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Leaving Cert Points

  • 14-05-2009 7:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭


    Im just curious to what course people are aiming for mainly in college after they have completed their leaving cert. I am guessing that a lot are trying to get medicine, but am i right. Is medicine everyones number one course choice??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    No, of course not.Not everyone who scores highly points-wise will want to do medicine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭li@mo


    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    Im just curious to what course people are aiming for mainly in college after they have completed their leaving cert. I am guessing that a lot are trying to get medicine, but am i right. Is medicine everyones number one course choice??


    Of all the courses available.....hundreds and hundreds of them..........why do you think everyone first choice would be medicine?


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭HotP0pp3r


    No, of course not.Not everyone who scores highly points-wise will want to do medicine.

    No but the points for medicine have been lowered and theres probably more people applying, not just the high scorers


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anyone who goes for medicine just cause it's high points and good money is a complete and utter eejit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Des23


    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    No but the points for medicine have been lowered and theres probably more people applying, not just the high scorers

    The points have not been lowered, they are now combined with an additional examination, but there is also a bit of tweaking once points get very high, i.e. 600 points is worth 560 when it comes to applying for medicine.

    The general belief amongst a lot of people that the points have actually been lowered (which in itself is impossible with the CAO system), is probably the cause for the increase in applicants.

    I would think that it will be no easier to get into medicine this year than it has ever been, it is still the same quality of student applying for the same number of places (Were new places added in NUIG?)

    For the record, I don't want to do medicine, as I would make a woeful doctor, in case I sound all wound up about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    anyone who goes for medicine just cause it's high points and good money is a complete and utter eejit.

    I absolutely HATE it when people assume that because im pretty good in school i should automatically go for medicine. I'm applying for medicine, but it has nothing to do with points or money, and if i was a C or D standard student I'd say it would still be the course i'd love, if not somewhat less achievable.

    A fella in my year who would be more or less a straight A student is going for teaching....the amount of people, including teachers, who have been like "WHAT??? why arent you going for medicine???" is just ridiculous :eek:
    Des23 wrote: »
    I would think that it will be no easier to get into medicine this year than it has ever been, it is still the same quality of student applying for the same number of places (Were new places added in NUIG?)

    I think there has been, theres about 90 for next year, i think it was 60 or 70 last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    I don't understand why medicine is so popular. I couldn't think of anything more disgusting than having to deal with other peoples' bodies. It makes me sick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    I don't get why it's so popular either? I'd say some people to only go for it because it's so prestiguos and they want everyone to know how smart they are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I'm going for it because I'm not the kind of person who is ever going to really enjoy life, so I may as well try and help others enjoy theirs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    ^ that's a bit pessimistic!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    ^ that's a bit pessimistic!

    Yeah well, if you were me then you might have a better idea of what I'm like. :P The fact I'm planning on living through college is me on a high. :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    :(


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amacachi wrote: »
    Yeah well, if you were me then you might have a better idea of what I'm like. :P The fact I'm planning on living through college is me on a high. :P

    :eek:

    get help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭manutd4life


    i'm going for business in dcu


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Does any1 have any stats on the amount of people applied to what type of courses. Someone posted it a while ago but I cant find it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭english4490


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Does any1 have any stats on the amount of people applied to what type of courses. Someone posted it a while ago but I cant find it.
    http://www2.cao.ie/dir_report/pdf/AppStats01Feb2009.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭stainluss


    Its weird that the numbers don't even vary that much between each year for courses..theyre will always be the majortiy doing arts & business and so forth..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭english4490


    ya it is very odd. the recession does not seem to have affected things hugely, obviously engineering and the built enviroment stuff is down, but like some of our teachers were saying teaching will go up hugely becasue people will look for a good state job and pension! but apparently not!


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭HotP0pp3r


    li@mo wrote: »
    Of all the courses available.....hundreds and hundreds of them..........why do you think everyone first choice would be medicine?

    Because i know that medicine is very competitive and now with the recession, there will be a great deal of competition to get into good courses
    Des23 wrote: »
    The points have not been lowered, they are now combined with an additional examination, but there is also a bit of tweaking once points get very high, i.e. 600 points is worth 560 when it comes to applying for medicine.

    The general belief amongst a lot of people that the points have actually been lowered (which in itself is impossible with the CAO system), is probably the cause for the increase in applicants.

    I would think that it will be no easier to get into medicine this year than it has ever been, it is still the same quality of student applying for the same number of places (Were new places added in NUIG?)

    For the record, I don't want to do medicine, as I would make a woeful doctor, in case I sound all wound up about it.

    Ive heard all about the point tweeking and the Hpat test and the interview, and i believe that there will be a big increase in applicants because of the point drop, i believe it will be easier to get in, not for everybody, such as the socially retarded, but for those people who have a good personality have the desire to be a doctor but also it evens out the playing field, and not just those tarts who got the points and want to do medicine because of the money will get in but now it gives a wider variety of people a better chance, such as the people who are out to truly connect and engage and use this opportunity to make a real difference in peoples lives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    Because i know that medicine is very competitive and now with the recession, there will be a great deal of competition to get into good courses

    There are other good courses ya know.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭HotP0pp3r


    There are other good courses ya know.

    Theres lots of great courses out there that are really competitive e.g LAW, im using medicine as an example, mainly because of the L.C Points drop and the fact that the applications have increased for medicine and science this year more then any other course. So stop telling me that there are lots of other courses out there, i ****ing know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I don't think it's all that fair to give out about people only doing medicine to have successful, well-paying careers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    amacachi wrote: »
    I don't think it's all that fair to give out about people only doing medicine to have successful, well-paying careers.

    successful and well-paying are not necessarily linked


  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭nurse23


    ya it is very odd. the recession does not seem to have affected things hugely, obviously engineering and the built enviroment stuff is down, but like some of our teachers were saying teaching will go up hugely becasue people will look for a good state job and pension! but apparently not!
    I think thats probably due to the fact that its as hard to get a teaching job or nursing job or other so called safe choices in the current climate. i qualified last may and was lucky to get a job at the right time but with all the cutbacks i know most temporary staff and even permanent staff are worried sick due to service cuts and closures and id imagine its the same with teaching jobs etc! that said at least with nursing, medicine and teaching and similar type courses when you get your degree you are qualifed to go straight into a job and there are more oppurtunities for work abroad. a lot of my friends spent 3/4 years doing arts and business type courses but were still not qualified for anything inparticular so i would have assumed that the more traditional type courses would have been more popular this year. that said i know a lot of nursing student openings have been reduced a good bit which is ridiculous but anyway!!!!! i feel for everyone making the cao choices tis year it must be really hard to figure out whats the best option!! but best advice is to do somethin you'll really enjoy and have an interest in because if you just go for what you'll think is a safe option you'll hate it and be no good at it anyway. a lot can happen in a few years so hopefully there will be more job oppurtunities for all in the future!! best of luck everyone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Des23


    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    Ive heard all about the point tweeking and the Hpat test and the interview

    Which Universities have an interview?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Des23 wrote: »
    Which Universities have an interview?

    Yeah, I was wondering that myself......


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭HotP0pp3r


    Des23 wrote: »
    Which Universities have an interview?

    UCD and TCD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Aiming for about 415 and mite just scrap my first choice Bus with Russian TCD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    Des23 wrote: »
    Which Universities have an interview?
    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    UCD and TCD

    For medicine? Really? Or do you mean the garda vetting thing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭KarlNedCarew



    Was suprised to see that science is the biggest increase number-wise, although it may have to do with the amount of science courses that branch off into secondary level teaching


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    Was suprised to see that science is the biggest increase number-wise, although it may have to do with the amount of science courses that branch off into secondary level teaching

    And with the increased amount of people who applied for medicine cos of the hpat, who will have science as their second choice, well alot of them anyway :)


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amacachi wrote: »
    I don't think it's all that fair to give out about people only doing medicine to have successful, well-paying careers.

    coming from someone who has finished college and is now working, there is a reason your teachers tell you to do something you want to do..


    as far as college goes, even a single module within a course can become the bane of your life if you don't like it. nevermind your whole course being like that. and medicine is so tough, long and bloody that if you don't like it, you wont last the 6 or 7 years.

    as far as working goes, if you end up doing something you don't like, you're fuked. i know a fully qualified pharmacist doing a music course right now cause she finds pharmacy so boring.


    i'm only 21 and i've already seen how this is true.. i'm just lucky i find fund accounting interesting.


    edit: as for the money factor, i'm on less that 30k a year right now cause i'm still junior. hardly much in comparison to some jobs but you'd be surprised how far it goes.. i have my dream car, share a nice gaff, drink when i want and buy clothes when i want. you don't need 100k a year to be happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭HotP0pp3r


    For medicine? Really? Or do you mean the garda vetting thing?

    I heard there was one for medicine with these new rules


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭HotP0pp3r


    Was suprised to see that science is the biggest increase number-wise, although it may have to do with the amount of science courses that branch off into secondary level teaching

    People would have picked Science as it is a gate way to medicine, also that field is rapidly changeing so it would also be very interesting


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    im using medicine as an example, mainly because of the L.C Points drop and the fact that the applications have increased for medicine

    Points "dropped", applications "increased". Oxymoron? Logic would suggest that if applications have increased as rapidly as you imply, then points would increase (that is, of course, if the points that the applicants achieve are as high as medicine students typically attain).

    And, as far as I know, points haven't dropped - how do you know they've dropped anyway? Point requirements won't be out until August. Superficially it may appear that they have dropped, but, I believe, it will be as hard as ever to get into medicine.
    HotP0pp3r wrote: »
    People would have picked Science as it is a gate way to medicine

    Not everything revolves around medicine, don't you know that?
    also that field is rapidly changeing so it would also be very interesting

    I'd guess that's more of a reason than people wanting to use it to get into medicine.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    I don't get why it's so popular either? I'd say some people to only go for it because it's so prestiguos and they want everyone to know how smart they are

    Yes and the money is a HUGE attraction 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    OneArt wrote: »
    I don't understand why medicine is so popular. I couldn't think of anything more disgusting than having to deal with other peoples' bodies. It makes me sick.

    If it's popular then so be it. It's a choice and if people have done well in their LC and get the points for it then I say go for it. It's not going to tickle everyone's fancy but then that's the same about everything really.

    OP you shouldn't really concern yourself about what others are choosing to do but just think about yourself. Just make sure you get the course you want and enjoy it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    Anthony16 wrote: »
    Yes and the money is a HUGE attraction 2

    Not really, if people are smart enough to have medicine as a realistic hope, then they would surely realise that law, psychology, pharmacy and even business can make as much/more money than a doctor down the line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭drrkpd


    just to go back on one point on this thread -there are NO interviews for undergraduate medicine and there are NO plans ever to introduce them.
    Most important is to do something you ENJOY!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Points "dropped", applications "increased". Oxymoron? Logic would suggest that if applications have increased as rapidly as you imply, then points would increase (that is, of course, if the points that the applicants achieve are as high as medicine students typically attain).

    And, as far as I know, points haven't dropped - how do you know they've dropped anyway? Point requirements won't be out until August. Superficially it may appear that they have dropped, but, I believe, it will be as hard as ever to get into medicine.



    Not everything revolves around medicine, don't you know that?


    I'd guess that's more of a reason than people wanting to use it to get into medicine.

    No need to get personal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭JSK 252


    Pharmacy points are going to drop like a tonne of bricks in all the 3 universities.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    I'm hopin to do Philosophy wit Russian in Trinity or any of the coarses I put down wit Russian (altho I really hope to not get bus!)


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