Eircom to block the Pirate Bay,

jaydoubleyoubee · 02-09-2009 04:03PM

meathawk wrote: »

premium rapidshare is the way forward.6 euro for a month and a massive daily limit.It's completely worth it.

Surely the whole point of online piracy is that it's free?.. It may be worth it, but why use it when you can get a similar and more manageable service for free, i.e. torrents. I think that rapidshare is a great idea for people that don't have or are not willing to learn simple computer skills in order to use torrents properly.

Bob_Harris · 02-09-2009 04:06PM

jaydoubleyoubee wrote: »

I think that rapidshare is a great idea for people that don't have or are not willing to learn simple computer skills in order to use torrents properly.

Hi-oooooooooooooooo

Why would I waste time "learning" how to use torrents. They are ****. Plain and simple. If the file is not popular, then you get **** speeds.

Also, the fact that you are participating in a torrent means you are sharing the file. Your IP address is there for all to see, and sharers are much more likely to be prosecuted in court if it was to ever get to that stage.

Rapidshare keep no record of your usage

jaydoubleyoubee · 02-09-2009 04:07PM

Bob_Harris wrote: »

You could use a selection of free proxies to allow you download multiple files at one time without an account.

A Rapidshare premium account is worth paying for.

Unfortunately free proxies are slow, and everyone else had this idea already, so most free proxies have their limit exceeded for rapidshare by the time you get it working.

jaydoubleyoubee · 02-09-2009 04:10PM

Bob_Harris wrote: »

Hi-oooooooooooooooo

Why would I waste time "learning" how to use torrents. They are ****. Plain and simple. If the file is not popular, then you get **** speeds.

Also, the fact that you are participating in a torrent means you are sharing the file. Your IP address is there for all to see, and sharers are much more likely to be prosecuted in court if it was to ever get to that stage.

Rapidshare keep no record of your usage

Not true... And I'm not really sure what kind of file you're talking about that wouldn't get decent speeds on a torrent. That is, if you took the time to learn how to configure a torrent client properly based on your ISP and router settings.

If rapidshare had an official reliable search engine and was free I would use it...

As i already said more than once it is very simple to mask your IP address on torrents without slowing them down BitBlinder, it's in beta but it's very easy to get a copy.

waitinforatrain · 02-09-2009 04:36PM

Listen everyone, the fact is that the IRMA dip****s seem to think that torrents are the main source of piracy on the net. If we could kindly shush about RS/Usenet we can keep that illusion up.

First rule of downloading club, don't talk about downloading club!

Kenno90 · 02-09-2009 04:36PM

meathawk wrote: »

premium rapidshare is the way forward.6 euro for a month and a massive daily limit.It's completely worth it.

you wouldn't might giving me your user name and password, please and thank you

:D

TPD · 02-09-2009 05:01PM

jaydoubleyoubee wrote: »

Not true... And I'm not really sure what kind of file you're talking about that wouldn't get decent speeds on a torrent. That is, if you took the time to learn how to configure a torrent client properly based on your ISP and router settings.

If rapidshare had an official reliable search engine and was free I would use it...

As i already said more than once it is very simple to mask your IP address on torrents without slowing them down BitBlinder, it's in beta but it's very easy to get a cop.y

Albums by obscure bands etc. will be hard to find on torrents, and if you do find them they may only have a few people seeding them. You cant make a torrent go faster than the combined upload speed of the people hosting it.

Rapidshare on the other hand, almost always runs at top speed for any file. Any downtime is corrected almost immediately. Forums exist with over a million members, so there will likely be somebody with your taste who has uploaded what you're after. If not, there are request sections so you can ask if anyone has what you're looking for.

The only thing I would consider switching from rapidshare to is Usenet. Going to give it a go when my RS account runs out.

tuxy · 02-09-2009 05:11PM

So do people really think rapid share is better then usenet?
I have a usnet subscription for a few years now.
Can you encrypt traffic over rapid share like you can with usenet?

hullin · 02-09-2009 06:26PM

this worked for me.

http://www.unlimitedsurfing.info/

brosps · 02-09-2009 07:31PM

The outrage is pretty lol.

I get that torrents aren't necessarily all infringing copyright but come on, it was obviously illegal. Wether you think you are entitled to peoples efforts free of charge or not, if you thought that the entertainment industry was just going to lay over and die you are a straight up fool.

Jeebus · 02-09-2009 07:37PM

brosps wrote: »

The outrage is pretty lol.

I get that torrents aren't necessarily all infringing copyright but come on, it was obviously illegal. Wether you think you are entitled to peoples efforts free of charge or not, if you thought that the entertainment industry was just going to lay over and die you are a straight up fool.

The completely missing of the issue is pretty lol.

brosps · 02-09-2009 07:48PM

Jeebus wrote: »

The completely missing of the issue is pretty lol.

How is that missing the issue? Eircom can do what they like with their product. If you don't like it just switch.

banquo · 02-09-2009 08:09PM

Impossible.

tuxy · 02-09-2009 08:15PM

Google should be banned next because that's what I am using to search for torrents!

ShooterSF · 02-09-2009 08:22PM

brosps wrote: »

The outrage is pretty lol.

I get that torrents aren't necessarily all infringing copyright but come on, it was obviously illegal. Wether you think you are entitled to peoples efforts free of charge or not, if you thought that the entertainment industry was just going to lay over and die you are a straight up fool.

Do you know what a torrent is?

brosps · 02-09-2009 08:31PM

I do, and on 'thepiratebay' they were pretty much entirely used for copyright infringement.

blubloblu · 02-09-2009 08:41PM

I actually used thepiratebay exclusively for authorized links. Why should my access be censored?
Their blog has also been blocked. How could that not be an infringment of free speech?

Brosps: if links to copyrighted materials are illegal, do you think the entire World Wide Web should be outlawed?

brosps · 02-09-2009 08:44PM

Id compare it to no longer being able to buy your vitamin c tablets from that drug dealer that got arrested.

Although I agree about the blog.

blubloblu: It's not illegal to go to thepiratebay.

blubloblu · 02-09-2009 08:46PM

That comparison would be more apt if TPB had actually hosted any illegal content. It's more like not being able to use the roads because other people speed.

My name is URL · 02-09-2009 08:57PM

blubloblu wrote: »

That comparison would be more apt if TPB had actually hosted any illegal content. It's more like not being able to use the roads because other people speed.

What should the industries do in order to combat piracy though?

It's easy to say that it's an issue of free speech but it's really an issue of them losing billions while people that have nothing to do with the content are becoming rich from their work.

They can hardly ignore it, and the **AA are working for those making the stuff at the end of the day, it's not just a case of them wanting money for themselves.

Bob_Harris · 02-09-2009 09:10PM

My name is URL wrote: »

What should the industries do in order to combat piracy though?

It's easy to say that it's an issue of free speech but it's really an issue of them losing billions while people that have nothing to do with the content are becoming rich from their work.

Movies still take in millions, and artists can get off their arses and do more concerts :pac:

blubloblu · 02-09-2009 09:13PM

My name is URL wrote: »

people that have nothing to do with the content are becoming rich from their work.

you mean the bureaucracy of the industry, right?

They can hardly ignore it, and the **AA are working for those making the stuff at the end of the day, it's
not just a case of them wanting money for themselves.

They represent the music corporations, not the artists.
They must be really thick if they think that blocking one website will make ANY difference.
I would like to see if their (probably made up) losses are recouped by this. They should stop spending millions on suing people. Imagine what could have been if they invested that money in new technologies instead of lawsuits against the first MP3
Player, >30000 people and numerous websites.

banquo · 02-09-2009 10:17PM

I don't think they're being retards by not blocking the trackers/etc. They still want customers to be happy on their line so they've fulfilled their legal obligations to the lowest possible standard.

Hence merely blocking the IP and nothing else. Seconds to get around, like people say.

banquo · 02-09-2009 10:26PM

Also, they should get into digital distribution. In a smart way.

They can shut down Napster but it won't make any difference. Sorry, I meant Kazaa. Sorry, I meant TPB. Sorry, I meant the next target in their futile mission/substitute for learning how the **** to run a business.

AntiRip · 03-09-2009 01:36AM

I reckon myself that the main reason(s) for this 'big clampdown' lately is because it is getting FAR TOO EASY to download copyright material. It's coming to the point now that when you type in a song, album or movie etc into google all the torrent sites comes up first before all the legitimate sites.

I think they know they will never stop piracy. There was this documentary I saw, I think it was "don't steal this movie" (it's was actually legal to download this movie through bittorrent

) and there was representatives of the movie/music industry on it and they said that piracy is impossible to stop but they have to make it more difficult for the 'ordinary' joe soap. Blocking sites isn't the way to go about this, blocking trackers although not popular would have been the better option.

banquo · 03-09-2009 12:02PM

Or by working with the industry to secure for Europe the same rights that America has for digital content I.e iTunes

I'd pay for it, quite happily. I get iTunes vouchers for music because I'm happy to pay for the songs I liked. I've even preordered an album. But I can't get the same service for films, etc.

ben bedlam · 03-09-2009 12:48PM

Eircom are stupid and petty to think for a second that they can slow down or stop people downloading torrents online. There are countless fantastic alternative sites to piratebay like mininova, demonoid and isohunt and thats exactly where piratebay followers have gone. Copyright infringement hurts NO ONE.

ShooterSF · 03-09-2009 01:13PM

I do like that they offer a link to their own music store on the page too. :rolleyes:

thebman · 03-09-2009 01:26PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

I do like that they offer a link to their own music store on the page too. :rolleyes:

Yeah well I can guess how the click through to purchase ratio works out on that page

Mark200 · 03-09-2009 02:26PM

ben bedlam wrote: »

Eircom are stupid and petty to think for a second that they can slow down or stop people downloading torrents online. There are countless fantastic alternative sites to piratebay like mininova, demonoid and isohunt and thats exactly where piratebay followers have gone. Copyright infringement hurts NO ONE.

It's not Eircom though, Eircom couldn't give a ****. But unfortunately they figured (possibly rightly so) that it'd cost them a lot more money to go to court than to agree to that agreement with the music industry. Eircom couldn't give a crap what you download.

Eircom to block the Pirate Bay,

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