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13 year old wants to sail around Earth

  • 28-08-2009 09:35PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭


    Would you let her do it?

    I think it'd be an awesome achievement and would make some great TV
    Dutch judges Friday called a 13-year-old girl's plan to sail solo around the world "undeniably daring and risky," but refused to scupper it completely, in a high profile clash between child care authorities and liberal Dutch parenting.

    A panel of three judges at Utrecht District court ordered authorities to take temporary guardianship of Laura Dekker, delaying her plan to set sail next week on her 26-foot (8-meter) yacht Guppy and become the youngest person to sail solo around the world.

    In her first reaction, Laura appeared unconcerned by the ruling.

    "I wouldn't go if I or my boat wasn't up to it, so things have stayed the same, except it is going to take a little longer," Laura told Dutch national broadcaster NOS.

    The court appointed a child psychologist to report on her capacity to cope with the risks she faces and the possible harm of two years of isolation.

    The ruling came a day after 17-year-old Mike Perham of Britain grabbed the crown Laura covets.

    After crossing the finish line, the teenage sailor listed some of the physical skills Laura will need to complete her trip.

    "It's whether she's got the physical strength, the mental strength and the technical ability," he said. "You know, can she strip an engine blindfolded? You know, can she build boats, is she an electrician, is she a mechanic as well — because you can't just be a sailor to do a trip like this."

    The Utrecht court will make a final decision in Dekker's case on Oct. 26.

    Laura ignored the legal storm swirling around her and took advantage of fresh winds whipping across the Netherlands Friday to — what else? — go sailing.

    Her lawyer, Peter de Lange, said friends told her about the court's decision and "she accepted it very positively."

    He said that if Laura gets the green light in two months her record bid would still be on track, although she may have to take her boat to Portugal to avoid autumn storms that regularly lash the Bay of Biscay.

    De Lange likened Laura's quest to the "Dutch East India Company mentality," a reference to the trading company whose ships plied the world's oceans in the 17th and 18th centuries, an era considered the Golden Age of Dutch sea travel and still a source of national pride.

    While the judges ordered child care workers to take responsibility for Laura, they stopped short of removing from her father's home.

    They acknowledged he had tried to stop the trip and then to make it as safe as possible.

    "This case is about whether the government ... can restrict the broad freedom parents have in bringing up and caring for their children," said presiding judge M. Oostendorp.

    "The court does not believe (Laura's father) can be ... accused of serious neglect," she added.

    But Prof. Micha de Winter, a child psychologist at Utrecht University, warned that Laura's parents are underestimating the impact of two years alone at sea on a 13-year-old girl as she matures physically and emotionally.

    He said the court had taken a "wise decision" in ordering a psychologist's report.

    "It's a big risk and an experiment with a child in which you don't know what the result could be," he said.

    Richard Bakker, spokesman for the Council for Child Protection, welcomed the ruling.

    "We are satisfied with this decision," he said, appealing to the father "to cooperate with the investigation and ensure Laura's safety."

    Laura's father, Dick Dekker, was in court for Friday's decision but said nothing to a scrum of reporters following the case. He is divorced from Laura's German mother, who has made no public comment.

    Laura was born on a boat in New Zealand and spent the first four years of her life sailing around the world with her parents. She also spends her holidays sailing off the Dutch coast. In May, British authorities briefly detained her after she arrived alone in the eastern port of Lowestoft and said she planned to sail home alone, De Lange said.

    Psychologist De Winter, who is not involved in the case, said children need parents and peers around them as they mature.

    Authorities "have to look at the development risks for the child," he told The Associated Press.

    Perham sailed into record books as the world's youngest round-the-world solo sailor by covering 28,000 miles (45,000 kilometers) in just nine months before crossing the finish line off the coast of Cornwall, in southwestern England, on Thursday. A celebration was planned for his arrival Saturday in Portsmouth, England.

    Perham is a few months younger than Zac Sunderland, from Thousand Oaks, California, who claimed the youngest solo crown in July when he completed a similar trip in 13 months.

    Perham's boat, a 50-foot (15-meter) racing yacht called Totallymoney.com in honor of his sponsor, is much larger than Laura's. But he also had significant seafaring adventures at a tender age.

    "Thirteen is a young, young age," he said Thursday. "But then I sailed across the Atlantic on my own when I was 14 and if I could do that when I was 14 then in theory she could do it when she was 13. But, yes, for me age is only a number."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090828/ap_on_re_eu/eu_netherlands_young_sailor

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I wasn't allowed to walk up to Tesco until I was 13.

    Selfish bitch.. what's wrong with canoeing in the park?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    brummytom wrote: »
    Selfish bitch.. what's wrong with canoeing in the park?

    ehhhh..... :pac:


    Let her go for it i say. Sure if she gets into trouble we can watch her die slowly on a webcam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Silly parents, don't they know there are cheaper and easier ways if they want to get rid of her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    While I disagree with the intervention of the Social services( for eff sake there are lots of jobs they could do in Amsterdam).
    ... but I think she is too young to understand the physical/emotional implications of her decision .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    ehhhh..... :pac:


    Let her go for it i say. Sure if she gets into trouble we can watch her die slowly on a webcam!


    Snuff, 13 year old girl, wet, maybe sharks.


    Appeals to everyone tbh


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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    No mention of school for her in any of the articles?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Why cant she just wait till she's 17 or 18 ...more expierence then ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    procure11 wrote: »
    While I disagree with the intervention of the Social services( for eff sake there are lots of jobs they could do in Amsterdam).
    ... but I think she is too young to understand the physical/emotional implications of her decision .

    That's what I thought at first, but she's being sailing all her life and already managed to sail to Britain alone

    It's a once in a life time opportunity to break a record like that, and if she's determined to do it she should have the chance to, imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    MarkR wrote: »
    No mention of school for her in any of the articles?

    Sure, she'll sail through her exams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Here was me thinkin I was hardcore going round Ireland last summer (23), then this b1tch nearly half my age comes along and steals me thunder :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Latchy wrote: »
    Why cant she just wait till she's 17 or 18 ...more expierence then ?
    I'm only guessing, the record was set already by a 17 year old this week (link) - maybe she is trying to become the youngest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    That's what I thought at first, but she's being sailing all her life and already managed to sail to Britain alone

    It's a once in a life time opportunity to break a record like that, and if she's determined to do it she should have the chance to, imo

    Well...each to their own really!...I personally would not support my daughter/son at 13 to sail round the world all in the name of breaking some world record.I would definitely support their dream but at that age I would be pushing for them to break a world record in Science or math tbh..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    brummytom wrote: »
    Sure, she'll sail through her exams.

    Brilliant mate. Had actually typed "Take a bow sir" when I spotted the appalling pun just in time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Brilliant mate. Had actually typed "Take a bow sir" when I spotted the appalling pun just in time.

    No need to praise me, that's going a bit overboard.



    I'm sorry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Latchy wrote: »
    Why cant she just wait till she's 17 or 18 ...more expierence then ?

    Because she's stupid, that's why.

    kids will say stupid things because they are too oblivious to reality so all of a sudden this girl thinks she's the next Bear Grylls. Anyway I would never let someone so young sail around the Earth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Would she be totally doing it on her own - or would there a another boat shadowing her own a distance away?

    If she was totally on her own, at 13, no way would I let her.
    She might have all the boat skills in the world but it just takes one strong wave and the strength of a 13 year old is useless in a storm of any strong kind fighting to stay afloat in the water - day or night!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Saibh wrote: »
    I'm only guessing, the record was set already by a 17 year old this week (link) - maybe she is trying to become the youngest.

    She is, she said so herself on a TV interview.
    Besides the fact she is extremely good looking and getting publicity out of it, if she makes it beyond the sailing career, she is a shoe-in to be a model in years to come.

    Example small pic and news: http://www.harbourguides.com/news.php/LAURA-DEKKER-SAILOR

    Her website: http://www.lauradekker.nl/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,817 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    She should set herself a smaller goal first before tackling something this big, like sailing the coast of Somalia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Saibh wrote: »
    I'm only guessing, the record was set already by a 17 year old this week (link) - maybe she is trying to become the youngest.
    Fair enough but what parent would want their 13 year old daughter out in for months on end in that no mans land called the sea ,regardless of what expierence or equipment she had ? .Mind you she is Dutch ,they by all acounts tend to want to do things differently

    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Because she's stupid, that's why.

    kids will say stupid things because they are too oblivious to reality so all of a sudden this girl thinks she's the next Bear Grylls. Anyway I would never let someone so young sail around the Earth.
    Exactly like who does she thing she is ..Sir Edmund Hillary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭WeeBushy


    Biggins wrote: »
    She is, she said so herself on a TV interview.
    Besides the fact she is extremely good looking and getting publicity out of it, if she makes it beyond the sailing career, she is a shoe-in to be a model in years to come.

    You'd make a crap pedo, she's average at best.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭In All Fairness


    brummytom wrote: »
    No need to praise me, that's going a bit overboard.



    I'm sorry

    / issues astern warning

    /then gets both coats


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    WeeBushy wrote: »
    You'd make a crap pedo, she's average at best.

    I hope I never make that category. :)
    Her publicity shots for the event (now cancelled) show future potential: hu0pc7.jpg

    As a parent of 4 kids, I'd woory like hell if they were older doing this.
    13 and no one nearby at ALL times? Not a hope in hell would we let her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Biggins wrote: »
    she is extremely good looking

    Where safer a place for her to be than alone in a sailboat thousands of miles away from anyone then? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Latchy wrote: »
    Fair enough but what parent would want their 13 year old daughter out in for months on end in that no mans land called the sea ,regardless of what expierence or equipment she had ? .Mind you she is Dutch ,they by all acounts tend to want to do things differently
    Know nothing about sailing, but even sailors with 10-20 years experience would find it hard to do this trip.

    Heard on the news if she was not allowed by Dutch authorities, she is going to use her New Zealand passport, but that mightn't work now if reports are true.
    Ms Dekker, whose parents support her trip, had warned prior to the ruling she would emigrate to New Zealand, where she can also claim citizenship, if the court prevented her from attempting the voyage.
    But Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant reported her New Zealand passport had expired.
    link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭WeeBushy


    Biggins wrote: »
    I hope I never make that category. :)
    Her publicity shots for the event (now cancelled) show future potential: hu0pc7.jpg

    Look at other photos and she has a HUGE nose. Maybe she'll grow into it though... if not it does allow for nasal sex*

    * in 5 years time of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    She's pregnant and wants to split the country.

    Good cover story though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Saibh wrote: »
    Know nothing about sailing, but even sailors with 10-20 years experience would find it hard to do this trip.

    Heard on the news if she was not allowed by Dutch authorities, she is going to use her New Zealand passport, but that mightn't work now if reports are true.
    I have a dutch brother in law and some of his ideas about stuff ie medicine ,alternative living ,were at times , bizzare to say the least .He was very arrogant like there was nothing he couldn't do ( of course he soon woke up to fact that like rest of us , he had his limatations ) So seeing this news report about yong dutch girl reminds me a bit of him although she is young which explains a lot and may not be so much arrogance .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I wish I had a yacht when I was 13... I would have gotten so much poon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Depends, how much experience does she have with sailing? What sort of charector is she, mature and brave, or an annoying little teenage girl with silly dreams? That's how it should be decided.

    TBH, I nearly stopped reading when I saw "liberal Dutch parenting". Sometimes liberals piss me off.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Silly parents, don't they know there are cheaper and easier ways if they want to get rid of her.

    They could get advice off the McCanns.


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