Will the Irish State collapse?

darkman2 · 15-08-2009 01:26AM #1

Very interesting discussion on Newstalk today with Kevin Myers. He said our State faces complete societal and political collapse. Hard to argue with tbh. Have you an exit strategy for the upcoming collapse? Ireland could end up literally third world with starvation and poverty for the majority. Are we facing this collapse into anarchy do you think? Are you worried about the immediate future that Ireland could be a failed state? Bare in mind we are talking Zimbabwe or Somalia here - a collapse into lawlessness and anarchy. Spending 60 billion - taking in 30 - seems inevitable tbh and I don't know whether Irish people realise the potential armegeddon that is going to occur yet...

IvySlayer · 15-08-2009 01:27AM

darkman2 wrote: »

Very interesting discussion on Newstalk today with Kevin Myers. He said our State faces complete societal and political collapse. Hard to argue with tbh. Have you an exit strategy for the upcoming collapse? Ireland could end up literally third world with starvation and poverty for the majority. Are we facing this collapse into anarcy do you think? Are you worried about the immediate future that Ireland could be a failed state?

Nope.

Sierra Oscar · 15-08-2009 01:29AM

No, it wont. The current government falling ≠ state collapsing.

K4t · 15-08-2009 01:30AM

Thanks for the lulz, OP.

And to answer your question, No.

zonEEE · 15-08-2009 01:30AM

No, if the country isnt sorted out in the next few years the eu will step in.

anonymous_joe · 15-08-2009 01:31AM

darkman2 wrote: »

Very interesting discussion on Newstalk today with Kevin Myers. He said our State faces complete societal and political collapse. Hard to argue with tbh. Have you an exit strategy for the upcoming collapse? Ireland could end up literally third world with starvation and poverty for the majority. Are we facing this collapse into anarchy do you think? Are you worried about the immediate future that Ireland could be a failed state? Bare in mid we are talking Zimbabwe or Somalia here - a collapse into lawlessness and anarcy. Spending 60 billion - taking in 30 - seems inevitable tbh and I don't know whether Irish people realise the potential armegeddon that is going to occur yet...

The recession's ending in some countries.

Economic downturns and upturns tend to be cyclical, we went up loads, we're coming down a little, we will go up again.

rossie1977 · 15-08-2009 01:34AM

darkman2 wrote: »

Ireland could end up literally third world with starvation and poverty for the majority. Are we facing this collapse into anarchy do you think? Are you worried about the immediate future that Ireland could be a failed state? Bare in mid we are talking Zimbabwe or Somalia here - a collapse into lawlessness and anarcy.

yeah i see that, it will be worse than zimbabwe, ireland will become pass third world and become fourth world :pac:

ottostreet · 15-08-2009 03:30AM

I don't think it will collapse, but I think its going to get worse first. I finally know of a person who has lost their job due to Steven, and I can see the effects on the pub and club industry through my own work, and its continuing to go downhill. I've decided to leave as soon as I'm finished college for a year or two, and hopefully, when I come back, things will be on the upturn!

jape · 15-08-2009 03:41AM

darkman2 wrote: »

Very interesting discussion on Newstalk today with Kevin Myers. He said our State faces complete societal and political collapse. Hard to argue with tbh. Have you an exit strategy for the upcoming collapse? Ireland could end up literally third world with starvation and poverty for the majority. Are we facing this collapse into anarchy do you think? Are you worried about the immediate future that Ireland could be a failed state? Bare in mid we are talking Zimbabwe or Somalia here - a collapse into lawlessness and anarcy. Spending 60 billion - taking in 30 - seems inevitable tbh and I don't know whether Irish people realise the potential armegeddon that is going to occur yet...

hahahahahaha

amacachi · 15-08-2009 03:46AM

The Irish State will collapse at some point, I'd be surprised to see any countries still around in their current forms in a few hundred years. But hey, I've got the OP on ignore so maybe there were some reasonable points raised. :P

ascanbe · 15-08-2009 03:58AM

darkman2 wrote: »

Very interesting discussion on Newstalk today with Kevin Myers. He said our State faces complete societal and political collapse. Hard to argue with tbh. Have you an exit strategy for the upcoming collapse? Ireland could end up literally third world with starvation and poverty for the majority. Are we facing this collapse into anarchy do you think? Are you worried about the immediate future that Ireland could be a failed state? Bare in mid we are talking Zimbabwe or Somalia here - a collapse into lawlessness and anarcy. Spending 60 billion - taking in 30 - seems inevitable tbh and I don't know whether Irish people realise the potential armegeddon that is going to occur yet...

It could well collapse. Because of economic mismanagement; the idea that 'there is no such thing as society' as espoused by Thatcher, Reagan, etc. and wholeheartedly supported by Myers and his ilk.
I'm here at 3:48 am, no job to go to tomorrow, responding to this.
Thankfully i have no mortgage or family to support.
Those that do, i wish them the best.
Fake 'free marketeers' will probably flock to this thread in order to blame socialism, the public sector, blah, blah, blah.
Of course they're not truly for a free market; just a government than is in step with their craven, ill-thought out, ideology.
So here we are.
The aforementioned Mr. Myers is beyond contempt and, perhaps, redemption.
At this point, i don't care.

K4t · 15-08-2009 04:00AM

I can't drink water from the sink taps and the roads near my house are third world or worse. Surely it can't get even worse?

rossie1977 · 15-08-2009 04:22AM

K4t wrote: »

I can't drink water from the sink taps and the roads near my house are third world or worse. Surely it can't get even worse?

it can, alot worse, i thought roads were bad in this country till i visited africa, i saw open sewers with water running down the street beside houses in morocco and the smell, unbearable

darkman2 · 15-08-2009 04:46AM

amacachi wrote: »

I've got the OP on ignore

Why? How did I offend this boardsie - seems I have offended most at this stage - come on - why? I could be Kevin Myers you know;)

But im not - nice to see im controversial though which is what I aim to be...

And yes, you all don't realise yet how bad things are - you will soon...the country will go bankrupt.

I would like to point people to the fact we have a larger deficit then California and no one will lend to them anymore - the state is about to declare bankruptcy so I don't know what will happen to us!

An Fear Aniar · 15-08-2009 05:02AM

strongr wrote: »

No, if the country isnt sorted out in the next few years the eu will goosestep in.

Fixed if for ya.

.

Kev_ps3 · 15-08-2009 06:55AM

Kevin Myres said the state will collapse on Newstalk, shocked:eek:

dunnomede? · 15-08-2009 08:41AM

it seems to me that myers is making a mountain out of a molehill. yes i know that a lot more are unemployed than in previous years. undoubtedly this is costing us a significant amount in social welfare payments etc but to think or even believe that it could land us in the sort of sh!t that third world countries are in is blowing things out of all proportion. yes things will probably get worse before they get better but to draw a comparison to countries where hundreds of thousands die of starvation is scare mongering and exageration of the highest order.

P.S. apparently i can post rationaly whilst drunk unless im so drunk that i've deluded mysef into beliving my own codswallop

P.P.S. disregard any typo's as mentioned previously i'm drunk

dunnomede? · 15-08-2009 08:43AM

oh wait its AH....
I for one would like to welcome our new third world overlords

stovelid · 15-08-2009 08:48AM

I, for one, cannot wait until I get to drive around the post-apocalyptic, dystopic landscape of South Dublin in a souped-up Peugeot with rocket-launchers.

I'm not too crazy having to rumble with Tina Turner though, but needs must.

goldenbrown · 15-08-2009 08:57AM

hopefully the greens with go ahead and insist on their shape on this hairy nama, FF will say no, and then we have a general election and choose as a society what each party offers as a solution to this galway tent property crisis,

right now...thank god for being in the euro...europe is our saving

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-08-2009 09:46AM

Why is that the moment Ireland gets into a bit of toruble, the EU is expected to ride in and save day, absolving the country from all sence of responsibility?

The moment it does, it'll be a case of "leave the money on the counter , there, and **** off, will you? We don't want your sort around here!"

ParkRunner · 15-08-2009 10:18AM

The Irish State won't collapse but the government surely will..unless there is still some sector of Irish society that thinks the government have done a good job over the past decade. Any takers?

Jenroche · 15-08-2009 10:36AM

I find it laughable that people will expect the EU to bail us out after we voted no to Lisbon. Last year we were still on the pig's back so we voted no and basically said "Fcuk off, we don't need you!" Now that times are hard we want the EU to sort out our problems. Wouldn't surprise me if we got the same response from them. Economic karma, folks. :rolleyes:

Jen ;->

leitrim lad · 15-08-2009 10:45AM

i bought a little row boat, mainly for fishing, but when i seen the recession coming, and the carry on of the banks and the wafflers we elected to the dail, i decided we were taking on too much water, so i bought a little boat,
just big enough for me the woman and the kids,

ha, ha ,biffo no space for you anymore, you slob,,,,,,,,,,

and as for kevin myres, dont get me started on that ,,,,

Riamfada · 15-08-2009 10:56AM

Ireland becoming a third world country?Personally I look forward to the inevitable flood of

"Alight Bud. Im buzzin' yeh on d'email cause me aulefella left me a million shackles. Turns out we had the same bleedin da! Anyway giz a go of ure bank account details and sort code so I can send ya da bills caus the gardai have me bank locked and Ill split the cash wit yeah ...reeet?"

sneem-man · 15-08-2009 10:56AM

Could the last person leaving,please turn off the lights...

almostnever · 15-08-2009 11:04AM

Would we have zombies?

irish_bob · 15-08-2009 11:24AM

stovelid wrote: »

I, for one, cannot wait until I get to drive around the post-apocalyptic, dystopic landscape of South Dublin in a souped-up Peugeot with rocket-launchers.

I'm not too crazy having to rumble with Tina Turner though, but needs must.

two men enter , one man leave , two men enter , one man leave

Pompey Magnus · 15-08-2009 11:33AM

Ah all we will have to do is send a letter to the Queen, apologise for thinking we could run this country by ourselves, and ask Britain very politely to come back whilst promising to be a good little colony in the future and to be be no more trouble.

Problem solved.

El Weirdo · 15-08-2009 01:16PM

ascanbe wrote: »

It could well collapse. Because of economic mismanagement; the idea that 'there is no such thing as society' as espoused by Thatcher, Reagan, etc. and wholeheartedly supported by Myers and his ilk.
I'm here at 3:48 am, no job to go to tomorrow, responding to this.
Thankfully i have no mortgage or family to support.
Those that do, i wish them the best.
Fake 'free marketeers' will probably flock to this thread in order to blame socialism, the public sector, blah, blah, blah.
Of course they're not truly for a free market; just a government than is in step with their craven, ill-thought out, ideology.
So here we are.
The aforementioned Mr. Myers is beyond contempt and, perhaps, redemption.
At this point, i don't care.

And to put the cherry on the cake, your clock is 10 mins slow...:(

Blackjack · 15-08-2009 01:25PM

Charco wrote: »

Ah all we will have to do is send a letter to the Queen, apologise for thinking we could run this country by ourselves, and ask Britain very politely to come back whilst promising to be a good little colony in the future and to be be no more trouble.

Problem solved.

this is indeed what Myers would have us do.

Seriously OP - Kevin Myers?. FFS.

Will the Irish State collapse?

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