Libyan release was trade deal

procure11 · 22-08-2009 12:34AM #1

A report by sky news quotes the son of the Libyan leader Ghadafi ...he says the the release of Megrahi was done by Tony Blair in exchange for juicy oil contracts.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Lockerbie-Bomber-Release-Linked-To-Trade-Deal-With-Britain-Says-Colonel-Gaddafis-Son/Article/200908315366896?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header_0&lid=ARTICLE_15366896_Lockerbie_Bomber_Release_Linked_To_Trade_Deal_With_Britain%2C_Says_Colonel_Gaddafis_Son

That would be fair trade in my opinion ...considering the dude reportedly has a few more weeks to live.

Adamcp898 · 22-08-2009 12:38AM

Sky News, that explains it

dlofnep · 22-08-2009 12:43AM

Ah, the Blood for Oil program.

brummytom · 22-08-2009 12:48AM

Even I knew that.

We want oil, they want their man.
They get their man, we get oil.

wes · 22-08-2009 12:54AM

I honestly doubt this, the likes of Ghadafi could care less about his people. So I doubt, he would have held up a lucrative oil deal, that would have made him rich for one guy. Lets be honest, dictators are not known for giving a crap about there people.

I reckon, this has more to 2 with getting Megrabi to drop his appeal, which could have been very embarrassing if it turned out that the guy was innocent.

Kalashnikov_Kid · 22-08-2009 12:55AM

I need to know if its on Fox news before I believe this. And if it makes the Daily Mail tomorrow...

procure11 · 22-08-2009 01:00AM

Kalashnikov_Kid wrote: »

I need to know if its on Fox news before I believe this. And if it makes the Daily Mail tomorrow...

Or the details are posted to your address..:D

K-Ren · 22-08-2009 01:25AM

I heard it was for a PS3 Slim.

Kalashnikov_Kid · 22-08-2009 01:31AM

'bout tree fiddy

FridaysWell · 22-08-2009 01:36AM

No Libyan was involved in Lockerbie, it was the Iranians or something. And yeah that sounds about right it probably was a trade deal. Tripoli just takes the money from its oil trade and gives it away to Africa, leaving the country in ruins, its health and education systems worse-then-third-world, and the people powerless and weak. Government over there is really corrupt, just care about their pockets.

procure11 · 22-08-2009 01:39AM

FridaysWell wrote: »

No Libyan was involved in Lockerbie, it was the Iranians or something. And yeah that sounds about right it probably was a trade deal. Tripoli just takes the money from its oil trade and gives it away to Africa, leaving the country in ruins, its health and education systems worse-then-third-world, and the people powerless and weak. Government over there is really corrupt, just care about their pockets.

You are not even too sure about your own assertions ...are you???

Buffy the bitch · 22-08-2009 01:48AM

About time the innocent man was set free...

ynotdu · 22-08-2009 01:49AM

procure11 wrote: »

A report by sky news quotes the son of the Libyan leader Ghadafi ...he says the the release of Megrahi was done by Tony Blair in exchange for juicy oil contracts.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Lockerbie-Bomber-Release-Linked-To-Trade-Deal-With-Britain-Says-Colonel-Gaddafis-Son/Article/200908315366896?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header_0&lid=ARTICLE_15366896_Lockerbie_Bomber_Release_Linked_To_Trade_Deal_With_Britain%2C_Says_Colonel_Gaddafis_Son

That would be fair trade in my opinion ...considering the dude reportedly has a few more weeks to live.

Yep WELCOME to the real world!:D

Damn sure it was a deal,there is public opinion,there is press releases,there is Govt public outrage,
then there is the Facts and never the twain will meet:)

nacho libre · 22-08-2009 02:06AM

wes wrote: »

I honestly doubt this, the likes of Ghadafi could care less about his people. So I doubt, he would have held up a lucrative oil deal, that would have made him rich for one guy. Lets be honest dictators, are not know for giving a crap about there people.

I reckon, this has more to 2 with getting Megrabi to drop his appeal, which could have been very embarrassing if it turned out that the guy was innocent.

he might not care about his people but it might also suit the colonel for this guy to drop his appeal.

FridaysWell · 22-08-2009 02:10AM

procure11 wrote: »

You are not even too sure about your own assertions ...are you???

Pretty sure there were no Libyans invovled. I didn't wanna sound like a big conspiricist but it was probably the Iranians with probable American help. Thats why I said 'something'

I should have said 'something like that' Silly me. . .

Libyans get phucked over by everyone, their own government and the outside too, taking a negative view.

At the end of the day its always the normal Joes that suffer, the poor people on the plane, the people on the ground at Lockerbie, and the people stuck with that mental dictator.

humberklog · 22-08-2009 02:15AM

wes wrote: »

I reckon, this has more to 2 with getting Megrabi to drop his appeal,

That does make a lot of sense up to a point and that point being that Megrabi is going to "drop" a lot sooner than the result of any appeal. And well those fearing such a result know.

shane86 · 22-08-2009 02:21AM

Nothing new, the British have been doing this for years. It is generally accepted as utter fact that zee Germans had to throw the game in the 1966 final to England as part of the surrender agreement in 1945. They were meant to throw her in the 1990 semi vs England as well, however with the recent acquisition of the citizens of East Germany meaning they would now have a bigger army they felt big enough for their jackboots and played to win.

FACT.

humberklog · 22-08-2009 02:24AM

shane86 wrote: »

Nothing new, the British have been doing this for years. It is generally accepted as utter fact that zee Germans had to throw the game in the 1966 final to England as part of the surrender agreement in 1945. They were meant to throw her in the 1990 semi vs England as well, however with the recent acquisition of the citizens of East Germany meaning they would now have a bigger army they felt big enough for their jackboots and played to win.

FACT.

What a lot of utter nonsense.

FACT.

nacho libre · 22-08-2009 02:24AM

whatever the truth is. eveything has been choreographed perfecly- from the american outrage to the english blaming the scots and then having the luxury of saying it was out of our hands.

of course as we all know there are no conspiracies only coincidences in this world. one such interesting coincidence was the meeting between the prince of darkness, Seif al-Islam Gaddafi and the Rothschild family recently in corfu. apparently they all just happened to be on holiday in corfu at the same time and decided to have lunch together.

FridaysWell · 22-08-2009 02:27AM

nacho libre wrote: »

whatever the truth is. eveything has been choreographed perfecly- from the american outrage to the english blaming the scots and then having the luxury of saying it was out of our hands.

of course as we all know there are no conspiracies only coincidences in this world. one such interesting coincidence was the meeting between the prince of darkness, Seif al-Islam Gaddafi and the Rothschild family recently in corfu. apparently they all just happened to be on holiday in corfu at the same time and decided to have lunch together.

hmm, interesting

just wondering how did you know that?

CHD · 22-08-2009 02:34AM

Good deal if its for oil, its like trading 12 eggs a day before they expire for a new car

longshanks · 22-08-2009 02:35AM

nacho libre wrote: »

whatever the truth is. eveything has been choreographed perfecly- from the american outrage to the english blaming the scots and then having the luxury of saying it was out of our hands.

of course as we all know there are no conspiracies only coincidences in this world. one such interesting coincidence was the meeting between the prince of darkness, Seif al-Islam Gaddafi and the Rothschild family recently in corfu. apparently they all just happened to be on holiday in corfu at the same time and decided to have lunch together.

gadaffi and the rothschilds met the devil? even kanye isn't on that guest list
i bet the devil ordered pork, jut to wind 'em all up. that'd be his style

humberklog · 22-08-2009 02:44AM

Chessboard diplomacy. Scots look to be doing their own judicially independent and morally courageous gesture, yanks feigning aghast disbelief and indignation, English drinking tea in Corfu with the other sidewinding bishops and a live person returning under such ambiguous moral jostling is far better all around than the bones of a man gaining unwarranted martyrdom. This suit fits all nicely in the positions they've taken.

Nothing to do with German football team unfotunately.

All's well in the world with this stuff going on, it means they're all talking and all agreeing behind closed doors.

nacho libre · 22-08-2009 04:12AM

FridaysWell wrote: »

hmm, interesting

just wondering how did you know that?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a631088-8aa6-11de-ad08-00144feabdc0.html

FridaysWell · 22-08-2009 02:33PM

nacho libre wrote: »

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a631088-8aa6-11de-ad08-00144feabdc0.html

Cheers man, thanks.

Nolanger · 22-08-2009 02:36PM

Thought they only put him on a plane to blow it up?

Wertz · 22-08-2009 02:46PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Sky News, that explains it

BBC's Newsnight carried a 15 min report on this last night...made for some very interesting accusations and was substantiated and backed up somewhat with circumstantial stuff. Chinese, Russians and French well in the mix too
Nothing really surprises me about middle east politics...the only thing that surprised me was the estimated oil reserves under the Libyan sands...
Blair was Bush's lapdog in the sojourn into Iraq for the exact same reasons...doesn't surprise me in the least that he'd be sent to broker a deal like this...

ynotdu · 22-08-2009 02:59PM

nacho libre wrote: »

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a631088-8aa6-11de-ad08-00144feabdc0.html

that links a good find nancho libre!below is a quote from his bio:

"In his four decades as Libya's 'Brother Leader', Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has gone from being the epitome of revolutionary chic to an eccentric statesman with entirely benign relations with the West."

— David Blair, diplomatic editor for The Daily Telegraph [5]

David Blair forgot the bit about Gaddafi,s benigness being prompted by Reagan bombing the sh*t out of Libyia including one of his palaces were a close relative died.

It seems to have had a dramatic effect on him,and was the beginning of the end of Libyia being the world leader in supplying arms to terrorist groups.

I see he is now thanking his "good friend"Gordon Brown,Prince Andrew and the Queen for there help in securing the release:)

difficult to know if that is his reported dementia or him just *winding* the US&UK up!

who knows may,be he is simply stating the facts?:)

wes · 22-08-2009 03:46PM

humberklog wrote: »

That does make a lot of sense up to a point and that point being that Megrabi is going to "drop" a lot sooner than the result of any appeal. And well those fearing such a result know.

I was under the impression, that even if he died, that the appeal would still go ahead.

Wertz · 22-08-2009 04:13PM

wes wrote: »

I was under the impression, that even if he died, that the appeal would still go ahead.

Who's going to spend money on trying to clear the name of a dead man in a western court? It's the unspoken thing here that his (Magrabi) early release is in return for a final admission of guilt in all but name, whether he's innocent or not...the only way his name may be cleared is through others being charged in connection with the bombing or through the release of state secrets after the 30/50/100 yr limit...

I love all this crying condemnation in the media and amongst western politicians that his return and the triumphalism is somehow a surprise or that it is as unsavoury as they make it out to be...what were they really expecting?
It's a slap in the face of relatives, sure...but the fact remains that there was questions surrounding his guilt so his release looks like a sentence quosh and therefore a victory for the man and for his country...

Biggins · 22-08-2009 05:09PM

So far I've come across the same basic details from the tabloid papers to the more substantial papers like the Times and Independent.
They all have editorially come to the same conclusion, be he innocent or not, his freedom came at a price, an oil price.

Sad, but as the darn stuff is running out, expect more of this crap type of behaviour!

Libyan release was trade deal

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