Impatient drivers taking the fun out of driving

Mossy Monk · 06-08-2009 01:08PM

Big_G wrote: »

These cars have an ability to be driven properly, just not by the people who own them.

I drive one of those small cars and I am constantly held up by dickheads in bigger cars.

Big_G · 06-08-2009 01:21PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I drive one of those small cars and I am constantly held up by dickheads in bigger cars.

There are exceptions. The gf drives a polo like a ****in maniac. I'm so proud.

spoon · 06-08-2009 01:37PM

There's a few things that do my nut in on the roads. I experience being the slow driver as well as being held up.
I have a classic car that isn't the fastest, but i usually do my best to let people past, and never get a chance to venture into the overtaking lane. However, the amount of seriously dangerous overtaking i see when in the car is unreal. I generally pull into the hard shoulder when i see i'm holding someone up, but i wouldn't do this when I'm on a corner, because i've no idea what's around the bend, nor would people over taking, but this does not stop people over taking me on the corner. The amount of near misses i've seen is just silly.

In my day to day car, i get annoyed by people sitting in the over taking lane. My biggest peeve, is people who only see their turning signals as a novelty, especially on a roundabout.

ShooterSF · 06-08-2009 01:37PM

OP You never have to worry about me tailgating you. Unfortunately you won't like the reason

If I see a Micra ahead I give it a wide berth until an opportunity to overtake happens. I have had a few close calls with Micras and have developed an irrational fear of them!

kingtut · 06-08-2009 01:38PM

I'm sick to the teeth of reading about driving complaints!

If you do not like someone's driving then do one of the following:

1) Put up with it!
2) Note down their reg and report them to traffic watch.
3) Get their attention if possible and verbally tell them in a polite manner what they did - warning may lead to punches!

What's the point in complaining about someone being a sh*t driver if you do nothing about it?! We all need to speak up when someone does something wrong!!

/rant

Lorrs33 · 06-08-2009 01:40PM

Big_G wrote: »

I think the point I was trying to get at is that it always seems to be someone in a Micra/Yaris/Polo/insert small car here/ who seems to be holding everyone up, possibly because they have poor spatial relations, have a fear of driving because of it and hence the small car. These cars have an ability to be driven properly, just not by the people who own them.

Micras=banned. From the roads. And possibly boards.

I'm sorry, my financial situation only allowed me to afford a Micra and if you went onto the Motors forum, you would find that Micras are recommended as starter cars. And as for people who are able to afford more expensive small cars, why should they be criticised for buying a car that suits them and not one that's bigger than it needs to be? Everyone has to start somewhere, we weren't all born with a ****ing steering wheel in our hands!

Big_G · 06-08-2009 01:46PM

Sigh.
"Do you find something humerous about my appearance? This was the largest auto that I could afford" etc.

I was not talking about the cost of the car. I was talking about micra drivers having a certain attitude to the road. I drive a ****heap. But its a bigger ****heap than a micra.

Wait. That didn't come out right.

Randy Shafter · 06-08-2009 01:56PM

kingtut wrote: »

I'm sick to the teeth of reading about driving complaints!

If you do not like someone's driving then do one of the following:

1) Put up with it!
2) Note down their reg and report them to traffic watch.
3) Get their attention if possible and verbally tell them in a polite manner what they did - warning may lead to punches!

What's the point in complaining about someone being a sh*t driver if you do nothing about it?! We all need to speak up when someone does something wrong!!

/rant

Ranting and raving is that way>>>>

But seriously, i usually find that people who drive bigger cars think they own the fecking road and can be the most impatient of them all!

Lorrs33 · 06-08-2009 01:56PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

OP You never have to worry about me tailgating you. Unfortunately you won't like the reason
If I see a Micra ahead I give it a wide berth until an opportunity to overtake happens. I have had a few close calls with Micras and have developed an irrational fear of them!

Awh bless

son.of.jimi · 06-08-2009 02:02PM

This Happens to me a bit, I'm on a cruiser so i don't fly by all traffic all the time and most days i'm just contempt going with the traffic but when someone is right up my h**e for a couple of miles and we come to a red light. . .

That's when I get off the bike and they Properly Back off after my 'polite brief conversations' . . .

He he he, fun fun fun. . .

tech77 · 06-08-2009 02:29PM

dollybird09 wrote: »

stopped at lights in Clontarf earlier, one car in front of me... didnt seem to notice that lights had turned green.. so I gave him a min to realise and then just tapped the horn.... next minute the driver gets out, comes back to car and starts shouting at me for being an ignorant impatient b*tch and said he'd smash my car up if he ever saw me again .. I prompty took his licence plate number and reported him... prick scaring me :mad:

A flash of the lights may be a subtler way to wake the guy up.

I tend to use the lights.
The horn (even if a tap) can be interpreted (wrongly of course in this case) as aggression.

Either way he was an a$$hole to do what he did.
I'm guessing if you were a guy (you're a female i take it) he wouldn't go near you.

plissken · 06-08-2009 04:49PM

super-rush wrote: »

I hate slow arse ba$tards in the fastlane almost as much as i hate cnuts who tell me to get out of it even though i'm not holding anyone up. I'm on the speed limit so i'll stay there.

You sir are everything thats wrong with drivers in this country, it is not a fast lane its the overtaking lane, so unless your overtaking get the f**k out of it, its not your job to enforce the speed limits:mad:

Big_G · 06-08-2009 04:57PM

plissken wrote: »

You sir are everything thats wrong with drivers in this country, it is not a fast lane its the overtaking lane, so unless your overtaking get the f**k out of it, its not your job to enforce the speed limits:mad:

+1 I don't know you super-rush. But I hate you.

Novella · 06-08-2009 05:24PM

Clearly there was no need for this guy to call you and your sister **** but in all fairness, you have admitted to driving slowly and he wasn't to know you were doing so because your sister was sick.

Driving a Micra is no excuse for driving ridiculously slowly! I drive a 1.1 litre car and have never had any problems with moving sufficiently fast!

mandysmithers · 06-08-2009 05:36PM

Big_G wrote: »

I think the point I was trying to get at is that it always seems to be someone in a Micra/Yaris/Polo/insert small car here/ who seems to be holding everyone up, possibly because they have poor spatial relations, have a fear of driving because of it and hence the small car. These cars have an ability to be driven properly, just not by the people who own them.

Micras=banned. From the roads. And possibly boards.

I drive a Yaris, and I've often overtaken Mercs and Audis. Granted, a lot of drivers of Yarises (sp??) and Micras are slow enough, but not all of us!

I bought it because it's economical, not because I'm afraid of driving or have poor spatial relations. Although, it's great for parking in small spaces in which you'd never fit a bigger car

Mc Love · 06-08-2009 05:46PM

If any car gets on my goat than any other its a Micra and their drivers. W

Micra's should be scrapped and their drivers given something else or taken off the road!

token56 · 06-08-2009 07:43PM

Big_G wrote: »

I think the point I was trying to get at is that it always seems to be someone in a Micra/Yaris/Polo/insert small car here/ who seems to be holding everyone up, possibly because they have poor spatial relations, have a fear of driving because of it and hence the small car. These cars have an ability to be driven properly, just not by the people who own them.

Micras=banned. From the roads. And possibly boards.

Hey now I take offence to that. I have a 98 micra and I can guarentee you most times I am one of the fastest cars on the motorway when I'm on it. Its rare if I'm ever over taken, but if there is someone behind I'll certainly let them pass. I think I may have even set a new speed record for a standard micra today. But maybe I'm the exception. Point is not all micra drivers a slow bad drivers.

Lorrs33 · 06-08-2009 08:43PM

Novella wrote: »

Clearly there was no need for this guy to call you and your sister **** but in all fairness, you have admitted to driving slowly and he wasn't to know you were doing so because your sister was sick.

Driving a Micra is no excuse for driving ridiculously slowly! I drive a 1.1 litre car and have never had any problems with moving sufficiently fast!

I never said I was driving purposely slow, I was careful going over ramps and a pedestrian crossing (which is a ramp) and has wooden walls around it so you can't see if anyone's crossing until you reach it. And I was next to a flippin Garda Station so I wasn't going to speed up excessively just to satisfy the p***k behind me. And I didn't use my Micra as an excuse, I was merely saying that barely any car can take off at the speed of light.

soups05 · 06-08-2009 09:16PM

i think at some stage we have all been tailgated/stuck behind a slow driver. what gets me mad is when i am on a motorway and i'm overtaking a line of slow moving cars/trucks. i'm sitting at 120kph and then some tosser comes flying up doing 140kph and starts flashing thier lights.

if i judge it safe to pull in then i will, but i will not allow myself to be builled into moving left into a gap that offers little room to slow down to the left lane speed. i would also be reluctant to move into the space a driver has left for braking distance from the car in front.

plus i hate when i get past the slower moving cars/trucks and the tailgater expects me to move instantly to my left. its safer to move ahead a little to give them braking distance for when i move over instead of cutting them up and scaring them witless.

oh and in the past,when my child was rushed to hospital and i had to follow the ambulance, the driver warned me to make my way there on my own and not to copy his driving as he is well trained. it took me twice as long to get there driving at the proper speed but at least i got there. say what you like but there is no excuse for anyone to go above the speed limilt unless they have gotten the proper training and are allowed by law to do it. (garda,ambulance,firemen etc)

rant over (sorry for any offence caused)

kingtut · 06-08-2009 09:28PM

After reading soups05 post, nobody and I mean nobody should have to justify why they drive safely. It is the dangerous drivers who only care about themselves that should cop on and explain why they feel the need to risk other people's lives.

Fair play to you soups05 (and the other like minded people in this thread)!
I'm glad there are still a few law abiding, safe drivers on the roads.

YraggarY · 06-08-2009 10:14PM

soups05 wrote: »

oh and in the past,when my child was rushed to hospital and i had to follow the ambulance, the driver warned me to make my way there on my own and not to copy his driving as he is well trained. it took me twice as long to get there driving at the proper speed but at least i got there. say what you like but there is no excuse for anyone to go above the speed limilt unless they have gotten the proper training and are allowed by law to do it. (garda,ambulance,firemen etc)

rant over (sorry for any offence caused)

My apologies for cutting your quote down, but this specific part is what I wish to respond to.
There are occasions when an ambulance is not available, or will simply take far too long to arrive, and which, in a severe emergency, warrants you getting into your own car and driving to the nearest hospital. Now to use a purely hypothetical situation; if your child, or anybody's child, had ingested something toxic (white spirits, rat poison etc.) and you call 112, and are told that the nearest ambulance will be with you in 30 minutes, then what are you to do? Do you a) Wait patiently while your child stops breathing in your arms, b) Use your medically untrained mind to do what you think a doctor might do, or c) Get you and your child into your car and drive as quickly and as safely as possible to the nearest hospital. Keep in mind that in serious emergencies such as the one above, every second does indeed count. And if you can make it to the hospital in 15 minutes, whereas it would take the ambulance 30 minutes to arrive, plus maybe 10 minutes to get to the hospital - 40 minutes in total, then being perfectly honest, which option would you take?

kingtut wrote: »

After reading soups05 post, nobody and I mean nobody should have to justify why they drive safely. It is the dangerous drivers who only care about themselves that should cop on and explain why they feel the need to risk other people's lives.

Fair play to you soups05 (and the other like minded people in this thread)!
I'm glad there are still a few law abiding, safe drivers on the roads.

Indeed, nobody should have to justify why they drive safely; safe driving should be the biggest part of every road users daily life. However, people who are driving safely, adhering to speed limits and such, but are causing the person stuck behind them to succumb to the nasty effects of road rage, certainly shoulder part of the blame. If you are traveling at what reads 120kmh on your speedo, you aren't aways necessarily doing that speed. Many speedometers have an average of an 8% difference in what they read, and the actual speed at the wheels. So if you're traveling what you think is 120kmh, you may indeed only be traveling at 110.4kmh. When you find somebody driving along doing this in the overtaking lane, instead of using the lane for its proper purpose of overtaking, it can get incredibly frustrating. I usually drive at the reading of 130kmh on the motorway, because I know that that reading on my speedometer is within the 10% limit that the Gardaí use on speed cameras. Obviously, I adjust my speed relevant to the driving conditions at the time, but you need to realise that people are always going to want to get somewhere in a hurry. To police the roads yourself by blocking the overtaking the lane is not only illegal, it is downright dangerous. (Caveat: I'm not saying that YOU personally are doing this kingtut, it is merely an observational statement.)

- Gary

slimjimmc · 06-08-2009 10:29PM

YraggarY wrote: »

However, people who are driving safely, adhering to speed limits and such, but are causing the person stuck behind them to succumb to the nasty effects of road rage, certainly shoulder part of the blame.

Sorry, but this is part of the problem, the road rager blaming the law abiding safe driver (as described above) for his impatience. This driver in front is not to blame in any way for the person stuck behind them allowing himself to succumb to the nasty effects of road rage. BTW this doesn't apply to non law abiding drivers such as lane-hoggers, etc. who are fair game.

I agree with the rest of your post.

P.C. · 06-08-2009 10:44PM

slimjimmc wrote: »

Sorry, but this is part of the problem, the road rager blaming the law abiding safe driver (as described above) for his impatience. This driver in front is not to blame in any way for the person stuck behind them allowing himself to succumb to the nasty effects of road rage. BTW this doesn't apply to non law abiding drivers such as lane-hoggers, etc. who are fair game.

I agree with the rest of your post.

I hope you are not trying to defend somone who drives in the overtaking lane.

MmmmmCheese · 06-08-2009 10:52PM

I have taken to blowing kisses and smiling sweetly at any drivers who get impatient with me on the road.

On the other hand though drivers who drive at a ridiculously slow snails pace and speed up and drive in the middle of the road when you try to overtake them also piss me the feck off!

Lobster · 06-08-2009 11:03PM

I hate those people who drive close behind lorries or other slow moving vehicles, with no intentions (or power) of overtaking, holding you up because its too dangerous to overtake them both. Back off and let someone else have a chance!

slimjimmc · 06-08-2009 11:19PM

P.C. wrote: »

I hope you are not trying to defend somone who drives in the overtaking lane.

I think you'll find my second last sentence includes anyone driving in the OT lane when not performing an overtaking manoeuvre. (ar$e already covered

)

slimjimmc wrote: »

Sorry, but this is part of the problem, the road rager blaming the law abiding safe driver (as described above) for his impatience. This driver in front is not to blame in any way for the person stuck behind them allowing himself to succumb to the nasty effects of road rage. BTW this doesn't apply to non law abiding drivers such as lane-hoggers, etc. who are fair game.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Another annoyance is trucks in the overtaking lane, especially those going 0.1kph faster than the yoke they're overtaking. Do truck drivers know they're not supposed to be there?

06-08-2009 11:41PM

slimjimmc wrote: »

Another annoyance is trucks in the overtaking lane, especially those going 0.1kph faster than the yoke they're overtaking. Do truck drivers know they're not supposed to be there?

On a two lane duel carriageway/motorway it's legal for a truck to overtake, but on a three lane duel carriageway/motorway, trucks are banned from lane three.

Trucks are (should be) fitted with speed limiters, this makes the task of overtaking muuuch longer than it should be, it really needs the overtaken truck to ease off and let the other guy pass. Most dont' :mad:

kingtut · 06-08-2009 11:53PM

YraggarY wrote: »

Indeed, nobody should have to justify why they drive safely; safe driving should be the biggest part of every road users daily life. However, people who are driving safely, adhering to speed limits and such, but are causing the person stuck behind them to succumb to the nasty effects of road rage, certainly shoulder part of the blame.

I am shocked by this statement! If I am in a 100km/h zone doing 100km/h (yes I know the speedo is not 100% accurate) then I am obeying the law. If someone is 'stuck' behind me then I am certainly not to blame! They are for attempting to drive over the legal speed limit. I am not policing the roads in anyway by doing this, just simply choosing to drive in a legal and safe manner.

06-08-2009 11:57PM

kingtut wrote: »

I am shocked by this statement! If I am in a 100km/h zone doing 100km/h (yes I know the speedo is not 100% accurate) then I am obeying the law. If someone is 'stuck' behind me then I am certainly not to blame! They are for attempting to drive over the legal speed limit. I am not policing the roads in anyway by doing this, just simply choosing to drive in a legal and safe manner.

Are you preventing them from passing you? i.e. sitting in the overtaking lane while the lane to your left is clear for example, or worse creeping past slower vehicles at their speed +1kmh thus taking a couple of Kilometers to pass.

slimjimmc · 07-08-2009 12:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

On a two lane duel carriageway/motorway it's legal for a truck to overtake, but on a three lane duel carriageway/motorway, trucks are banned from lane three.

Trucks are (should be) fitted with speed limiters, this makes the task of overtaking muuuch longer than it should be, it really needs the overtaken truck to ease off and let the other guy pass. Most dont' :mad:

Legal on a dual carriageway but no fun if you're waiting ages on him to finish the job. Definitely not legal on a 2-lane motorway on the basis of
(a) lane 2 is the OT lane and
(b) the max speed limit for trucks (real ones not small ones) is 80kph.
Rules of the Road

You must not drive a type of vehicle that is restricted to a maximum vehicle speed limit of 80 km/h or less in the traffic lane nearest the centre median of the motorway (the outside lane). An exception to this prohibition applies at any location where the speed limit is 80km/h or less.

Impatient drivers taking the fun out of driving

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