the ones who don't know Derren Brown. I've watched him from the very start. He is a magician. Lying is part of the game.

Can nobody else see what I'm seeing? Seriously, please say if you do. The number 39 ball was rushed into place wonky, and it's higher than the rest. Ask yourself at what point the balls changed from perfectly straight, to wonky. The answer presents itself shortly after the final ball is announced. Watch the 39 ball closely, and see it 'rise' up as they crossfade the frozen split shot into the real shot.

The camera shake is fake - the camera is actually still. Proof of this can be seen when they switch the effect off right before Derren walks over to the balls. For about 1.5 seconds, the shot becomes PERFECTLY still. That's because they are ready to pick the camera up and resume the genuine hand held shot.

The problem I can see here is he is dedicating a show to explain how he tricked us. If it's camera trickery it will ruin the effect of every future trick he does on tv. There will be no curiosity as we'll just assume camera tricks.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

He won't reveal how it was really done. He'll lie (again) about memorising stats and all kinds of other bull****.

It's like when he says, "No actors or stooges are used in this show" - that cannot be true. It's like Penn Jillette says, "In magic, the technical term for this is called 'lying'.."

He's no more or less of a magician than anyone else - he just packages it up for a 21st century audience.

I've read his book and he could get me, a stoner who was very stoned at the time to memorise a list of words that I could repeat forwards and backwards for days afterwards. He can literally recall entire phone books worth of information off the top of his head, that's not bullpoop. The background knowledge he has on tricks of the mind make all the stuff he does at his stage shows very possible

dsmythy wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Hes not saying he's some sort of psychic. He'll explain how he did it on Friday and it won't be magical.

Here here!! Everytime I've seen him he always states that he's no psychic or even much of a magician, it's simply a trick and nothing else!!

Tellox wrote: »

It took a full year of his life - and in around 5:13 of the broadcast, he turns the live tv off, the motion gets a little funny (slower and faster), he stares at a spot on the ground and stands perfectly still there, while a clicking noise is heard as he walks on.

My bet - he pre-recorded not all, but millions of combinations over the past year. Probably gave himself a 1/3 - 1/2 chance of winning.

Doubt it, primarily because I doubt he'd pull a stunt like this with a chance of failing.

More imporantly I think it would be quite impossible (even if you went down as low as a 1 in 3 shot) - what would have been written on the card had he got the numbers wrong???

The footage after the "switch" lasts about 43 seconds.
As he writes down the winning numbers this means all six numbers have to be correct for this trick to work.
The total number of combinations are 54,910,614 (this is including the fact that the balls are in ascending order - had they been in the order they were drawn the total possibilities would have been 13,841,287,201).
So if he did a perfect take every time, and could record them end to end without any gap in between for 24 hours/day, 365 days/year it would have taken him almost 75 years to film all of the footage.
The number of actual recordings he could have made in a single year would have been paltry and the odds of him recording one that would be drawn on the night are paltry.

Then there's also the logistics of it, the stand would have to be repositioned exactly every single time and he would have to start with the same pose every single time and keep his appearence and the lighting etc. the same every single time.

No, as much as I liked the idea of this it's totally bunkum.

EDIT:
On the flip side if you give him 20 hours/day for 365 days and say the average time for the recorded footage was only 30 seconds and for the 20 hours/day he used it completely for footage (no prep, retakes etc.) he would still only manage to get 876,000 combinations, or a 1.6% chance of having recorded the correct combination.

The camera zooms in on the TV screen while the numbers are coming out and you can't see his "prediction". Would be easy for someone to just put the right balls on the stand while we are waiting for the bonus ball which he isn't predicting to come out.

Only realised this after watching it again on Youtube.