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Joseph Moshe - Arrested in LA by FBI for Going Public about Vaccine

  • 22-08-2009 04:44AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭


    Moshe was dramatically arrested and detained by the FBI last week having earlier called Dr True Ott's radio show claiming that Baxter was incorporating a bio weapon in its vaccine.Joseph Moshe - BioMedical Scientist

    Moshe was dramatically arrested and detained by the FBI last week having earlier called Dr True Ott's radio show claiming that Baxter was incorporating a bio-weapon in its vaccine.

    Have any of you read about this story?I seen it live on the internet.Scary if it's true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Which is scary? That someone could be arrested for making such an outlandish claim, or that such an outlandish claim could be true?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    bonkey wrote: »
    Which is scary? That someone could be arrested for making such an outlandish claim, or that such an outlandish claim could be true?

    This story is strange, they say they arrested him for making threats against the white house, fired tear gas into his car and he sat in it smoking,wtf?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/14/man-suspected-of-making-t_n_259330.html

    another account
    http://celebgalz.com/joseph-moshe-joseph-moshe-federal-building-drama/

    some video's
    http://pimpinturtle.com/2009/08/21/the-strange-case-of-joseph-moshe.aspx
    Now what did we just see here ?
    The suspect remained calm during a volley of tear gas and smoke grenade assualts. Seatbelt still on, not speaking or displaying any threatening behaviour whatsoever.
    We also see a very cautious swat team backing off very quickly after spraying a stream of pepper spray into the (now broken) drivers side window.
    However, the driver remained in his vehicle to the sheer amazement of everyone watching live.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1206515/Dramatic-moment-man-threatened-blow-White-House-Tasered-police-hour-stand-off.html#ixzz0OCOhnbQv
    Police then fired tear gas into the suspect's vehicle in an attempt to force him to surrender.
    But Moshe remained inside the car and briefly wound down the passenger window to let out the fumes.

    He withstood four rounds of chemical agents before officers shot out the drivers' window with a bean bag gun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Moshe was dramatically arrested and detained by the FBI last week having earlier called Dr True Ott's radio show claiming that Baxter was incorporating a bio weapon in its vaccine.Joseph Moshe - BioMedical Scientist

    Moshe was dramatically arrested and detained by the FBI last week having earlier called Dr True Ott's radio show claiming that Baxter was incorporating a bio-weapon in its vaccine.

    Have any of you read about this story?I seen it live on the internet.Scary if it's true.

    According to the real media, he was arrested for making "false bomb threat" against the whitehouse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    The Strange Case of Joseph Moshe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWf3kngl0oo


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giavJC7Q-TM
    Project Camelot and Bill Deagle reported a story that occurred on August 13 in Los Angeles involving Joseph Moshe, a biological-scientist with a dual citizenship in Israel.

    Moshe phoned Dr. Tru Ott's radio show and said that he had evidence that the vaccine company Baxter was making a bioweapon that would cause a plague when the vaccine was released.

    The day after Moshe phoned the radio show, a swat team surrounded his Volkswagen Beetle near the Federal building near the Israeli consulate which was apparently Moshes destination. The federal building was locked down at noon and employees were told to stay inside.

    The mainstream media spun a story that Moshe had threatened the White House with a bomb, that there were outstanding warrants against him and that he was depressed. No mention of that Moshe was a biological-scientist or the information he provided on Dr. True Otts radio show about the vaccine company Baxter.

    This resulted in an eight hour standoff. A large armored military vehicle with microwave weapon, a robot and other equipment were brought in. It was reported that the electronics of the Volkswagen and Moshes cell were disabled by the microwave.

    Moshe sat in the car smoking for hours before a robot broke a rear window of the car so officers could see inside and try to communicate.

    Police eventually fired 4 volleys of tear gas into the window of the Volkswagen. But Moshe remained inside the car and briefly wound down the passenger window to let out the fumes. Police broke the drivers side window of the Volkswagen and tasered Moshe.

    NBC LA reported on Aug 17 that Moshe was in jail but Dr. Deagle says that Moshe has been sent to Israel.
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loc...

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/world...

    http://www.loadedparanormal.com/viewt...
    http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Deagle...
    http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow that's a hilarious thread.

    "Here's something we don't know, therefore it must be part of a conspiracy!"

    For example they say this guy's mother refuses to comment this must mean she's part of his cover story.

    But then they trust completely unverified information from random sources.

    And then some guy has the same name and this guy is a scientist so therefore the first guy must have been arrested for vaccine stuff.

    Then the Nazis and the Mossad get involved.

    As I said hilarious.


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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    uprising wrote: »
    The Strange Case of Joseph Moshe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWf3kngl0oo


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giavJC7Q-TM
    Project Camelot and Bill Deagle reported a story that occurred on August 13 in Los Angeles involving Joseph Moshe, a biological-scientist with a dual citizenship in Israel.

    Moshe phoned Dr. Tru Ott's radio show and said that he had evidence that the vaccine company Baxter was making a bioweapon that would cause a plague when the vaccine was released.

    The day after Moshe phoned the radio show, a swat team surrounded his Volkswagen Beetle near the Federal building near the Israeli consulate which was apparently Moshes destination. The federal building was locked down at noon and employees were told to stay inside.

    The mainstream media spun a story that Moshe had threatened the White House with a bomb, that there were outstanding warrants against him and that he was depressed. No mention of that Moshe was a biological-scientist or the information he provided on Dr. True Otts radio show about the vaccine company Baxter.

    This resulted in an eight hour standoff. A large armored military vehicle with microwave weapon, a robot and other equipment were brought in. It was reported that the electronics of the Volkswagen and Moshes cell were disabled by the microwave.

    Moshe sat in the car smoking for hours before a robot broke a rear window of the car so officers could see inside and try to communicate.

    Police eventually fired 4 volleys of tear gas into the window of the Volkswagen. But Moshe remained inside the car and briefly wound down the passenger window to let out the fumes. Police broke the drivers side window of the Volkswagen and tasered Moshe.

    NBC LA reported on Aug 17 that Moshe was in jail but Dr. Deagle says that Moshe has been sent to Israel.
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loc...

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/world...

    http://www.loadedparanormal.com/viewt...
    http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Deagle...
    http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/

    So just to be clear do you believe any old ****e that's on the internet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    According to the real media, he was arrested for making "false bomb threat" against the whitehouse.

    Yes, the real media forgot to mention he was Joseph Moshe, a biological-scientist, read my post above.
    The REAL media also forgot to mention he had called a radio show 2 days earlier and warned against Baxter's swine flu vaccine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    King Mob wrote: »
    So just to be clear do you believe any old ****e that's on the internet?

    BAH,BAH,BAH BLACK .....................................


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    uprising wrote: »
    BAH,BAH,BAH BLACK .....................................
    Your absolutely right I'm a sheeple because I don't blindly believe the conspiracy site.

    Then maybe you can show some actual credible source that shows this guy was a scientist?

    Because to me that looks to be a complete fiction.

    But if a conspiracy site says it must be true right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    Moshe's neighbors said U.S. Secret Service agents went to Moshe's home Wednesday night, but he didn't answer the door.
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Man-Accused-of-White-House-Threat-Faces-Charges-53492847.html

    So this man threatens to blow up the white house, secret service knock on his door, didn't get an answer, and leave, what a load of bollllix...

    Federal agents and LAPD officers spotted Moshe in his red Volkswagen around 10 a.m. Thursday, but he drove off, prompting a chase that went north on the San Diego (405) Freeway and ended in a parking lot driveway just south of the federal building in Westwood.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    King Mob wrote: »
    Your absolutely right I'm a sheeple because I don't blindly believe the conspiracy site.

    Then maybe you can show some actual credible source that shows this guy was a scientist?

    Because to me that looks to be a complete fiction.

    But if a conspiracy site says it must be true right?

    look at this page
    http://www.biomedexperts.com/Profile.bme/295329/William_O_Dawson

    Publications


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    King Mob wrote: »
    Your absolutely right I'm a sheeple because I don't blindly believe the conspiracy site.

    Then maybe you can show some actual credible source that shows this guy was a scientist?

    Because to me that looks to be a complete fiction.

    But if a conspiracy site says it must be true right?

    CREDIBLE SITE, says .gov, will this prove he's a scientist?
    http://www.agri.gov.il/en/people/856.aspx

    I wonder how you'll try move the goal post again??, you've been proven wrong time and time again, yet still you bahhhhhhhhhhhhh:
    into the trailer now good fella, we'll take a nice trip to the slaughter house, bahhhhhhhh, that sounds great farmer brown, bahhhhhhhhh


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    uprising wrote: »
    look at this page
    http://www.biomedexperts.com/Profile.bme/295329/William_O_Dawson

    Publications
    Yea that's Bar-Joseph Moshe, not Joseph Moshe.

    And Bar-Joseph Moshe lives in Israel not LA.
    http://www.agri.gov.il/people/856.aspx

    Oh and they look entirely different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yea that's Bar-Joseph Moshe, not Joseph Moshe.

    And Bar-Joseph Moshe lives in Israel not LA.
    http://www.agri.gov.il/people/856.aspx

    Oh and they look entirely different.

    If you bothered to read anything you'll see he has dual citizenship


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    uprising wrote: »
    If you bothered to read anything you'll see he has dual citizenship

    And?

    They look different!

    One guy's name is Bar-Joseph the other is just Joseph.

    There is nothing to show that these guys are the same person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭Salvelinus


    uprising wrote: »
    BAH,BAH,BAH BLACK .....................................

    <mod snip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Ok I'm in the mood to hand out very long bans for people who havent learned how to act properly ... bespite being here a long time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭worldrepublic


    I really don't know what all the debate is for, I mean it's obvious, he's with the little grey aliens (who by the way have stated that they don't give a flying Fcuk about the vaccines -they just want the ancient pyramids for themselves). :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    King Mob wrote: »
    And?

    They look different!

    One guy's name is Bar-Joseph the other is just Joseph.

    There is nothing to show that these guys are the same person.

    well, the OP makes the claim that they are the same people, I know this may come as a shock to you but people do often shorten their names, hell I do it meself. so its not unusual that he chose to drop the Bar part when he is in the states.

    and the OP website has the photo from that website and the photo from the police files and I have to say there is a reasonable similarity between the two

    so if its not the same guy then can you provide some info as to who it is??


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    well, the OP makes the claim that they are the same people, I know this may come as a shock to you but people do often shorten their names, hell I do it meself. so its not unusual that he chose to drop the Bar part when he is in the states.

    and the OP website has the photo from that website and the photo from the police files and I have to say there is a reasonable similarity between the two

    so if its not the same guy then can you provide some info as to who it is??

    And some people have similar names. For example I am apparently a famous cricketer, rugby and soccer player.

    They don't look alike.
    They both have moustaches that's about it.
    23kwu1c.jpg

    And the only evidence that he was going to go public with anything is an anonymous report on the internet.

    And if this guy was going to blow the lid on the hole plot, why did they send a near army of SWAT to get him?
    Wouldn't they just send two guys in suits and make him disappear?

    And why is the "evidence" linking him to this plot still available?
    How hard would it be to take down one or two obscure government and science webpages?

    And how come they aren't doing this to the other "scientists" speaking out about the vaccine?

    Here's what I think happened.
    A guy sees this arrest on the news and gets it in his head that the government is doing something fishy. He goggles the guys name and finds this other guy with a similar name who works in virology (citrus plants are kinda like people) then this theorist jumps to the conclusion that the guy being arrested must be involved in swine flu.

    Not a stretch of the imagination?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    Joseph moshe was supposedly trying to get to the israeli consulate in L.A., he was caught at the federal building, both of which are on Wilshire Blvd, L.A..

    Federal Building
    travel.state.gov

    11000 Wilshire Blvd
    Los Angeles, CA 90024, USA
    Get directions


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    Los Angeles, CA 90048-5071

    Get Directions


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    OK then, if thats not the same person, who is the guy they arrested??

    is he the same guy who called coast to coast?? ya know, the one sayin he was a bioligist.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OK then, if thats not the same person, who is the guy they arrested??
    I don't know. I haven't claimed to know.

    And what difference does that make exactly?
    They look different.
    is he the same guy who called coast to coast?? ya know, the one sayin he was a bioligist.
    You mean the call in show that doesn't fact check and is taken in by pranks on occasion?


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    uprising wrote: »
    Joseph moshe was supposedly trying to get to the israeli consulate in L.A., he was caught at the federal building, both of which are on Wiltshire Blvd, L.A..

    Federal Building

    11000 Wilshire Blvd
    Los Angeles, CA 90024, USA
    Yep if I thought the government was coming after me that's the first place I'm going to go.

    How exactly do they know his destination?

    Or was he just near the building?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭uprising


    Who or what exactly was this man?, yesterday there were video's up on a site, now they are gone, but in these video's this man with no mask or any type of respirator, sat in the car as 4 can's of tear gas were thrown in, the amount of gas was only fully seen in the video's the stills dont do it justice, it was a huge amount of smoke/gas in the car, it had no effect whatsoever, then they sprayed him with what seemed a few litres of pepperspray into the face, STILL! he sat there no effect.
    This is the site and the video's have been taken off, it's worth a look even if it confuses things a little more. Theres a radio article about this strange case near the top of the page(borders on David Icke kinda stuff a little), but the reality defying video's are gone.
    http://pimpinturtle.com/2009/08/21/the-strange-case-of-joseph-moshe.aspx

    from the page: selective copy and paste
    So now that everybody is up to speed, I suggest you buckle up.
    This is where the Mad Hatters ride begins.
    Since Mainstream Media has virtually suspended any further mention of this story, lets reopen it.
    What you are about to discover is sure to surprise you.
    WHO IS JOSEPH MOSHE?
    Joseph Moshe (Moshe is the man's middle name) is a bio-scientist. He works (worked?) for a unit within Mossad. He is an Israeli citizen.

    Moshe did not suffer the same effects of the gas and pepper spray that others would have because he had built up an immunity to such weapons as a by-product of his Mossad training.

    Moshe was not handcuffed because he was not placed under arrest. After leaving police or FBI custody, he returned to Israel, where he is at this time.


    True or not I dont know

    Also on the page is a link
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/orlando2002/presentations/gcoleman/gcoleman.pdf
    which names Dr Joseph Moshe as one of the team, in a masonic looking symbol.
    Theres pictures of Dr Joseph Moshe on the page (I presume as the other project members are women), with hair 7 years ago.

    And maybe Joseph Moshe got a hair transplant and a bottle of just for men, he was in L.A. after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    and facial reconstruction, i suppose LA would be the place to get it alright though


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    uprising wrote: »
    Who or what exactly was this man?, yesterday there were video's up on a site, now they are gone, but in these video's this man with no mask or any type of respirator, sat in the car as 4 can's of tear gas were thrown in, the amount of gas was only fully seen in the video's the stills dont do it justice, it was a huge amount of smoke/gas in the car, it had no effect whatsoever, then they sprayed him with what seemed a few litres of pepperspray into the face, STILL! he sat there no effect.
    Yep that's weird alright.
    It must be a conspiracy!
    There's no other explanation.
    You certainly can't get ****ed up on drugs in LA,
    uprising wrote: »
    This is the site and the video's have been taken off, it's worth a look even if it confuses things a little more. Theres a radio article about this strange case near the top of the page(borders on David Icke kinda stuff a little), but the reality defying video's are gone.
    http://pimpinturtle.com/2009/08/21/the-strange-case-of-joseph-moshe.aspx
    So the take down all these videos but not the site that "links" this guy to viral research?
    Wow, the cover up squad is really crap at their job.
    uprising wrote: »
    from the page: selective copy and paste
    So now that everybody is up to speed, I suggest you buckle up.
    This is where the Mad Hatters ride begins.
    Since Mainstream Media has virtually suspended any further mention of this story, lets reopen it.
    What you are about to discover is sure to surprise you.
    Well it was covered by local mainstream news it just wasn't picked up nationally or internationally.
    But it sounds more sinister to say it's been suspended.
    uprising wrote: »
    WHO IS JOSEPH MOSHE?
    Joseph Moshe (Moshe is the man's middle name) is a bio-scientist. He works (worked?) for a unit within Mossad. He is an Israeli citizen.
    Hold up a tick. If that's his middle name then he can't be the doctor listed on the Israeli government website because that guy's last name is Moshe.
    uprising wrote: »
    Moshe did not suffer the same effects of the gas and pepper spray that others would have because he had built up an immunity to such weapons as a by-product of his Mossad training.
    Wow that's quite the leap of logic there.
    Why do they give Mossad training to a research scientist?
    uprising wrote: »
    Also on the page is a link
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/orlando2002/presentations/gcoleman/gcoleman.pdf
    which names Dr Joseph Moshe as one of the team, in a masonic looking symbol.
    Theres pictures of Dr Joseph Moshe on the page (I presume as the other project members are women), with hair 7 years ago.
    http://www.spoke.com/info/pEyUI1L/JosephMoshe

    He also spent time as a personal injury lawyer.
    And a financial adviser and a real estate agent.
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/joe/moshe


    uprising wrote: »
    And maybe Joseph Moshe got a hair transplant and a bottle of just for men, he was in L.A. after all.
    And maybe that's a completely different person?

    But I don't see how a hair transplant can change your entire face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    .... and the moral of the tale is.... don't phone radio shows saying nasty things about Baxter.

    According to Wikipedia, in early 2009 Baxter supplied an "unintentionally contaminated" vaccine material with a deadly influenza virus, to a series of European laboratories. The deadly strain was detected after it killed test animals in a lab. Thats a very serious "mistake" for a company that makes over $5 billion in sales (44% of it's profits) in vaccines and bio-pharmaceuticals.
    2009 avian flu contamination

    In early 2009 supplies of unintentionally contaminated vaccine material with Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 provided by Baxter International were sent to a series of European laboratories. The deadly H5N1 strain was mixed with the less harmful H3N2 subtype of the seasonal flu virus, and was detected after it killed test animals in a lab in the Czech Republic. Though there was a risk of serious consequences, Baxter claimed the controls over the distribution of the virus were stringent and there was little chance of the virus harming humans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 EXODUS251022


    Very strange, Ukraine Plague


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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope, nothing about a plague in the Ukraine here.
    the original claim was:
    Moshe was dramatically arrested and detained by the FBI last week having earlier called Dr True Ott's radio show claiming that Baxter was incorporating a bio weapon in its vaccine.Joseph Moshe - BioMedical Scientist

    Moshe was dramatically arrested and detained by the FBI last week having earlier called Dr True Ott's radio show claiming that Baxter was incorporating a bio-weapon in its vaccine.

    Have any of you read about this story?I seen it live on the internet.Scary if it's true.


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