Staircase Problem.

rok wrote: »

Thanks Syd, I'll take a look at that pdf tonight.

If floor to floor height is 2.925 and we went for 14 steps then our risers would be approx 201mm (below the maximum of 220mm).
Do you think we can we fit in the extra step? sorry for lazy question, I'm brutal at sums

Am i mistaken or is there a 14th step at the top that you haven't marked in. i.e the 14th step is the landing, making it 13 steps but 14 risers.

I hope that makes sense to you.

2925 / 14 = 209 Approx which would be within regulations making the stairs in the drawing compliant. Maybe Syd or one of the others can clarify on this.

ah, see what you mean about the 14th step (landing), thanks for the help.
Think we will try to increase the hall way depth to > 3.3metres to "push" the stairs back a bit more and make angle less steep.
thanks again!

Thanks Syd, Quazzie, Muffler - you've been a great help.

Looks like the hall is too small, not sure if we will be able to add another winder at the base, as we may need to leave 400mm for the swing from the Front door. To make it more awkward the precast stairs company say they prefer to make "straight across" steps as opposed to tapered/diagonal steps as in the current plans.

If we flipped the way the front door opens (hinges) we might be able to add another winder at the base,
but I do not like having the stairs right in front of you as you enter the hall (what do ye think about this?)
and not sure if we still need to leave the 400mm for doorswing.
If we did flip the Front door swing it would occasionally block the door going into Study - is there anything in the Building Standards against this?

We think we will try to push the kitchen wall back 0.3metres , (unfortunately this eats up a bit on the landing space upstairs).
so then 2.7 m divided into 11 goings = 245mm

I need to go and figure out the pitch and rise properly like IamLegend2008 did earlier in thread


from Building Regulations 1997
Technical Guidance Document K Stairways, Ladders, Ramps and Guards
Landings
1.1.13 A level landing should be provided at the top and bottom of every flight except that a landing may not be necessary between a flight and a door if the total rise of the flight is not more than 600 mm and the door slides or opens away from the steps. The landing may include part of a floor. The width and going of the landing should be at least as great as the smallest width of the flight.
1.1.14 Landings should be clear of permanent obstruction. A door opening on to a landing should be so positioned that there will be a clear space of at least the full width of the flight between the door swing and the flight. In the case of private stairs, the landing at the bottom of a flight may be reduced in
length provided a clear space of at least 400 mm is maintained between the flight and the door swing

sydthebeat wrote: »

1. move the study door closer to the kitchen door
2. select a from door that has the door on the left hand side and a single glazed panel to the right hand side... not a door with 2 glazed panels as you have shown. open this door back against the study wall.
3. add winders to the bottom landing, what you've added in your sketch is a full step, not a winder.
4. if the precast stair crowd cannot do winders, then dont use them.

doing the above affords you the most stair length from step 1 to step 14., without playing with moving walls.....

Is there a need for step 2 if he does step 3?

Its understandable that a central door might be crucial to the overall appearance fo the front elevation, and moving walls might seem more appealing than change that (especially if the house is symmetrical or such)

Precast Stairs manufacturers can definitely do winders, and if they say they can't I'd be wary about what else they are not proficient at