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why is ireland such a rip off

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    this thread is bullsh*t. I always get a coffee in the airport and it's pretty much the same price you'll pay anywhere else in Dublin. At most around €2.70. There's no way he paid €9 for a coffee and muffin. This is a stupid thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    Ireland is a rip off because for many years we were happy paying the prices that were being asked, and we were happy re-electing the same government.

    Now that we are feeling the effects of a global downturn we have all realised that the whole ripp-off mentality has become to ingrained and institutionalised to change easily.

    Anyone who pays €9 for a coffe and muffin is as much to blame as the person who cahrges it and the authorities who are happy for it to be charged in their airport.

    If it's too expensive, don't pay. If you pay, don't complain.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Long Onion wrote: »
    Anyone who pays €9 for a coffe and muffin is as much to blame as the person who cahrges it and the authorities who are happy for it to be charged in their airport.

    he didn't, it's a lie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭tarbuck


    I see the country itself as a very large version of a typical League of Ireland soccer club.
    ie Totally deluded, always chasing a payday that will never come, alwalys thinking short-term, living on past glories, generally doesn't know what it's doing, thinks it has a great product but in reality is bottom of the barrel quality, overcharges for that product, unsound infrastructure and economically unviable. Fortunately for these clubs there are just enough fools who'll hang around and 'believe the dream' to keep the shambolic state of affairs perpetuating .... much like this country itself come to think of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭DamoDLK


    tarbuck wrote: »
    I see the country itself as a very large version of a typical League of Ireland soccer club.
    ie Totally deluded, always chasing a payday that will never come, alwalys thinking short-term, living on past glories, generally doesn't know what it's doing, thinks it has a great product but in reality is bottom of the barrel quality, overcharges for that product, unsound infrastructure and economically unviable. Fortunately for these clubs there are just enough fools who'll hang around and 'believe the dream' to keep the shambolic state of affairs perpetuating .... much like this country itself come to think of it.

    Wha? Drogheda Utd?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    he didn't, it's a lie

    This is twice you've outright accused the OP of lying. While I agree that anyone who pays that much for a coffee and muffin is silly accusing them of lying when you don't have proof and haven't given them a chance to repsond is not on.

    Wait for the OP to respond.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    This is twice you've outright accused the OP of lying. While I agree that anyone who pays that much for a coffee and muffin is silly accusing them of lying when you don't have proof and haven't given them a chance to repsond is not on.

    Wait for the OP to respond.

    proof being that i'm there quite often and there's no way he's paying 5 or 6 euro for a muffin. I'll be there on Friday and i'll bump this thread with real-world prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    proof being that i'm there quite often and there's no way he's paying 5 or 6 euro for a muffin. I'll be there on Friday and i'll bump this thread with real-world prices.

    I'm not attempting to be smart but are you going to visit every coffee & muffin vendor.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I'm not attempting to be smart but are you going to visit every coffee & muffin vendor.

    2 or 3 maybe, i always have too much time on my hands in airports


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Dublin airport is cheap compared to some other airports like Charles-De-Gaulle which is the biggest rip off ever.
    A bottle of coke (400ml over there) costed €3.80 and a demi-baguette chicken sandwhich costed €5.20(But it was pretty nice though :D)

    That was the cheapest in all of CDG


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I don't think the guy behind the counter deserves abuse.

    If you won't pay the price, leave it on the counter and walk.
    Or better still tell the manager why you won't pay.

    Do you think the guy on minimum wage is pocketing the huge margins and collecting from the till every day?

    Have working as a hotel barman I've come across people like you OP :mad:
    Feeling ripped off? Complain to management, not the lowly sucker serving you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    mikemac wrote: »
    I don't think the guy behind the counter deserves abuse.

    If you won't pay the price, leave it on the counter and walk.
    Or better still tell the manager why you won't pay.

    Do you think the guy on minimum wage is pocketing the huge margins and collecting from the till every day?

    Have working as a hotel barman I've come across people like you OP :mad:
    Feeling ripped off? Complain to management, not the lowly sucker serving you

    Only in a drive-through fast-food place that was mentioned in another thread yeserday.:D


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055659781


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Mike...


    tel9 wrote: »
    why cant the dodgy government just go to the airport or any other shop and spend 20 euro and see what they get :mad:

    then fly to england cause its close by, buy the same items and see how much fecking change u get in sterling to what u get in euro:mad:

    and see how much ur fecking up the county :mad:

    They did....
    THE Ceann Comhairle minister John O'Donoghue, his wife Kate Ann, and O'Dono ghue's private secretary ran up travel bills of more than €100,000 on trips overseas during the course of two years.

    The taxpayer picked up the tab for Venetian water taxis costing €250, hotels that cost more than €900 a night, hair appointments and hat rentals. "Airport pick-ups" during a two-day trip to Lon*don cost €7,591.

    John O'Donoghue is hoping to pick up the No Frontiers gig..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    If you pay €9 for a drink and a bun that's your fault. Dublin airport has loads of food places and I'm pretty sure I bought a pint of Heineken in there at a quiet reasonable price, I'm pretty sure it was probably one of the cheapest pints in Dublin.

    Not only that there's at least two fast food including mcdonalds and they do a fairly reasonably priced breakfast too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    heres my opinion

    retailers gouge because they know irish people are very slow to complain , we see complaining as an all out attack on someones entire being , i have on several occasions complained in different outlets and on two occasions , another customer who was behind me in the quee actually turned on me and started to back up the gouging retailer , as i said , irish people take criticism very badly and therefore dont like to complain either as they see it as a sign of being an unpleasant person , its an immature attitude but i think its pretty widespread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Overheal wrote: »
    Mostly because the average person just doesnt give a ****. There aren't enough people in the country that are willing to stand up and say "Thats ****ing it."

    Come back to Ireland and stand up for us. For truth, honesty and freedom, the Irish way :cool:
    magick wrote: »
    if ppl in Ireland actually complained then their actually would be a change on how things are run and priced

    This is a myth about consumer power. Who are you going to complain to ? The teenager working the till at the newsagents ? What the feck do they care ? Does the guy stacking the shelves in Dunnes have any control over prices ?

    Long Onion wrote: »
    Ireland is a rip off because for many years we were happy paying the prices that were being asked, and we were happy re-electing the same government.

    Now that we are feeling the effects of a global downturn we have all realised that the whole ripp-off mentality has become to ingrained and institutionalised to change easily.

    Anyone who pays €9 for a coffe and muffin is as much to blame as the person who cahrges it and the authorities who are happy for it to be charged in their airport.

    If it's too expensive, don't pay. If you pay, don't complain.

    There's a forum on this site for Rip-off Ireland that's been up for about 6years. Ever since the Euro came in we've been getting ripped off pretty bad. Overnight the pound shop became the €2 shop ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    Come back to Ireland and stand up for us. For truth, honesty and freedom, the Irish way :cool:
    Ah shove off I cant be arsed.

    /Irish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    Ever since the Euro came in we've been getting ripped off pretty bad. Overnight the pound shop became the €2 shop ;)

    The local one became "Eurold Pound Shop" then they went upmarket and rebranded with a new name but everyone still refers to them as the Pound Shop just not in the shop:P

    But main rip off Ireland problem is choice, if your are in a UK high street you might be able to shop around and find the same item in a few stores but often in Ireland if you are looking for a specific item then your stuck with one shop and whatever they are charging, unless of course you want to spend your money online in another country which is so easy I rarley buy expensive items in Bricks and Mortar Irish stores.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    jus go to the mc donalds in the airport, they have the same prices there as they do everywhere else


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Look...when will people wise up...retailers will charge whatever they think the market will bear...can't really blame them for that.

    The only thing..I say the only thing..that will bring down prices is be discriminating ...shop around.

    See what happened when the public started flocking over the border.....prices came down...substantially.

    The flood of price reductions in Southern Supermarkets is a direct result of people voting with their feet and the arrival and expansion of shops like Lidle and Aldi..

    I will not buy bottled water

    I will not buy anything in O'Briens

    I shop around for best petrol prices

    I know the prices in Lidle and Aldi and JC'S

    I will not pay more that €2 for a cup of coffee.

    I will not drink in rip off pubs.

    Do this my friends an we might just beat those basterd gougers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Look...when will people wise up...retailers will charge whatever they think the market will bear...can't really blame them for that.

    The only thing..I say the only thing..that will bring down prices is be discriminating ...shop around.

    See what happened when the public started flocking over the border.....prices came down...substantially.

    The flood of price reductions in Southern Supermarkets is a direct result of people voting with their feet and the arrival and expansion of shops like Lidle and Aldi..

    I will not buy bottled water

    I will not buy anything in O'Briens

    I shop around for best petrol prices

    I know the prices in Lidle and Aldi and JC'S

    I will not pay more that €2 for a cup of coffee.

    I will not drink in rip off pubs.

    Do this my friends an we might just beat those basterd gougers.

    True. Most of my mates complain on a daily basis and the only reason i'm sick of it is because they constantly have new stories of how they were ripped off when they could have got a cheaper alternative.

    I still can't believe it's 1.80 on Dublin Bus. I've taken 4 hour bus journeys in other parts of the world for that price. And who ever has 80 cents in change. It's time to start holding on to the receipts. All those 20's add up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 bmtannam


    Overheal wrote: »
    Mostly because the average person just doesnt give a ****. There aren't enough people in the country that are willing to stand up and say "Thats ****ing it."

    You're right....I actually paid 1.75 for a regular small bottle of coke today and had'nt the gumption to reject it and put it back when told.
    I'm usually grumpy and assertive but I folded today.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    True. Most of my mates complain on a daily basis and the only reason i'm sick of it is because they constantly have new stories of how they were ripped off when they could have got a cheaper alternative.

    I still can't believe it's 1.80 on Dublin Bus. I've taken 4 hour bus journeys in other parts of the world for that price. And who ever has 80 cents in change. It's time to start holding on to the receipts. All those 20's add up.

    Sorry pal...don't agree on Dublin Bus...it's very good value for expensive, rip off gouging old Ireland.

    As for the 1.80 of course you can have it..just toss the 20 cent coins into a jar and fish out as required.

    But I guess you just can't be arsed....hmmm ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭tarbuck


    Sorry pal...don't agree on Dublin Bus...it's very good value for expensive, rip off gouging old Ireland.

    As for the 1.80 of course you can have it..just toss the 20 cent coins into a jar and fish out as required.

    But I guess you just can't be arsed....hmmm ?

    I give them the coppers too. Have no problem throwing a euro and 80cents worth of shrapnel into the slot to get my ticket.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    bmtannam wrote: »
    You're right....I actually paid 1.75 for a regular small bottle of coke today and had'nt the gumption to reject it and put it back when told.
    I'm usually grumpy and assertive but I folded today.

    Yep can I fess up to stumping up €2 for a bottle of coke at a Golf Club recently
    resolved to NEVER buy a drink from this source again..can get a 2 litre bottle of drinkable Coke from Aldi for 80 cent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Because people bend over and put up with it (and have done for too long). Sorry lads and lassies, the good times had to end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Because people won’t take a pay cut, they just think everyone else should.
    I noted on a recent debate about a trade argument that someone said, “if we let this happen next it will be the brickies then the plumbers and then the carpenters” bring it on I say that’s the whole point but people keep missing it. When we are getting paid more than the British we have a problem. It’s always the retailers, the construction workers, civil servants, nurses, doctors, consultants, taxi drivers etc.
    We are the problem, when we get paid less things will cost less IMHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    -greedy landlords who demand exhorbitant rents for commercial premises.

    - Alot (not all) of generously paid public sector employees means the private sector is continually having to play catch-up with high wages.

    -poor economies of scale in distribution, manufacturing etc. Our population is still relatively v. small.

    -our "compo culture" pushes insurances costs very high which is passed onto the consumer directly and indirectly.

    -being seen as a "soft-touch-price-insenstive-non-complaining" bunch by foreign owned retaillers and service providers does not help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    But I guess you just can't be arsed....hmmm ?

    Eh yeah i would be arsed. It's not like i throw away 10's and 20's when i get them. There are times when i simply don't have change. But good guess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭zebrafumbler


    tel9 wrote: »
    @ who squeeze every penny out of every person in ireland, its a shame, after i was told the price the poor fecker on the other side of the counter shat himself after i called him a robbing B, not his fault i know! but after a 4.00am start, ryanair ripping me off , and trying to sell me a cheese/burgar at 6.00am, and then smokeless fags at 6.10 , i was a little peed off already, anyone else feel my peeded off feeling?:mad:

    why cant the dodgy government just go to the airport or any other shop and spend 20 euro and see what they get :mad:

    then fly to england cause its close by, buy the same items and see how much fecking change u get in sterling to what u get in euro:mad:

    and see how much ur fecking up the county :mad:

    T'is a slightly nerdy thread to start. Smoke a spliff and read your post, guarantee you'll agree with me. N.E.R.D.


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