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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    8 miles over new route (fewer aggressive dogs). Happy with the route though as its a gorgeous run right by the foot of the Silvermines. No HRM or watch splits as I intended to run as I feel and try to estimate the PMP pace naturally. Probably not the best idea as the route climbs slowly for 3 miles then sharply for about 0.5 mile before descending slowly to the origin. The overall pace was 7'21"/mile with the last mile at 6'55". It was shy of my PMP but after the first mile or so I felt pretty good and even felt stronger as the run went on. Killer of a run planned for this evening...

    The Week so far...
    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|0km|37km |8miles |
    session #1||37km Hills on mtb|8m PMP-6sec|
    session #2||||
    session #3||||
    session #4||||


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Yesterday: Back to Back hill runs total 18km. 1'19'15" Average HR 157, max 178
    8km mostly road and some gravel. About 150m of climbing. 39'30" average 7'54"/mile pace. Descent was a long straight on on road but I leaned back into it to ease the pace for a steady run.
    10km mountain run. Mostly fireroads. 290m climbing for first 5k up in 24'. Steady grinding work focusing on breathing. The view of the mountains with the mist closing in majestic. I didn't go the extra 2km to the top as it was loose gravel and with the mist I didn't want to risk running over slippery loose surface in the dark. It was my first hill run back after hurting my knee so kept the risk to a minimum. Started the descent easy but wasted no time in tearing into it. Flat out back down in 15'45 concentrating on a long soft stride. 10k in 39'45" which I was very pleased with average 6'22"/mile pace.

    This Morning: 5 miles recovery at 8'34"/mile pace. Average HR 131. Legs feeling that 10k last night.


    The Week so far...
    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|0km|37km |24.2miles |
    session #1||37km Hills on mtb|8m PMP-6sec|
    session #2|||11.2m Hill running|
    session #3|||5m Recovery|
    session #4||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭MrCreosote


    Nice work on yesterday's runs! How'd the knee by the way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    MrCreosote wrote: »
    Nice work on yesterday's runs! How'd the knee by the way?

    Its ok, wound healing slowly though. Would you believe that when I got down the mountain and stopped running there was some sort of creature on the wound nibbling away at it! Yeah I was chuffed to go sub 40 on a mountain run!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Last night: 56 km mostly easy spinning on the bike. 15kmTT included in 24'53" average 36.2 km/h an improvement again which is quite satisfying as the outward leg was into a strong blustery NW wind and driving rain :)

    This Morning: 6 miles on the treadmill as it was lashing outside. 2m at 8'/mile pace and 4m at 7'13"/mile pace which is approx PMP. Still really don't know about this pace for Dublin. It feels fine but maybe too ambitious to hold for 26.2

    The Week so far...
    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|0km|93km |30.2miles |
    session #1||37km Hills on mtb|8m PMP+6sec|
    session #2||56km inc 15kmTT|11.2m Hill running|
    session #3|||5m Recovery|
    session #4|||6m inc 4@PMP|


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    you seem to have upped the gears with regards the running ? when can you get back swimming? how long to kenmare ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Seres wrote: »
    you seem to have upped the gears with regards the running ? when can you get back swimming? how long to kenmare ?

    Hi Seres, yep I'm a bit more focussed on running now as I think I have about as much bike fitness as I'm going to get at this stage. Bike fitness will be a focus for the winter though. Also I'm concious of the fact that I have a Marathon to run in October and whilst its not a priority goal for me I'm not going to get on very well doing 20 miles a week. I was going to go swimming this morning but *sorry if grosse* The scab came off the knee last night and the wound oozed a bit. I'm hoping to get a swim on Monday morning just so August is not a total swimming write off. Kenmare is in 2 weeks :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Saturday: 5k road race. Not exactly a specific 1/2IM prep and supposed to be a day off but it was a nice day and a local event so I headed down. About 200 in the race including walkers. Lovely course although windy with a long drag in the middle, it finishes at the entrance to an Abbey. The first km was fine but I kind of lost my mojo after that and rather plodded heavily home. I wasn't exactly switched on nor did I have a pep in my step. Finished a respectable 8th in 19'12" although the time wasn't anything to write home about. Since it was my first 5k however I'll take it as a pb to be attacked in the spring :)
    Sunday: 95km hilly hilly bike. The original plan was a 2 hour cycle and an hour of a run but this was the toughest cycle I've done to date and 'knowing' I could run afterwards was enough for me. Myself and a mate headed out. First hour was my idea so into the Silvermines we went. Next hour was his call and he brought me a challenging rolling trip to Sixmilebrige. On the way home we deceided to go up Gallows hill the hard way (there is side route and a direct one). This was a dubious decision as the top was hidden in a mist. The mist was both saturating and eerie. I was about 20 meters from the mast at the top before I saw it. The descent was hairy straight into a driving rain. I almost lost it on one bend as visibility was so poor. Note to self also that the bike was in dire need of maintenance. We agreed not to do another climb in the last 20k home although hills were unavoidable. 3'15' overall average about 29.4km/h. Legs feeling it this morning
    Last Weeks Summary

    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|0km again! :(|188km :) |33.3miles :)|
    session #1||37km Hills on mtb|8m PMP+6sec|
    session #2||56km inc 15kmTT|11.2m Hill running|
    session #3||95km Hilly|5m Recovery|
    session #4|||6m inc [EMAIL="4@PMP"]4@PMP[/EMAIL]|
    session #5|||5k race


    This Morning: Finally, a swim session yay! Well not really yay as I struggled big time :o
    800m warm up which felt like a session in itself
    100m*5 focusing on catch and pull
    50m sprint*6 at about 45-48secs
    200m*2 really struggling to keep pace on the first one and was toasted by the second.

    2,000m total and I had to have a sit down afterwards! Unbelievable how my swimming fitness has dropped in just 5 weeks :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭MrCreosote


    That's a big week! You must be looking forward to the taper...

    Nice time on the 5k as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    10 sleeps left to Kenmare... last 'A' goal of the season :eek: I'll be finishing up this log too with the race report.
    Monday Evening: Club Aquathon. Short race but good to practice transition, specifically taking the wetsuit off, prior to Kenmare. It was strange putting the runners on wet feet but nice to run with fresh legs for a change. Had a good one, came 1st and picked up a nice New Balance Tech Tee. Tummy felt well dodgy as though I had swallowed too much of the river...
    Tuesday: Dodgy tummy was a bug, hence night of no sleep and general unpleasantness... Also no training. Went out to watch County TT champs and collected a nice prize for winning the Spring league :)
    The week so far...

    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|2.75 km|0 km bike in for service |A whopping .. 1.3 miles!|
    session #1|2,000m sets||1.3m aquathon|
    session #2|750m OW aquathon|||
    session #3||||
    session #4||||


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭MrCreosote


    You're collecting a nice set of prizes there! Maybe turning pro is the next step?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Poncherello


    MCOS whats ur plan for the next 10 days before Kenmare ? I took your advice from Kenmare thread and cut back a bit on this week but still very uncertain about the whole tapering thing ... just doesnt feel right to do nothing next week !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    MCOS whats ur plan for the next 10 days before Kenmare ? I took your advice from Kenmare thread and cut back a bit on this week but still very uncertain about the whole tapering thing ... just doesnt feel right to do nothing next week !

    Something like this

    Tonight: LSR 1.5-2hours
    Thurs am: Swim easy aerobic 1 hour(supposed to do ysterday but was sick.. just doing for confidence)
    Thurs pm: Bike 2 hours easy no hills (15km all out TT thrown in)
    Fri: 8 miles with 5 at race pace
    Sat: Off
    Sun: 1.5 hour bike inc one decent hill + 40 min run easy
    Mon: 1,000 OW swim
    Tue: very easy 30 min run
    Wed: pre noon 20 min swim/50 min bike/20 min run
    Thurs: Rest, travel, eat loads, sleep loads. check bike etc...
    Fri: 500m swim with 5*15sec/20 min bike with 5*15sec/10 min run with 5*15 sec
    Sat: RACE DAY!

    By this stage the heavy work is done. Hills are done. Today and tomorrow are the last long workouts. Next week is very light with short sharp workouts to keep the body loose and ready. Focus will be on my race plan, nutrition plan, Sleeping, getting organised making a checklist etc... and basically getting myself in the mood for a great weekend :)

    I know tapering is a weird place to be when you have put your body through so many long and tough workouts, however your body just needs fine tuning and rest. By thursday you should be absolutely bursting to get out the door ... you know then you are fired up and ready. Best of luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    MrCreosote wrote: »
    You're collecting a nice set of prizes there! Maybe turning pro is the next step?!


    I wish! I've had a satisfying first season so I'll take that whatever happens in Kenmare. After a holiday and the DM it will be back to the drawing board to figure out how I will step it up a notch next year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    9 sleeps left to Kenmare... last 'A' goal of the season :eek:

    8 miles last night, although I had intended 13. I forgot to pack socks and had my older runners in the bag. After about 6-7 miles I felt a blister forming which was heating up so had to bail out ofter another mile. Shame as I felt good and legs were somewhat fresh. 4 miles at 8'/mile and into PMP 7'15 pace for another 4. Hmm.. very slow start to the week

    Opted for sleep this morning instead of swimming and feel better for it!
    The week so far...

    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|2.75 km|0 km bike in for service |9.3 miles|
    session #1|2,000m sets||1.3m aquathon|
    session #2|750m OW aquathon||8m inc 4@PMP|
    session #3||||
    session #4||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Hey MCOS,
    How's the swimming going for you after the lay off? Are you doing Lough Key at the weekend?

    Starting to get a bit worried about Kenmare myself now. 2 weeks in France was good but with limited training. Some good tough sessions though so not all bad. This week has been a disaster due to work and as you can see (nearly 3 in the morning and still at work) it's not getting any better! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Hey MCOS,
    How's the swimming going for you after the lay off? Are you doing Lough Key at the weekend?

    Starting to get a bit worried about Kenmare myself now. 2 weeks in France was good but with limited training. Some good tough sessions though so not all bad. This week has been a disaster due to work and as you can see (nearly 3 in the morning and still at work) it's not getting any better! :eek:

    My swimming sucks big time! Getting the jitters myself too. I just want to survive the swim and get on the bike, I'll be happy then. The run is also about surviving but at least most of the work will be done by the time the run starts to really hurt!

    Just get lots of sleep next week and eat well too! What will you take on the bike to feed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Last night: 55km on the bike mostly easy. 15km TT in there too in 24'14" which is a pb over the course (not flat). Average 37.1 km/h. It was windy again but not as bad as last week. It was the alst TT of the season so I just gave it everything. I was satisfyingly spent crossing the line but nice to lower the pb again. Feeling good about the bike!

    This morning: Swim session. A little better than Monday but still way of the swimming fitness I had Mid July. 2,300m total of various sets. I had to leave the session early again as I was wrecked. Not feeling good about the swim at all!
    The week so far...

    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|4.05 km|55 km |9.3 miles|
    session #1|2,000m sets|55km inc 15k TT|1.3m aquathon|
    session #2|750m OW aquathon||8m inc 4@PMP|
    session #3|2,300m sets|||
    session #4||||


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    MCOS wrote: »
    My swimming sucks big time! Getting the jitters myself too. I just want to survive the swim and get on the bike, I'll be happy then. The run is also about surviving but at least most of the work will be done by the time the run starts to really hurt!

    Just get lots of sleep next week and eat well too! What will you take on the bike to feed?

    Planning lots of early nights next week...9:00 timeframe. Doing Lough Key on Sunday. Hoping it will be fine as it is a Sprint. I'll use it as a training session I think rather than going full pelt. As for nutrition I will hae gels, Nutri Grain Elevenses, Granola Bars and Some High 5 drink. Just wondering how to manage the drinks as my full requirement won't fit on the bike. Any idea what the story is with water stations on the cycle and run courses?

    What's your plan for nutrition?

    No doubt you will still go well in the swim. Just want it to be on now and get going. I left work this morning at 7;00am after an all nighter and man was it cold. Hope it's warmer for Kenamre!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Lots of early nights for me too. Nutrition plan for me is similar. Gels, nutri grain elevenses and maybe a granola bar on the bike. I;ll have 1 750ml water with a tiny sprinkle of Dioralyte and 1 sports drink. I don't know what the story is with aid stations. Maybe they just hand you water. I'll have a drink and a couple of gels waiting in T2 also. Apart from that just going to have a few ham and cheese sambos in the swim LOL

    It has certainly dropped a few degrees alright. I'd expect it to be colder than 10C at 7am next Saturday. Maybe a two swim hat job!

    Best of luck in Lough Key ;) I have to enllist a babysitter to get any training done this weekend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Last Week Summary...
    Overall the volume was to be reduced so I got in about 8 hours of training. Running mileage at an all time low but something had to give for swimming and that bug gave me one less day to play with. Weekend was almost a complete write off as I had no babysitter. Had to resort to getting the turbo trainer out for its first session on Sunday morning while my son ran commentry on the pool of sweat forming under the bike. Decent session though. 2 hours 66.7km. Just wanted to practice pedalling at 90rpm which I did for the first hour. Upped it to 93 ish for second on and for the last 5 minutes of it, just put on another gear and upped to 100rpm. Average 33.3km/h and it was a reminder of early morning winter rowing ergometer work years ago (note title of log :rolleyes:). I summed up that 90rpm felt a little alien to my legs which was a certain sign that I've been mashing a lower cadence all season!! The turbo itself is hard work in that its contstant. No fresh air to keep you cool, no freewheeling to rest for a few seconds while you sip your drink... just work work work. That said it was relatively quiet and smooth and gives me an option to cycling on dodgy dark mornings.

    24-30 Aug|Swim |Bike |Run |Other
    total distance|5.05 km|121.7 km |9.3 miles|
    session #1|2,000m sets|55km inc 15k TT|1.3m aquathon|
    session #2|750m OW aquathon|66.7km turbo|8m inc 4@PMP|
    session #3|2,300m sets|||
    session #4||||


    So Taper Continues .... and the state of play with the...

    swim.. is poor. Swimming fitness is just not back :(
    bike.. is good. I'm happy with the bike, its been improving since injury and its just about getting nutrition right :)
    run.. is ok. Legs are ok, strong from hills but no LSRs done :confused: Worst possible scenario is they will cave and cramp half way through the run in Kenmare.. fingers crossed on this one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    looking forward to your taper log! i haven't tapered properly before so i'll be looking to learn a little. what do you feel you've lost most in the swim? Is it aerobic capacity, breathing or swim technique etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Bambaata wrote: »
    looking forward to your taper log! i haven't tapered properly before so i'll be looking to learn a little. what do you feel you've lost most in the swim? Is it aerobic capacity, breathing or swim technique etc?

    Hey Bambaata, did you get your Tri bar sorted yet? Taper began last week. I essentially cut overall training volume down by about 3-4 hours. This week is Race week so all light short stuff. Easy swim this eve, easy run tomorrow, early morning 75% of race pace short brick (500m/15k/4k) wed, off thurs and quick sess on friday.

    Chocolate and biscuits are off the diet this week!! Fresh food for lunch and dinner. Lots of greens and fruit. Usual breakfast. Constantly sipping water. Bed earlier than usual. I usually sleep 6 hours a night, this week more like 8-9 hours if I can. The only difference with this race are sports drink and gels. I'm using the same gels I used for the marathon last year as I know they sit well with me. I'm also using a sport drink for the first time this week as I want to use in the race. I haven't used one all season apart from the lucozade experience in Kilkee, for some reason I only thought of it lately! So plan is to try it before swim tonight and run tomorrow to make sure it sits well. Although a mate gave me some of his out cycling last week and it was no probs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    have ordered new bars, cables, cable puller and cable cutter and should have all by Wednesday. I got 290mm ones that i cut to size (they have a size chart on the side of them) so i can get them just right. I always felt mine were slightly too small. I hadn't realised until in went about dismantling it that i might as well run new cables too so i got some dura ace ones.

    looking forward to your race report and log of the taper up to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Race week - 4 days to go

    Swim yesterday. Ok here was the area I was currently lacking confidence. I felt that 5 weeks away from swimming set me back to last Christmas! Anyway planned an easy aerobic session of about 75% the race distance. However, it was manic at the Arena (note to self avoid Monday evenings at all cost). Just one lane available which had a mixed bag in it that resembled the leisure centre pool that frustrated me for months last year! I realised there was just one public lane so I wasn't going to moan, but seriously I must have looked like I was moving as I was faster than everyone in the lane (thats not saying anything about me!) so for a breast stroker to gently push off the wall as I come in is just poor pool etiquette. Anyway I did 1,300m with 1k at what I felt was just below race pace. Having to overtake about 4-5 people each length probably added a few meters to it but 18'50" for the 1k was about 1'53"/100m which I was happy enough with for the simple reason that I had plenty left in the tank for that effort. Normal race pace for Olympic distance is about 1'49"/100m so I wasn't too far off the pace thus losing 3-4 minutes off my potential swim time in Kenmare is not bothering me. I'm still expecting to have to work hard to swim the 1900m in Kenmare (I heard its a tough swim also) but I'll get through it and hopefully my HR won't be hitting the roof when I get out. Priority #1 for the bike though is HR/Hydration. I'll be making sure that my HR is well down below 150 within the first few km of the cycle course. Also took on about 300ml of sports drink before the swim and the rest of the bottle afterwards. Sat fine in the stomach :) So, swim confidence still not where it was but up a notch from last week :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Race week - 3 days to go

    Last night: 5 miles easy on local hilly route at about 7'48"/mile pace. Legs felt stodgy for the first 2 miles which is uphill but loosened out nicely. Plenty of energy but kept it easy.

    This Morning: Short brick.. 800m swim, 15km bike and 4km run. Pretty much the last workout. Swim was good, 500 at steady state and then 300 at race pace. Took the bike very easy at 29km/h just spinning the legs and the run at 7'13"/mile pace. Not sure of the HR for the swim but about 128 avg on the bike and maxed out at 140 on the run so all done at the lower end of the aerobic zone.

    My sister noticed that I seemed to have lost weight and look a little guant last night... I smiled and said 'I must be race fit so!'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Sounds like things are shaping up well MCOS and the swimming is not as far off the mark as you expected. That's super. I'd say you will go really well on Saturday. It looks like the weather could be on our side too. :cool:

    So, the big one, what's your predicted time or goal? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Sounds like things are shaping up well MCOS and the swimming is not as far off the mark as you expected. That's super. I'd say you will go really well on Saturday. It looks like the weather could be on our side too. :cool:

    So, the big one, what's your predicted time or goal? :p


    Yeah its a cracking morning this morning so It would rock to wake up to this on Saturday. Goal is to finish and to empty the tank out on the course so I couldn't tell you what that would be timewise as I haven't cycled the course or done anything this long before. All going well though around 5'30' would be sweeeet! Assuming nice conditions remain intact. Add 30 mins if wind and rain kicks up!

    How about yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    MCOS wrote: »
    Yeah its a cracking morning this morning so It would rock to wake up to this on Saturday. Goal is to finish and to empty the tank out on the course so I couldn't tell you what that would be timewise as I haven't cycled the course or done anything this long before. All going well though around 5'30' would be sweeeet! Assuming nice conditions remain intact. Add 30 mins if wind and rain kicks up!
    think the weather is suppose to be good , nice thru the weekend , weather was gorgeous this morn alright just when i had finished the seasons training :mad: got up for a run anyway.
    Is kenmare the last race of the season ? whats the after tri season plan ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    MCOS wrote: »
    Yeah its a cracking morning this morning so It would rock to wake up to this on Saturday. Goal is to finish and to empty the tank out on the course so I couldn't tell you what that would be timewise as I haven't cycled the course or done anything this long before. All going well though around 5'30' would be sweeeet! Assuming nice conditions remain intact. Add 30 mins if wind and rain kicks up!

    How about yourself?

    Same as yourself really, except for the time. Finish the race and have left it all on the course. Likewise this is a huge step in to the unknown - in terms of distances and the actual course. I have never covered any of the distances in any type of race previously. My longest distances for all 3 disciplines was in my only Olympic distance tri (Carna this year). I am really looking forward to it and planning for 6:00:00 or better.

    We should try and get a boards group photo down there after the race.


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