Over 33% of prison committals in 2008 are foreigners.

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 01:33PM #1

OVER six per cent of all asylum claims in Ireland are coming from people who have already broken the law and are facing criminal charges.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/jul/19/over-6-of-all-asylum-seekers-already-facing-crimin/

'Prison committals for the year jumped to 13,557 from just 11,934 in 2007. Almost a third of committals were for non-nationals. The increase placed a massive strain on the prison system, with nine of the State's 15 prisons operating at or above their full bed capacity during the year.'

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/2500-jailed-for-not-paying-fines-as-prisons-feel-squeeze-1859831.html

It seems our prisons are now enjoying the colour, vibrancy and enrichment as the rest of the population.:rolleyes:

unwyse · 15-08-2009 01:35PM

takes all sorts;) keeps my beeemr looking great though;)

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 01:36PM

unwyse wrote: »

takes all sorts;) keeps my beeemr looking great though;)

Prison warden?

TheZohanS · 15-08-2009 01:41PM

They should expel anyone who breaks the law and is sentenced to a jail term.

mike65 · 15-08-2009 01:45PM

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/jul/19/over-6-of-all-asylum-seekers-already-facing-crimin/

OVER six per cent of all asylum claims in Ireland are coming from people who have already broken the law and are facing criminal charges.

Figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune show that 51 people applied for refugee status from behind bars in the first three months of this year.

The vast majority of the claims came from individuals detained at Cloverhill remand prison where they were facing criminal charges for crimes including drug trafficking, robbery and fraud.

Its a crime wave!

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/2500-jailed-for-not-paying-fines-as-prisons-feel-squeeze-1859831.html

THE number of people being jailed for failing to pay fines has almost doubled in one year, the Irish Independent has learned.

Some 2,520 people were locked up last year because they couldn't, or wouldn't, pay court- ordered fines compared to just 1,335 the previous year, new figures reveal.

The economic downturn and increased enforcement of committal warrants by gardai are the main factors for the rise in jail terms handed out to cash-strapped householders.

It is understood most cases related to non-payment of fines for road traffic offences. A small number are believed to involve other minor offences, including non-payment of television licence fines.

Now thats a story.

Dudess · 15-08-2009 01:47PM

PaulieD wrote: »

It seems our prisons are now enjoying the colour, vibrancy and enrichment as the rest of the population.:rolleyes:

So you are a racist?

CHD · 15-08-2009 01:47PM

Dey tuk our jurbs tbh

TheZohanS · 15-08-2009 01:48PM

CHD wrote: »

Dey tuk our jurbs tbh

Dey tuk er prison spaces!

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 01:48PM

mike65 wrote: »

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/jul/19/over-6-of-all-asylum-seekers-already-facing-crimin/

Its a crime wave!

That equates to one person claiming asylum every second day from behind bars and you see it as a non story? Jesus wept. We are being taken for mugs.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0722/breaking63.htm

A shockingly high figure of approx. 300 million is being spent on asylum seekers each year. This is an unaccountable amount of money. It averages at approx. 20,000 per asylum application. As I said, mugs.

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 01:49PM

Dudess wrote: »

So you are a racist?

What what what?:rolleyes:

dlofnep · 15-08-2009 01:50PM

TheZohan wrote: »

They should expel anyone who breaks the law and is sentenced to a jail term.

How can they extradite if the crime is committed in Ireland? Otherwise they wouldn't be in prison here?

They should certainly deport any criminals, especially drug dealers. For some reason, I think the OP's motives go a little beyond criminality and is a pop at the non-national community of Ireland.

If there are issues, we should tackle them. Anyone drug-trafficking here should be immediately deported. If they don't respect the lives of us and our children, then they have lost their right to stay here.

Still - we shouldn't use this as a means of creating hysteria. I've had the pleasure of working with some great foreigners, and I think this may be a pop at the entire community - although I could be wrong.

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 01:52PM

dlofnep wrote: »

How can they extradite if the crime is committed in Ireland? Otherwise they wouldn't be in prison here?

They should certainly deport any criminals, especially drug dealers. For some reason, I think the OP's motives go a little beyond criminality and is a pop at the non-national community of Ireland.

If there are issues, we should tackle them. Anyone drug-trafficking here should be immediately deported. If they don't respect the lives of us and our children, then they have lost their right to stay here.

Still - we shouldn't use this as a means of creating hysteria. I've had the pleasure of working with some great foreigners, and I think this may be a pop at the entire community - although I could be wrong.

It is a pop at our immigration policies, or lack of them. The vast majority of foreigners in Ireland are game ball, my issue is with mass immigration, not immigration.

Giving asylum to criminals, madness.

TheZohanS · 15-08-2009 01:53PM

dlofnep wrote: »

How can they extradite if the crime is committed in Ireland? Otherwise they wouldn't be in prison here?

I said expel, not extradite.

gurramok · 15-08-2009 01:57PM

From that Irish Times link, 300 million quid a yr spent on asylum applications. 2.26bn quid over the last 7yrs, now what the hell has FF been doing to spend so much on this area?

It is understood most cases related to non-payment of fines for road traffic offences. A small number are believed to involve other minor offences, including non-payment of television licence fines.

They should just become drug dealers, claim they had an underprivileged upbringing and they would get suspended sentences.

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:00PM

gurramok wrote: »

From that Irish Times link, 300 million quid a yr spent on asylum applications. 2.26bn quid over the last 7yrs, now what the hell has FF been doing to spend so much on this area?

If FF brought the issue up the immigration industry would have screamed racism. It is time for the politically correct gloves to come off.

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:02PM

CHD wrote: »

Dey tuk our jurbs tbh

Is that the best you can come up with?:rolleyes:

dlofnep · 15-08-2009 02:03PM

TheZohan wrote: »

I said expel, not extradite.

You edited your post, silly goose

Or maybe dlofnep is stoned on lemsip.

Probably the latter.

My name is URL · 15-08-2009 02:08PM

The prison system would be fcuked even if their were no migrants

it's very Irish to blame our problems on external forces though, and nothing new

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:10PM

My name is URL wrote: »

The prison system would be fcuked even if their were no migrants

it's very Irish to blame our problems on external forces though, and nothing new

We have major social problems, for sure. But importing more criminals is hardly going to solve the problem now is it?

Size=everything · 15-08-2009 02:30PM

Why are all your posts to do with immigration, religion or race?

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:31PM

Size=everything wrote: »

Why are all your posts to do with immigration, religion or race?

You have spent your Saturday reading the posts of PaulieD. You will go far.

SLUSK · 15-08-2009 02:32PM

PaulieD wrote: »

OVER six per cent of all asylum claims in Ireland are coming from people who have already broken the law and are facing criminal charges.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/jul/19/over-6-of-all-asylum-seekers-already-facing-crimin/

'Prison committals for the year jumped to 13,557 from just 11,934 in 2007. Almost a third of committals were for non-nationals. The increase placed a massive strain on the prison system, with nine of the State's 15 prisons operating at or above their full bed capacity during the year.'

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/2500-jailed-for-not-paying-fines-as-prisons-feel-squeeze-1859831.html

It seems our prisons are now enjoying the colour, vibrancy and enrichment as the rest of the population.:rolleyes:

Foreigners are usually much poorer than normal irish people, this is no excuse for commiting crimes of course, but poor people commit more crimes that would land you in jail.

dlofnep · 15-08-2009 02:33PM

Seven out of 10 favour immigration restrictions (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
PaulieD

Calls for Ireland to open its borders to Nigerians! (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
PaulieD

Over 33% of Irish prison population are foreigners. (Multi-page thread 1 2)
PaulieD

Agenda much? :rolleyes:

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:37PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Seven out of 10 favour immigration restrictions (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
PaulieD

Calls for Ireland to open its borders to Nigerians! (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
PaulieD

Over 33% of Irish prison population are foreigners. (Multi-page thread 1 2)
PaulieD

Agenda much? :rolleyes:

If you have a problem with any of my posts, I suggest you report them. Everything I have posted has been backed up with facts, figures and links.

Size=everything · 15-08-2009 02:38PM

PaulieD wrote: »

You have spent your Saturday reading the posts of PaulieD. You will go far.

No I just noticed that whenever you post its about immigration, race or religon.

Robbo · 15-08-2009 02:38PM

It's so refreshing to have a good old "let's blame the immigrants" thread. They're damn near extinct now that when AH shakes it's collective fist at the sky, it's due to impotent rage at "fatcat bankers" who range from the counter staff in their local AIB to Roberto Calvi.

Can we make it complete by accusing anyone in favour of anything less than a pogrom of being part of an imaginary PC brigade?

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:40PM

SLUSK wrote: »

Foreigners are usually much poorer than normal irish people, this is no excuse for commiting crimes of course, but poor people commit more crimes that would land you in jail.

That is a cop out, growing up, I would have been considered "poor" but I never committed crimes except for knacker drinking and such like.

We have no clue how many foreigners are in the country, never mind their background. It is a crazy situation.

My name is URL · 15-08-2009 02:40PM

PaulieD wrote: »

We have major social problems, for sure. But importing more criminals is hardly going to solve the problem now is it?

I agree that there should be background checks done on anyone moving to Ireland, but it's a drop in the ocean when you take into account the amount of problems here already

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:41PM

Robbo wrote: »

It's so refreshing to have a good old "let's blame the immigrants" thread. They're damn near extinct now that when AH shakes it's collective fist at the sky, it's due to impotent rage at "fatcat bankers" who range from the counter staff in their local AIB to Roberto Calvi.

Can we make it complete by accusing anyone in favour of anything less than a pogrom of being part of an imaginary PC brigade?

If you have nothing to contribute please dont post. The ostrich should be the Irish national bird.

Robbo · 15-08-2009 02:43PM

PaulieD wrote: »

If you have a problem with any of my posts, I suggest you report them. Everything I have posted has been backed up with facts, figures and links.

Except you don't.

33% of prison committals may be non-Irish nationals, unfortunately 89% of the prison population is Irish.

Have a look here at the Prison Services report for last year. Page 16 to save you a bit of time.

PaulieD · 15-08-2009 02:43PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I agree that there should be background checks done on anyone moving to Ireland, but it's a drop in the ocean when you take into account the amount of problems here already

It is not a drop in the ocean, immigrants make up 15-20% of our population yet they make up 33% of our prison population.

Over 33% of prison committals in 2008 are foreigners.

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