Would you emigrate???

ronano · 29-08-2009 02:16PM

Yes i would but it's more being forced out

my leaving may be a question of when rather than if sadly

My name is URL · 29-08-2009 02:21PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_economics

Yeah, what an absolute shithole we live in

IvySlayer · 29-08-2009 02:27PM

Raiser wrote: »

I'll give you €500 if you can find some crafty way of abducting IvySlayer and bringing him with you

I like naked women

Jumpy · 29-08-2009 02:28PM

My name is URL wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_economics

Yeah, what an absolute shithole we live in

What an absolute load of tripe. Number 1? Are you ****ing joking?

Edit: And before anyone says "It was in 2005" thats still bull****, none of the factors listed there are enough to bring Ireland to the top.

My name is URL · 29-08-2009 02:31PM

Jumpy wrote: »

What an absolute load of tripe. Number 1? Are you ****ing joking?

Edit: And before anyone says "It was in 2005" thats still bull****, none of the factors listed there are enough to bring Ireland to the top.

No, of course.. it was just made up by a bored teenager :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_with_Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#2007.2F2008_report

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#2008_ranking

Ireland ranks highly in all of these studies

Mimikyu · 29-08-2009 02:32PM

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Jumpy · 29-08-2009 02:37PM

My name is URL wrote: »

No, of course.. it was just made up by a bored teenager :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_with_Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#2007.2F2008_report

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#2008_ranking

Ireland ranks highly in all of these studies

Some of the others make a little more sense. But number 1 in the quality of life? I have lived in two other countries that rank lower on that list with a much higher quality of life across all those factors. Not just for me but the majority of the population.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 29-08-2009 02:42PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I never said Ireland was idyllic..

you're saying that the only reason you left was because of people thinking there was something wrong with people leaving? okay :pac:

It doesn't bother me at all if people leave, more power to them

What irks me is people lambasting the country for reasons such as high crime rates and corruption, and saying they'd like to leave for those reasons but never actually going anywhere.

I lived in the US for 2 years, so I'm not against people broadening their horizons. But don't flame the nation because you're stuck in a rut.. get up and do something about it

No, I said my reasons for leaving were person.

I never did "flame the nation" (and I know you never said I did) but I agree with you: get up and do something about it. Instead of telling people who may have a genuine insight into the poorer elements of the country that they should just get the **** out.

My name is URL wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_economics

Yeah, what an absolute shithole we live in

http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl2008/
We've fallen a bit since then. Just as good/bad as Colombia, St Kitts and Nevis and South Aftica.

weldoninhio · 29-08-2009 02:43PM

Ireland is a hole. As soon as my loans are paid off i'm out of here.

G_R · 29-08-2009 02:45PM

I'd love to go to France for a year or so to improve my french and prob will in a few years, but I'll definitely come home again

Raiser · 29-08-2009 02:48PM

My name is URL wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_economics

Yeah, what an absolute shithole we live in

78% of all statistics are made up on the spot!!!

But anyhow, if thats your approach..... According to this table from the World Health Organisation, Norway (which is only one place away from us on your Quality of life table) has a suicide rate well over three times that of Albania!!!!!

- I'm just going to go buy an AK47 and herd Goats in the Albanian Hills by your logic!!!!

I refuse to accept a table full of statistics as proof of anything when I can just look out the window and see the truth.....

Scumbags ruling the streets in mobs unchallenged by any Law enforcement, Mothers chain-smoking as they beat their 12 kids in the rain on the way to scam social welfare and rasie a 15th generation of Scumbags on tax revenue.

Half the Country out of work and the other half waiting nervously for their P45.

School, Hospitals and transport infrastructures that were more progressive and very often better 100 years ago.

The Catholic Church and The Government fcuking the Nation over day on day without anyone ever facing any consequence to their actions - they don't even resign!

Overblood · 29-08-2009 02:54PM

Do you mean emigrate to make a new living or just feck off travelling?

I'm off to Uganda in october anyway.

pigeonbutler · 29-08-2009 02:56PM

Raiser wrote: »

78% of all statistics are made up on the spot!!!

But anyhow, if thats your approach..... According to this table from the World Health Organisation, Norway (which is only one place away from us on your Quality of life table) has a suicide rate well over three times that of Albania!!!!!

- I'm just going to go buy an AK47 and herd Goats in the Albanian Hills by your logic!!!!

I refuse to accept a table full of statistics as proof of anything when I can just look out the window and see the truth.....

Scumbags ruling the streets in mobs unchallenged by any Law enforcement, Mothers chain-smoking as they beat their 12 kids in the rain on the way to scam social welfare and rasie a 15th generation of Scumbags on tax revenue.

Half the Country out of work and the other half waiting nervously for their P45.

School, Hospitals and transport infrastructures that were more progressive and very often better 100 years ago.

The Catholic Church and The Government fcuking the Nation over day on day without anyone ever facing any consequence to their actions - they don't even resign!

Of course, why let facts get in the way of a good rant. :rolleyes:

Raiser · 29-08-2009 02:57PM

pigeonbutler wrote: »

Of course, why let facts get in the way of a good rant. :rolleyes:

You're from Athlone - Can't you see I'm trying to help you????

:eek:

Anyway - what's not factual there? You're getting no marks for observational skills!!!!!

almostnever · 29-08-2009 03:00PM

I would and I will

FutureTaoiseach · 29-08-2009 03:05PM

Nope. We're still a wealthy country and I have not been out of the country in 15 years (and that was a holiday). Then again, I don't have children to rear so it's easier for me to take that position I suppose. But the recession is global, so there aren't rhe same comparative advantages to emigration that would have been there in the 1980's. The social-welfare system here is quite generous too, and I think that will suppress emigration levels.

Snowie · 29-08-2009 03:06PM

3 months left5

well I hope

My name is URL · 29-08-2009 03:07PM

Raiser wrote: »

Scumbags ruling the streets in mobs unchallenged by any Law enforcement, Mothers chain-smoking as they beat their 12 kids in the rain on the way to scam social welfare and rasie a 15th generation of Scumbags on tax revenue.

I don't even know what to say in reply to that

when are you booking your ticket?

AlphaMale 3OO · 29-08-2009 03:09PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

http://www.il-ireland.com/il/qofl2008/
We've fallen a bit since then. Just as good/bad as Colombia, St Kitts and Nevis and South Aftica.

Us being at No.1 is complete horse manure, by the same token being all the way down near Colombia is equally ridiculous. We haven't fallen that far in 4 years. I mean come on, has anybody here actually been to South America? It's a fascinating place but Utopia it ain't and as for Argentina ranking at number 13? Rubbish. The place was in tatters when I was there, physically and economically, albeit 9 years ago now and though I hear much has changed, they had a long way to go. South Africa better standard of living than Ireland? Pah! Maybe in an area of Cape Town that accounts for about 0.00001% of the land mass. Lets stop the bullsh1tting here. We've been hit hard but we're not exactly third world. We partied hardest, therefore we are suffering the greatest hangover.

gurramok · 29-08-2009 03:15PM

I dunno why people would leave solely because of the weather. Its grand weather, not too hot or too cold which nearly everyone on the continent/USA/Canada/Australia experiences.
News to the begrudgers of the Irish weather, there are people who like this weather, we even get tourists from hot countires here as its refreshing for them!!

Holland was 30C and sticky with constant thunderstorms during the week, wouldn't fancy that anywhere for a summer.

Saibh · 29-08-2009 03:20PM

To emigrate would be an opportunity to see a different part of the world, work a while, then maybe travel. If anyone has the chance to do it, they should go for it.

Weather etc., wouldn't pay a factor in the decision to go.

mega man · 29-08-2009 03:26PM

My name is URL wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-Life_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_economics

Yeah, what an absolute shithole we live in

I guess no one told you about the recession

Papad · 29-08-2009 03:37PM

Raiser wrote: »

I refuse to accept a table full of statistics as proof of anything when I can just look out the window and see the truth.....

Seeeeeeee, this is the way one should judge your quality of life. Not by dragging up statistics from 2005 telling us that Ireland is number one ON THE PLANET for quality of life. You would have to wonder who they asked in the survey? Maybe it was the bankers and builders who were fleecing the country in 2005, and the people on social welfare who faired better than people who trudged into work every Monday morning.

You have to judge the quality of life by looking around you, and not by statistics. Look what happened to the country the last time there was an election (i.e. everyone believed that life with FF and The Greens would just be absolutely fabulous).

For anyone who has an inkling to leave the country, I encourage them to do it whatever the emotional/financial cost (as I did and much happier for it). For those who want to stay: fair play to you (sincerely), I'm sure that you are happy there.

karlog · 29-08-2009 03:55PM

Straight to Japan;)

Dord · 29-08-2009 03:57PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Yeah.

Going to Guatemala after Christmas and i've plans to either live there or Colombia.

Out of the frying pan into the volcano? I think you're mad!

I'd emigrate but not sure where or when.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 29-08-2009 04:02PM

AlphaMale 3OO wrote: »

Us being at No.1 is complete horse manure, by the same token being all the way down near Colombia is equally ridiculous. We haven't fallen that far in 4 years. I mean come on, has anybody here actually been to South America? It's a fascinating place but Utopia it ain't and as for Argentina ranking at number 13? Rubbish. The place was in tatters when I was there, physically and economically, albeit 9 years ago now and though I hear much has changed, they had a long way to go. South Africa better standard of living than Ireland? Pah! Maybe in an area of Cape Town that accounts for about 0.00001% of the land mass. Lets stop the bullsh1tting here. We've been hit hard but we're not exactly third world. We partied hardest, therefore we are suffering the greatest hangover.

Pretty much the point I was making. Yet the source is the same as URLs.

Whiskey Devil · 29-08-2009 04:07PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

I wish all the negatives would leave - now. Go to the airport, just go. If you think Ireland is that bad, you have no reason to be here. Go away. We don't want you, nothing is stopping you. Money reasons? Bull****. Ryanair does cheap flights all over Europe.

Ireland is one of the best in the world. Ireland didn't invent crime, if you bother to look at any crime figures, Ireland is quite low in the world.

Corruption? Every country has them. Luckily we don't go to war for monetary reason. Again, you'll find we're not a major player for a corrupt leader.

Third world standards? Have you walked down the ****ing street lately? Are you posting on a PC with a modem or carving it with a rock? Believe it or not although our health system is not perfect, it is one of the best on the planet. If you get knocked down, you will get an ambulance, treatment.

Lose your job? Don't worry you'll receive financial assistance? Have kids? You'll get some money for that too. The weather? Not the countries fault. Would you like monsoons? Hurricanes? Live in a desert? Antartica?

Go on, leave, I won't miss you.

Great post. Thanks.

Whiskey Devil · 29-08-2009 04:11PM

I love the way people give the 'I've got a house, three kids and a car' line as their reason for staying in Ireland.

Why the f*ck did you buy a house in Ireland in the first place, if you dislike the place so much? Please answer that..

Neamhshuntasach · 29-08-2009 04:11PM

Dord wrote: »

Out of the frying pan into the volcano? I think you're mad!

I'd emigrate but not sure where or when.

I've already lived in both of those countries and i love the pace of life. Really laid back places. Reminds me of Ireland before the celtic tiger. I'm not doing it to escape a recession though. I'm actually not doing it to escape any problems. I haven't gripes strong enough for me to leave Ireland. Ireland will always be here for me to come home to and it will always be my home no matter where i am.

MagicMarker · 29-08-2009 04:13PM

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

I love the way people give the 'I've got a house, three kids and a car' line as their reason for staying in Ireland.

Why the f*ck did you buy a house in Ireland in the first place, if you dislike the place so much? Please answer that..

Maybe they liked it at the time?

Why do people continue to post stupid questions?

Would you emigrate???

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