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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    Willie i couldnt care less if you dislike half the squad i really dont care, what you keep on missing is that normally say one of the decent posters may come on and say i would like to see such an such a player sold to generate funds so we can buy (they usually insert a players name here)

    That to me and the majority of posters here is fine and normal i might agree or strongly disagree but at the least that poster can back up their agrument for selling that particular Arsenal player. You come along and want Arsenal to sell these players and you cant offer not even one replacement!!! 99% of your posts are ridiculous tbh.

    You really do sound like an idiot with referring to the Eboue fan club.

    I was waiting for you to stoop to getting personal, you do Eboue proud.
    Ignored:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    Anyways, back on topic....

    Do we reckon Huntelaar would be worth signing? Tottenham and Stuttgart are now effectively out of the race, and Real have just given Huntelaar's squad number of 23 to returning striker Esteban Granero. They seem to seriously want rid of this chap and may need to lower their transfer fee demands. I think Huntelaar would be a welcome addition, providing it was not at the expense of the much needed DM and DC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭DenMan


    I can see him and van Persie playing very well together. :)

    From a defensive point of view, if Toure gets sold that will be 40 mill in the bank, but whether it gets re-invested in players is another thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Ther's as much chance of Wenger selling Silvestre as there is of him buying Huntelaar. No chance in other words.

    I'm getting worried with these sales. I really hope AW knows what he's doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭Roddy23


    I'm getting worried with these sales. I really hope AW knows what he's doing.

    Ditto. Coming into the transfer market, I'd have loved if we were in for Huntelaar, but now we've bigger fish to fry. We need a defensive midfielder. We also will need a new centre back, if Toure heads off to Citeh. I hope Wenger knows what he's doing.

    On another unrelated note, anybody heading over to the Emirates Cup next weekend? Heading over on the Saturday myself, Arsenal v Atheltico Madrid, hopgin to miss the Rangers v PSG game :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Some absolute sh*te being talked on this thread... guess that's the silly season for ya.

    On Today's business, the sale of Toure, i have decidedly mixed feelings. £16m is decent business for a player on his last year of contract who seemingly wants to leave, but at the same time, I do think his sale would be a massive loss. He may not be as technically accomplished as Gallas, but his pace and workrate mean Sagna and Clichy have far more opportunities to get forward than they would otherwise. Also, when you consider the price tags being bandied about for possible replacements like Haangeland and Lescott, i do think whatever money gotten from the sale will be just pissed down the drain. Gallas and Vermaelen may be the first choice now, but I still think more prem experience is needed in the CBs cover. It'd be no improvement if we went back to relying on Djourou and Senderos as cover.

    on Bendtner, anyone who thinks £10m would be a good piece of business is off their rocker. Now that Ade's gone, there is no real strength or even aerial threat in the attacking members of the squad. He got 15 goals last season, one less than Ade in the league when a substantial amount of his appearances were in the last 20 mins of a game at RM. He's only 21, he's 6'4 , he's got a decent touch and he's strong. Even for a squad player, you'd find it difficult to replace someone like Bendtner for less than £10m. I really hope all this is sh*te talk. If he played for any other team he'd be hailed as the next big thing. Yet people here put him on a par with Darren Bent ffs...

    as for Eboue; too many people here hate him with a passion. So much so that they are blind to his value. He's got pace, he works hard off the ball and despite his weakness in delivery, creates more chances than people seem to realise. At the moment there's only Walcott for RM, after Eboue you're looking at Ramsey or Wilshire really. Sell him by all means if a decent offer comes in, but people need to realise he wont be as easy to replace as is suggested. I'd hold onto him myself for his versatility down that right flank.

    As for Huntelaar: he's not what we need. RVP and Eduardo are similar enough players, i'd only look at getting in someone like Huntelaar when the weaker areas of the squad, namely a starting CM, and cover for both RM and CB are finalized. A buy like that should only be icing on the cake so to speak.

    Unt finally: The Kalou rumours have actually been some of my favourite all summer. Walcott's very lightweight for RM, and Kalou doesn't half do a bad job there, he'd be good cover at least and still has a lot of unfulfilled promise from his lack of game time with the Russian Mafia Front (remember, this was the player the Holland FA were doing everything in their power to nationalise). But the more pleasing aspect of it if it were true (which i still doubt of course), would be that it signals Wenger's intent to play 4-3-3 more often next season as he thrives most as a wing forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    keano_afc wrote: »
    Ther's as much chance of Wenger selling Silvestre as there is of him buying Huntelaar. No chance in other words.

    I'm getting worried with these sales. I really hope AW knows what he's doing.

    Off course Wenger knows what he's doing, come on guys a bit of faith, the only question is are he's hands been tied by the board and Im begining to suspect this is the case.

    Also all i ever read is ''Arsenal must sign a DM and a quality CB'' but not too often do I see any suggestions as to who these should be, fact is there are very little quality options available in either position, Wenger is not the type to buy for the sake of buying and I am quite confident if a viable option becomes available and the board sanction the move that Wenger will do the necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    as for Eboue; too many people here hate him with a passion. So much so that they are blind to his value. He's got pace, he works hard off the ball and despite his weakness in delivery, creates more chances than people seem to realise.
    Pace without good control, passing and delivery just doesn't do it for me though. And whatever about creating chances, he wastes them too.
    But the more pleasing aspect of it if it were true (which i still doubt of course), would be that it signals Wenger's intent to play 4-3-3 more often next season as he thrives most as a wing forward.
    I think this is something we need to bear in mind more through all our discussions - as an example, we won't need Eboue to cover the right wing if we're moving to this kind of a system (which I well believe we might be). Personally I'd be pretty happy to take Kalou - for a while, I thought himself and Mikel were muck but given gametime, they've each looked like good players. He's not the main thing we need, but he'd add something to the squad and he's more available than the mystical, mythical DM that we're sick of talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    Pace without good control, passing and delivery just doesn't do it for me though. And whatever about creating chances, he wastes them too.

    I'm not denying any of that, but there'd still be a void in the squad if he were to leave as there's so few right sided players in there, and it wont be as easy to replace him as everyone seems to think. I just dont want to rush into a sale because a decent offer's there, I'd rather hold onto him another year if we have to wait to get a decent replacement in.
    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    I think this is something we need to bear in mind more through all our discussions - as an example, we won't need Eboue to cover the right wing if we're moving to this kind of a system (which I well believe we might be). Personally I'd be pretty happy to take Kalou - for a while, I thought himself and Mikel were muck but given gametime, they've each looked like good players. He's not the main thing we need, but he'd add something to the squad and he's more available than the mystical, mythical DM that we're sick of talking about.

    we still will need some sort of cover though. Walcott's the only right sided attacking player in the squad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I think Eboue's only use is as cover for RB. His end product is far too sloppy to be a quality winger, but if Sagna were to get a long term injury Eboue would be our best bet as a replacement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Roaster


    Lads did you see last night's game. We are sorted with a DM. 2nd half and who does Wenger decide to put into the centre...Mr. Senderos. To be fair he wasn't half bad but then again the opposition? But it does scare me when talking of Toure and AW says we've seven CH and I have to play some in midfield.

    I still trust the man and even with the current squad minus Kolo I think we'll be alright if they all stay fit. That's a big IF by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    Ok, here's another one for the transfer list dartboard. Rumour has it that Arsenal.com and Wikipedia (I know, Wiki can be a bit of a joke), listed as no.13 in our squad this morning none other than Daniele De Rossi. This was taken down after a short period of time.

    Personally I think he is a great player, but I feel this is the usual b0ll1x again. It just made me think because I believe Wenger looked at him in the January window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop


    Sad enough to see Toure going but 16m is very good business and he hasn't really been his best in over a year now.

    Would love to see the money invested in someone like Bassong or Hangeland and then a quality midfielder like de Rossi or Toulalan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom



    Personally I think he is a great player, but I feel this is the usual b0ll1x again. It just made me think because I believe Wenger looked at him in the January window.
    I'm not sure how much you should read into that. After all Wenger looks at everyone, all the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    greendom wrote: »
    After all Wenger looks at everyone, all the time


    I always knew he was a God :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Arsenal beat United in transfer race:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/cheltenham_town/8154769.stm

    Oh wait no, its just some kid...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    I'm not denying any of that, but there'd still be a void in the squad if he were to leave as there's so few right sided players in there ... Walcott's the only right sided attacking player in the squad.
    Yeah but there are two things there:
    (1) the gap Eboue's departure would leave (cover for RB, which we'd absolutely need to fill); and
    (2) the need of cover for right side midfield, assuming a 4-4-2. Here, Eboue doesn't really do it, Wilshere can play there, as can Rosicky.

    If we can get 10m for Eboue (I'm basing my theory on this price being accurate, I don't want to sell him if we can't turn a profit on the sale/replacement combo) and replace him for that or less with a better/younger player, then I say why not?

    As for right mid, I don't think he comes into the discussion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    If we can get 10m for Eboue (I'm basing my theory on this price being accurate, I don't want to sell him if we can't turn a profit on the sale/replacement combo) and replace him for that or less with a better/younger player, then I say why not?

    As for right mid, I don't think he comes into the discussion.

    Ok if we say 9-10m for Eboue just for the sake of it even though its a pretty big price tag stuck on him by the media. Realistically would you think that the profit margin that we would gain to make would justify selling him? I mean is there younger and a better RB cover out there in the market?

    I just dont see that this kind of possible money that would be generated is enough imo for Wenger to have to go out and source this type of player, i know the club has plenty of scouts working throughout the season but still Wenger has more to think about down the center of the team imo.

    To find a younger/better replacement for the sqaud might not come that cheap. Eboue i think is only 26 like and as ive mentioned already today he has plenty of premiership experience, knows what the manager wants from the team and im pretty sure he is well settled into living in London.

    This premiership experience is worth something to the squad imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    Ok, here's another one for the transfer list dartboard. Rumour has it that Arsenal.com and Wikipedia (I know, Wiki can be a bit of a joke), listed as no.13 in our squad this morning none other than Daniele De Rossi. This was taken down after a short period of time.

    Personally I think he is a great player, but I feel this is the usual b0ll1x again. It just made me think because I believe Wenger looked at him in the January window.


    I see De Rossi and Fabregas are now married according to Wiki.
    Can't wait to see him in an Arsenal shirt. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Souless


    Steven Finnan on a free ? :P lol I know no body will agree with that. Looks like Toure is pretty much gone at this stage anyway...well so all the rumours say :( Would have liked him to stay. Wouldn't really care either way about Eboue going if we got a good bit of cash for him and there's a suitable replacement brought in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Looking forward to todays game :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    Realistically would you think that the profit margin that we would gain to make would justify selling him? I mean is there younger and a better RB cover out there in the market?
    Premier League experience is worth a certain amount, for sure - but I think we could find more of a specialist right back for, say, 6m (that's about what Sagna cost, sure). And if that extra 2/3m would help us somewhere else in the team, with a transfer fee or wages, I'd do it.

    Chelsea may well get rid of one of Mancienne, Ferreira or Belletti, for example, although beyond that we'd be talking a Championship/overseas player so I can't say I know for sure who'd fit the bill.

    I'm also factoring in the fact that he's made noises about leaving, although to be honest, I don't particularly mind him staying as RB cover - I just can't stand seeing him line up in one of the wide midfield positions and I'm sick of him being considered cover for RM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    ahh I'll be sad to see toure go, he never really did get that cracker of a goal i thought he'd score for us, a thunderbolt from miles outside the box, it just didnt happen :( sure maybe he'll score one against us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭DenMan


    It's confirmed. :(

    I'm not liking this. Just the medical now stands in the way.

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5459450,00.html

    Does that mean Everton fans will be pleased? Will City still make a move for Lescott now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Losing Toure to City is a disaster imo.

    We've just sold them two of our senior players in straight succession.

    Are we trying to have them finish above us?

    Serious money needs to be spent at CB now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,054 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    DenMan wrote: »
    It's confirmed. :(

    I'm not liking this. Just the medical now stands in the way.

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5459450,00.html

    Does that mean Everton fans will be pleased? Will City still make a move for Lescott now?

    Raging, I love Toure. We did sign him on a free though, so that would be a £15/16m profit on a central defender, that's great money!
    Frisbee wrote: »
    Losing Toure to City is a disaster imo.

    We've just sold them two of our senior players in straight succession.

    Are we trying to have them finish above us?

    Serious money needs to be spent at CB now

    Lescott for Arsenal??? No way we'll spend the money required to bring him in though!

    CB and DM are priorities...how likely is it that we'll sign a good player in both positions??? Not very!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Losing Toure to City is a disaster imo.

    We've just sold them two of our senior players in straight succession.

    Are we trying to have them finish above us?

    Serious money needs to be spent at CB now

    While I agree with you in principle if you look at it in another way money is no problem for City so no player(within reason) is off limits and tbh I think they could have got much better players for £41/2m than Ade and Kolo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    While I agree with you in principle if you look at it in another way money is no problem for City so no player(within reason) is off limits and tbh I think they could have got much better players for £41/2m than Ade and Kolo.

    True, and if it was Milan that had have bought them I wouldn;t be quite as worried.

    But coz we're selling some of our most experienced players to a rival club you havee to wonder what kind of message is that sending to the likes of Fab, RVP, Arshavin, Rosicky etc.

    Are we just a feeder club at this stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Are we just a feeder club at this stage?

    a feeder club for who? clubs that finish below us in the premiership, and will more than likely continue to do so... Money Money Money, f*ck Ade, and i suppose Toure as well... I suppose both players can rest more now that they aint in the champions league or Europa League


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    thorbarry wrote: »
    a feeder club for who? clubs that finish below us in the premiership, and will more than likely continue to do so... Money Money Money, f*ck Ade, and i suppose Toure as well... I suppose both players can rest more now that they aint in the champions league or Europa League

    City won't continue to finish below us if they continue to spend like they do. I don;t think they'll finish ahead of us this year.

    But if by next season we haven't made serious changes to our transfer policy I can see them finishing ahead of us.


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