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Muna bhfuil / Mara?

  • 24-08-2009 09:55PM
    #1
    dlofnep
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    I kept seeing mara used in text, but up until now I've only heard muna. Are these both the same meaning?


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  • #2
    Micilin Muc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    'Mura' is in the caighdeán, 'muna' is how it is pronounced in a few of the canúintí, Conamara for example.


  • #3
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Alright, cheers - I just kept hearing muna, but kept seeing mura. That explains it.


  • #4
    Múinteoir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Múinteoir


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Alright, cheers - I just kept hearing muna, but kept seeing mura. That explains it.

    If in doubt, it's usually a dialectic thing.


  • #5
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Cool :)

    While I have you here Múinteoir - Could you explain the differences in pronounciation between An Modh Coinníollach and Aimsir Ghnáthchaite.

    For example with D'ól mé - You have d’ólfainn (Modh Coinníollach) and d’ólainn (Aimsir Ghnáthchaite).. I'm not sure of the differences in pronounciation between them.. And also d’ólfadh and d’óladh.. I mean, the F is silent anyways right? So - I'm kinda lost on how to differentiate between saying would and used to.. ?


  • #6
    Micilin Muc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Cool :)

    While I have you here Múinteoir - Could you explain the differences in pronounciation between An Modh Coinníollach and Aimsir Ghnáthchaite.

    For example with D'ól mé - You have d’ólfainn (Modh Coinníollach) and d’ólainn (Aimsir Ghnáthchaite).. I'm not sure of the differences in pronounciation between them.. And also d’ólfadh and d’óladh.. I mean, the F is silent anyways right? So - I'm kinda lost on how to differentiate between saying would and used to.. ?

    The f in the MC is usually pronounced as a h or as an f!


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  • #7
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    So - Dole-hin and Dole-in.. and Dole-hock / Dole-ock? That sound about right?


  • #8
    Micilin Muc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    dlofnep wrote: »
    So - Dole-hin and Dole-in.. and Dole-hock / Dole-ock? That sound about right?

    Sin é! I think it's pronounced as an f in Gaeilge na Mumhan.


  • #9
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Ceart go leor, grma a Mhic!


  • #10
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'm trying to translate my sig but having problems.

    I have - D'aontóinn le éinne chun ceart a dhéanamh ach ní aontóinn le éinne chun mícheart a dhéanamh.

    Does that sound about right - Is mícheart ok in terms of wrong in a sense of morals? And also - is there actually a noun for 'nobody' or do I have to use the negative form of a verb?


  • #11
    conchubhar1
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    you could use: [altho i find the above one grand and unambigious]

    cóir - just/rightful (i have only seen it used in reference to crime)
    cothrom - balanced
    cuí - appropriate
    dílis - genuine
    dleathach - lawful
    dlíthiúl - legal
    eithiciúl - ethical
    fíorga - righteous
    fíreannach - truthful
    ideálach - ideal
    ionraic - upright
    macánta - honest
    morálta - moral
    neamhiomrallach - unerring
    suáileach - virtuous
    slán - sound(?)
    uasal - honourable

    The bold ones are the most fitting, imo.

    you woud also have to use something like ''rud cothromach'' - or something like that to make it fit as an adjective (or whatever type of word it is)

    [Teasáras - G Bannister - 20 euro, priceless]


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