Do you believe in God?

dr.bollocko · 19-08-2009 02:51PM

Larkin501 wrote: »

I don't believe in God and I think anybody who does is retarded.

(couldn't care less if I get banned for that, just voicing an opinion) :mad:

Don't post in this thread again unless you have something to add other than the above trolling.

emeraldstar · 19-08-2009 02:52PM

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

This world is too perfect to be a pure fluke IMO

Seriously? What world are you living in?

I dunno, I think we're at the stage of advancement and understanding of science now that the belief in a big man in the clouds is no longer necessary to explain how we got here and give us something to latch on to..

The_Minister · 19-08-2009 02:52PM

GaNjaHaN wrote: »

Nope, and if you do it's either because you're an idiot, or you haven't thought about it enough.

And yet I'd rather spend time with someone who believed in God, than with a bigot.

stiff kitten · 19-08-2009 02:53PM

while in my life where i could see god working through people in everyday life

was going to be a nun but love the fellas too much but i definately believe

some of you will witness god at some stage in your life..
he has spoken through the prophets...think thats most of us

The_Minister · 19-08-2009 02:55PM

emeraldstar wrote: »

Seriously? What world are you living in?

He means perfect in the sense that if the world was only a tiny bit different, we wouldn't exist. There are so many things in regards to our planet, solar system and universe, that if they were slightly different would stop us living.

emeraldstar wrote: »

I dunno, I think we're at the stage of advancement and understanding of science now that the belief in a big man in the clouds is no longer necessary to explain how we got here and give us something to latch on to..

Except that we still can't explain what caused the big bang, what started everything.

Biggins · 19-08-2009 02:56PM

No.

mobius42 · 19-08-2009 02:58PM

We should set up a new forum called "Not this again?!" where mods of other forums can send threads dealing with the same old arguments e.g. God, scumbags, foreigners.:rolleyes:

BraziliaNZ · 19-08-2009 02:58PM

no, but i bet when i'm on my deathbed literally sh1tting myself, i'll be offering myself up to god and jesus and all that is good in heaven, bet most of you will do the same!

Novella · 19-08-2009 02:59PM

After I made my Communion, I was at mass with my parents. When the priest said "Body of Christ", I replied "No, I saw that lady making it in England!", pointing at a nun sitting in the front row!!!!

I had been to England the week before, visiting my dad's aunt who is a nun there and had actually seen nuns making the bread for church!

So after that my parents weren't too keen on bringing me to mass and now I am a "pagan" as they say!

emeraldstar · 19-08-2009 03:00PM

The_Minister wrote: »

He means perfect in the sense that if the world was only a tiny bit different, we wouldn't exist. There are so many things in regards to our planet, solar system and universe, that if they were slightly different would stop us living.

Yep I know that, but I mean in the sense that if there was a god, surely then 'perfect' would actually mean 'perfect', and all the crap like war, famine, etc. wouldn't exist. So if a god exists then it's far from perfect. But for a world that was not the creation of a god it is pretty perfect.

The_Minister wrote: »

Except that we still can't explain what caused the big bang, what started everything.

Yeah, but I just think we're far too intelligent now to view as plausible the idea of The Big Man sitting in the clouds watching over us, smiting us, whatever.

BigEejit · 19-08-2009 03:05PM

The_Minister wrote: »

And yet I'd rather spend time with someone who believed in God, than with a bigot.

Um, isnt that out of the frying pan and into the fire?

I voted maybe, but now I'm not sure :pac:

Long Onion · 19-08-2009 03:06PM

Do you believe in life after love?

Now there's a question ...

AthAnRi · 19-08-2009 03:07PM

Larkin501 wrote: »

I don't believe in God and I think anybody who does is retarded.

(couldn't care less if I get banned for that, just voicing an opinion) :mad:

Just out of interest, would you say that the Man who dreamed up the Big Bang Theory was retarded?

As a very intellegent, and very intersting Priest once said to me "I don't think there is a God I know there is one". I also believe in our Lord and Savious Jesus Christ I just wish I could A) know more about him and

be more like him.

highlydebased · 19-08-2009 03:13PM

genericguy wrote: »

nope, i believe in logic, science and the pursuit of knowledge. I do not believe in blindly accepting that there's some beardy bloke in the sky that hates gheys and needs money.

Although if said beardy bloke comes and visits me, I'll kiss mary harney.

+1 for that

BigEejit · 19-08-2009 03:15PM

AthAnRi wrote: »

Just out of interest, would you say that the Man who dreamed up the Big Bang Theory was retarded?

As a very intellegent, and very intersting Priest once said to me "I don't think there is a God I know there is one". I also believe in our Lord and Savious Jesus Christ I just wish I could A) know more about him and be more like him.

I dont run down anyones beliefs*, my Dad always is very religious and I respect that. But I dont think that standing/sitting/kneeling in a musty building listening to the orders of a man who I did not vote for is going to bring anyone closer to any deity than being at home browsing porn.

*unless said beliefs are technological in nature -> "your 1 meter 90 euro monster HDMI cable does NOT give a better picture than my 4 euro HDMI cable"

philologos · 19-08-2009 03:16PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Im not sure to be honest...

dont really believe in christian concept of God of some old white dude up in the clouds...

but I guess there might be some other thing out there.

The Christian concept of God doesn't involve a white dude in the clouds. Just to clarify

Anyhow, yes I do believe in the Judeo-Christian God, and that He has revealed Himself from the beginning to the present. I believe that this God can interact with us, and not only interact with us, but change entire lives in the process.

dr.bollocko · 19-08-2009 03:22PM

sugarcubes wrote: »

Stephen Hawking? Well he's physically retarded if that's what you mean? Tho I'm sure it's god's will that he has to go thru life like that.

Banned

AthAnRi · 19-08-2009 03:24PM

sugarcubes wrote: »

Stephen Hawking? Well he's physically retarded if that's what you mean? Tho I'm sure it's god's will that he has to go thru life like that.

It was actually a Priest by the name of Georges Lemaître that thought up the big bang theory. does that make him "Retarded"

Cookie_Monster · 19-08-2009 03:24PM

I believe in Cod, is that good enough?

philologos · 19-08-2009 03:27PM

Larkin501 wrote: »

I don't believe in God and I think anybody who does is retarded.

(couldn't care less if I get banned for that, just voicing an opinion) :mad:

This is one thing I happen to note in this debate. How come instead of actually bringing something positive to the table many of the non-believers insist on throwing mere ad-hominems at people who follow a way of life that they clearly don't understand? Incredible.

The_Minister wrote:

I don't believe in God, but I don't dislike those who do, and I don't consider them intellectually inferior to me.

This is worthy of commendation. If more people were willing to hold this kind of attitude towards religious discussion it would be a lot easier to have in the first place.

dfolnep wrote:

Nope. I don't rule out the existence of something powerful and almighty, but I seriously doubt it actually exists.

I find myself often pondering about what created the Universe, and what created existence. Have existence always existed, and if not - how did it just become? Still - I don't think a higher powerful created this.

I've been there, and occasionally I do doubt my beliefs. I think believers will doubt from time to time.

emeraldstar wrote:

I dunno, I think we're at the stage of advancement and understanding of science now that the belief in a big man in the clouds is no longer necessary to explain how we got here and give us something to latch on to..

Religion explains different types of claims to science. Religion tends to deal with metaphysical questions about the whys of life. Science explains to us a bit more about the how.

brummytom wrote:

I do, yes.

Not going to start professing my beliefs and shove them down other peoples' throats because there's no need - everyone can make up their own minds.

Hate atheists who refuse to accept that other people can have opinions though. I don't care if believing in God makes me an idiot or a sheep.

It's peculiar the way that some people feel that they have it all worked out. There's still much I don't understand, and much I will probably never understand in this life time.

My name is URL wrote:

I don't believe in a creator

Interesting, do you believe in a creation?

AthAnRi · 19-08-2009 03:31PM

BigEejit wrote: »

I dont run down anyones beliefs*, my Dad always is very religious and I respect that. But I dont think that standing/sitting/kneeling in a musty building listening to the orders of a man who I did not vote for is going to bring anyone closer to any deity than being at home browsing porn.

*unless said beliefs are technological in nature -> "your 1 meter 90 euro monster HDMI cable does NOT give a better picture than my 4 euro HDMI cable"

Believe that if you wish. I once thought along similar lines to that but not anymore.

mewso · 19-08-2009 03:34PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

no, but i bet when i'm on my deathbed literally sh1tting myself, i'll be offering myself up to god and jesus and all that is good in heaven, bet most of you will do the same!

Yes indeed God and Jesus welcome con-men into Heaven with open arms. "I'll buy that CD now Your Honour and we'll just forget I downloaded it last year".

I don't believe God exists. I do believe the blokes who wrote the bible existed.

Goduznt Xzst · 19-08-2009 03:35PM

I think too much emphasis is put on this God character.

Satan, Hell and invisible demons flying around on Earth right now, probably watching you read this and jumping in and out of South American children is much more interesting.

I don't know how Catholics live knowing that every day of their lives invisible demons are behind them, smelling their hair, watching them naked in the shower. Waiting patiently for them to make a mistake so that they can jump into their bodies and take control of them.

People say they believe in a God like that's all they believe. It's all the other whacked out sh!t that they also believe that is much more disturbing.

philologos · 19-08-2009 03:36PM

mewso wrote: »

I don't believe God exists. I do believe the blokes who wrote the bible existed.

How does one explain what they experienced?

TanG411 · 19-08-2009 03:36PM

TheZohan wrote: »

So if you support Leeds United and think they'll win the Premiership in the next 5 years does that give people the right to call you retarded?

Yes

TanG411 · 19-08-2009 03:39PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Don't post in this thread again unless you have something to add other than the above trolling.

Not trolling. Just giving an opinion. I wouldn't see it as trolling. Trolls write stuff just to cause a fight. I wasn't starting one.

Plus trolls always seem to have about 1 or 2 post counts. They rarely sign onto their trolling site. I sign into boards everyday because my real life is crap.

Sticking with thread, I still don't believe in God. It was created to ease the pain of bereavent and to give false hope.

Long Onion · 19-08-2009 03:40PM

God was a good idea until he was hijacked by organised religion. For me the reason that it doesn't work is that people insist on building a defined set of rules around something which is by nature, incapable of being defined.

God is what ever you want it to be, organised religion is generally a pain in the arse.

CRonaldo · 19-08-2009 03:40PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Banned

Infracted

philologos · 19-08-2009 03:44PM

Long Onion wrote: »

God was a good idea until he was hijacked by organised religion. For me the reason that it doesn't work is that people insist on building a defined set of rules around something which is by nature, incaple of being defined.

One has to realise that the church isn't infallible, it is capable of making mistakes. Nobody is perfect. The Biblical text, is different, it is the standard we aim to reach as Christians.

As for rules, is it really all that inconceivable that God who created the world in benevolence to us gave us rules and tenets about how best to live our lives both for Him and for other people in our communities?

Long Onion wrote: »

God is what ever you want it to be, organised religion is generally a pain in the arse.

Although this is a nice thought. How can so many contradictory ideas about God all be true?

Dardania · 19-08-2009 03:46PM

I have faith, but not religion

Where does your thought process go when the body dies? does it die with the body, or does it go somewhere else?

Do you believe in God?

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