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Do the Irish(in general) have an inferiority complex?

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  • #32
    eddiehead
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    enniscorthy wrote: »
    you know we are the fighting irish and we'll fight until the end hehehehehehehehehehahahahahahahahhohohoohheheheheh

    you should have known you'll never beat the Irish hahahahahahahehehehehehehehehehohohohohohoho


  • #33
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    I believe so.

    Also a very subservient relationship with the UK as well, just take a look at all the plastic brits in pubs all day on a Sunday with their English soccer jersey shouting at the tv with a pretend English accent.:rolleyes:

    I don't think because the Irish have a similar culture to the British that we somehow have an inferiority complex.


  • #34
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I'm English and I barely support an English football - a load of trumped up tossers kicked around a ball... wowwwww.


    Tbph, we're all as **** as each other. We here have our heroes and our cnuts, so does Ireland.


  • #35
    Armin_Tamzarian
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    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    i think a large proportion of irish society is quite conservative and in a way backward, you'll notice in Dublin is less like this. in a way rural ireland holds other parts of ireland back.
    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    The '2 for a pound' accent was the worst thing ever.
    Theres a black family who live beside a friend of mine and the kid speaks with the filthiest Dublin accent I've ever heard, its heavier and more pronounced than normal.

    This post made me think, hmmm is this guy an elitest snob?
    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    +1 OP. I for one pray for the day when this construct they call 'society' is destroyed.

    This post made me think, hmmm is this guy a deranged lunatic?
    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    Who on here is gonna be doing the LC this year?

    This post explained it all.


  • #36
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Yeah, look at how stupid i am for choosing the superior product.

    I feel sorry for you, you will never know what it is like to be part of a football club. You support a brand, I support my local team. You can claim you are part of your club by refering to them as us or we, but you are kidding yourself.

    Most Manchester United fans have never been in Manchester, yet refer to United as us or we. Sad.

    Meanwhile, my local club progressed to the next round of the Europa league. You will never experience anything like that supporting your brand, for that I genuinely pity you.


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  • #37
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    PaulieD wrote: »
    Sad.

    Sad is the Eircom League brigade who have such a chip on their shoulders about those who watch football on television.


  • #38
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Sad is the Eircom League brigade who have such a chip on their shoulders about those who watch football on television.

    Thats me put in my place.:)

    Why watch it on tv when you can watch it live?


  • #39
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Not everybody has an Eircom League team in their town.


  • #40
    Adamcp898
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    PaulieD wrote: »
    Thats me put in my place.:)

    Why watch it on tv when you can watch it live?

    Why can't you appreciate the quality of watching the world's best?

    Was wondering why we hadn't seen one of these arguments in the soccer forum for a while, turns out they moved here:rolleyes:


  • #41
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    PaulieD wrote: »
    Thats me put in my place.:)

    Why watch it on tv when you can watch it live?

    Yeah, why bother watch something done well on TV when i can watch it done badly live?


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  • #42
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Yeah, why bother watch something done well on TV when i can watch it done badly live?

    How many games have you attended?


  • #43
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    Adamcp898 wrote: »
    Why can't you appreciate the quality of watching the world's best?

    Was wondering why we hadn't seen one of these arguments in the soccer forum for a while, turns out they moved here:rolleyes:

    I do. I follow English and Italian football too, I just cannot understand why "football fans" snub their local football team. If you think it is poor quality, attend the Rovers and Bohs game on Sunday. You may be pleasently surprised.;)


  • #44
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    PaulieD wrote: »
    Thats me put in my place.:)

    Why watch it on tv when you can watch it live?

    Watch live football on a very consistent basis, just happens to be an English team, so whats the problem?


  • #45
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Watch live football on a very consistent basis, just happens to be an English team, so whats the problem?

    Do you attend games?


  • #46
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    PaulieD wrote: »
    Do you attend games?


    Yes I have a st.


  • #47
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Yes I have a st.

    Fairplay, it is the bar stoolers I have an issue with. You know the type. Up the RA Monday to Friday, but at the weekends it is a different story. All talk of "us", "we" and "them" when speaking about a club they have never seen live. Chances are they have never been in the city.


  • #48
    EvilMonkey
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    So what some people support their local team, others prefer to watch English, Scottish, Spanish... teams. Just because you support your local team doesn't make you better than anyone else.
    What if your local team is a GAA team? Can you still support a football team?
    LOI fans put people off attending not the quality of football.


  • #49
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    PaulieD wrote: »
    Fairplay, it is the bar stoolers I have an issue with.

    What about those that do not have an Eircom League team in their town?


  • #50
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    You know the way kids who were abused as children usually grow up to have terrible self esteem (as well as other emotional scarring)?
    Well imagine that, but instead of Daddy coming into your room every night it was the King of England, and your childhood lasted 700 years.

    You understand now?


  • #51
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    You know the way kids who were abused as children usually grow up to have terrible self esteem (as well as other emotional scarring)?
    Well imagine that, but instead of Daddy coming into your room every night it was the King of England, and your childhood lasted 700 years.

    You understand now?
    I am serious when I ask this. What the **** are you on about?


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  • #52
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    I am serious when I ask this. What the **** are you on about?
    Was a joke I heard somewhere (forget where) on the topic.
    I found it funny, perhaps I was wrong.


  • #53
    Whiskey Devil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Whiskey Devil


    Irish people have been supporting English based football teams since they started broadcasting football on television. 'Trying to make it out to be some new thing that Sky has duped everybody into buying is rubbish. Just look at the reception Man Utd got in South Korea this week. Man Utd / Liverpool and others have had a lot of Irish links down the years and still do to this day.

    I agree that it's embarrassing watching grown men get upset about what happens in a Manchester United game, but they tend to be sad cases with nothing more exciting in their life.


    My Glasweigan grandfather brought me up on Celtic, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over them.


    I think it's the fact that they are English teams is what really grates people. :)


  • #54
    davyjose
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    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    'Traitors'? We live in a country where nationalism is shoved down our throats, nationalism is an offshoot of insecurity. I hate GAA culture, however I support an actual Irish soccer team unlike those sheep.

    That's why you have the name of a Swede of Bosnian descent, playing for an Italian team as your username? ;)


  • #55
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    Was a joke I heard somewhere (forget where) on the topic.
    I found it funny, perhaps I was wrong.

    Worst joke ever!


  • #56
    Adamcp898
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    PaulieD wrote: »
    I do. I follow English and Italian football too, I just cannot understand why "football fans" snub their local football team. If you think it is poor quality, attend the Rovers and Bohs game on Sunday. You may be pleasently surprised.;)

    I have been to many LoI games but my support waned because I got fed up with the way things were being done at the club (let's remember there are things that can happen at a club that can make you lose your faith and not be a bad supporter, look at Man United for example a whole group set up their own club because Man United was sold to the Glazers), and I'm a little too far away to go to the Bohs Rovers game ;)

    The fact that I support an English team and watch a lot of European football shouldn't make me a bad supporter now. I've no problem with the LoI supporter that goes to his LoI game and accepts/supports English teams, I just can't understand the self appointed elitist group that think everyon else isn't a real football supporter just because they don't support fanatically a team in their own country/locale. Nothing worng with wanting to see a good thing done right and to its best tbh


  • #57
    terrytrent
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    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    I believe so.

    Also a very subservient relationship with the UK as well, just take a look at all the plastic brits in pubs all day on a Sunday with their English soccer jersey shouting at the tv with a pretend English accent.:rolleyes:


    I think generally we are a modest nation to a fault. Well when compared to other Europeans, as the fella says


  • #58
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    I believe so.

    Also a very subservient relationship with the UK as well, just take a look at all the plastic brits in pubs all day on a Sunday with their English soccer jersey shouting at the tv with a pretend English accent.:rolleyes:
    Firstly, I don't know what in the blazes you're talking about. Maybe it's something you've witnessed in a posh part of Dublin but I have serious doubts it's widespread throughout this island. Therefore, seeing as you're using the above statement on its own to make a generalisation about an entire nation's people, I would strongly disagree with the assertion that the Irish (even "in general") have an inferiority complex/a very subservient relationship with the UK.
    Perhaps those football supporters were English too, rather than Irish with "pretend" English accents...?
    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    If anything the Irish have a superiority complex. We think that our country is this amazing place when in reality it's almost a Third World nation.
    It isn't. In fact it's nowhere near a third world nation.
    Which Irish people are you generalising about anyway? Presume you're not referring to yourself, and I certainly don't have a superiority complex or think Ireland's this amazing place.
    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    Lol your response sums up Soccer 'fans' in this country.
    But it was a really good post, so your comeback just looks like you were unable to answer it. So you're cool with people following the soccer teams of other nations apart from English ones/Rangers?
    Ibrahimovic91 wrote: »
    So would you stop 'supporting'(from your television :rolleyes:) your chosen club if they were relegated and played dire football?

    Some supporter aye?
    That person didn't actually answer your question so no point in pre-empting their response with a presumption. Maybe they wouldn't stop supporting (yeah, "from" their television - so what?) their chosen club if they were relegated and played dire football.
    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    Its not surprising when our leaders are west-brits. Once we have a patriotic leadership it will go imo
    Define "west Brit" Man U fan? ;)
    I'm still waiting on that definition, and I'd love to know what exactly is "west Brit" about Brian Cowen et al...

    There are some people who have an inferiority complex about their Irishness... especially when it comes to the English, there are some who think they're apparently "better" because they're Irish... when it comes to the English... both views are two sides of the same coin, and equally retarded.


  • #59
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    terrytrent wrote: »
    I think generally we are a modest nation to a fault. Well when compared to other Europeans, as the fella says
    Being a modest nation isn't necessarilly a fault, would rather be part of a nation with an inferiority complex than one with a superiority complex.

    That said, you use the example of people watching premiership football as your example. You forgot to mention all the times the pubs are full of people supporting Ireland in the Rugby or watching Hurling or Gaelic football, though that's probably a rural thing and/or associated with an older crowd.


  • #60
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I don't know if modest is the same as having an inferiority complex though. And an inferiority complex can bring out people's ugly, dark side - bitterness, jealousy, hate... and it can manifest itself in people actually behaving like they're superior. You can apply it to Irish people hating the English, poor whites hating well-to-do blacks/Jews/Asians/Latin Americans... etc.

    Then there's the other type of inferiority complex - the whole doormat/Uncle Tom thing, which is also something I wouldn't like this nation to have going on.


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  • #61
    Dudess
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Worst joke ever!
    I like it - it's totally the type of sh1t a hatefilled 'ra-head would say. :)


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