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Whats the percentage of your Car repayment from your disposable income?

  • 22-07-2009 01:03PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 897 ✭✭✭


    Hey, Im asking this here, since its about more than just money.

    I test drove a Mazda3 hatch, and liked. Its a good deal, €8,750 for a '06 with 22k miles on the clock.

    I put a €200 deposit down, and left them to sort out finance.
    I wanted a 4 or 5 yr loan, but they told me yesterday that all they could get is a 3 year loan.
    This brings the payments to %25 of my disposable income.
    Thats after mortgage, commuting expenses(train) etc.

    Whats yer car repayments precentage like? think thats too much? cause the other option is to buy a but ugly car for 2K.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    how about going to your own bank?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    0% :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Stevie Dakota


    0% :D

    +1 I used that Celtic Tiger to get OUT of debt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭fletch


    0% for me too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭eringobragh


    Is finance not for mugs or am I imagining things?

    It would probably work out better and cheaper to go the credit union/building society/bank loan!

    0% as well (cars not worth much!)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Kafer


    8750 is good value but not when you have to get a loan to buy it.

    I agree with the lads. Buy something that you have the cash for and build up your savings. That 8750K will be costing you 11K by the time you have it paid back and the car will be worth 3K.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 897 ✭✭✭oxygen_old


    Financing is just the dealer sorting out the loan for you I think. Its in their interest to get you the money.

    I went to my own bank, they said it was a bit tight.
    %60 of car loans are being refused these days.

    Thanks for all the 0% guys. I pressume then, a fair amount of cash most people would be able to gather would be between €1,500 and €2,000. So not to go any higher than that. That right? When I started seeing all the replies with just %0 in them, that what Im assuming ye meant, the replies were a little vague.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 897 ✭✭✭oxygen_old


    Kafer wrote: »
    8750 is good value but not when you have to get a loan to buy it.

    I agree with the lads. Buy something that you have the cash for and build up your savings. That 8750K will be costing you 11K by the time you have it paid back and the car will be worth 3K.

    Thanks for that Kafer. When I asked him the cost of finance yesterday, he didnt know. Ill call him today and get him to check. Ill consider the cost onto the price of the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Paid cash for my last car - I've already got a loan from my postgrad days that I'm paying back that is 11% of my monthly income plus I save 20% - so I wanted to no further debt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,283 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    oxygen wrote: »
    I test drove a Mazda3 hatch, and liked. Its a good deal, €8,750 for a '06 with 22k miles on the clock.
    ...
    I wanted a 4 or 5 yr loan, but they told me yesterday that all they could get is a 3 year loan.
    This brings the payments to %25 of my disposable income.
    ...
    cause the other option is to buy a but ugly car for 2K.

    So why not get a loan for 5/6K over 3 years - why the jump from nearly 9K to 2K?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭robtri


    I never take a loan out for a car, only buy what I can afford....

    probably explains why I drive old bangers....

    For example
    I would rather buy a car for 3k keep it fro 3 years sell it for 1K....
    so it only costs me 2K over three years...
    than buy a car for 10K pay back 13k over three years and sell it for 5k...
    that would cost me 8K over 3 years.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I had to get a loan (10 grand) a few years ago, but not for a car. It was over 5 years, but I paid it off after just over 2 years - I hated having it, even though I could afford it. Since then, I've been putting the same amount of money I used to pay off the loan with into a savings account each month.

    Personally, I'd never get another loan again (mortgage excepted) unless I absolutely had to (something like medical or legal fees). But maybe that's just me.

    Any car I've bought so far has been for my own cash, so it's 0% for me too.

    OP, i suppose it depends on your job, but with the way things are going at the moment, I wouldn't be putting 25% of my disposable income into a loan. With tax increases and benefit decreases in the next budget, that could easily become 35% - assuming your job is still around then.

    While things are good at the moment, interest rates are only going to go one way (up) over the next 3 years - if it's a fixed rate, that won't matter, but keep it in mind if it's variable.

    EDIT: is the 200 deposit the only cash you're planning to put towards the car, or is it just to put your stake on it?

    As for getting a butt ugly car for 2K - there's lots of nice cars you could get for that money, and then save what you would have put into the loan for 3 years and get something even better with the cash then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 897 ✭✭✭oxygen_old


    Thanks for the reply guys. I was kinda on the fence about it myself, think yere right.

    A quater of my displosable would be putting me under a fair bit of pressure for a car I drive mostly at weekends.Think I'll start looking for something a bit more in my price range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭eringobragh


    oxygen wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply guys. I was kinda on the fence about it myself, think yere right.

    A quater of my displosable would be putting me under a fair bit of pressure for a car I drive mostly at weekends.Think I'll start looking for something a bit more in my price range.

    I've seen loads of keenly priced cars on www.adverts.ie in recent times!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Car Cost €0
    Tax €0
    Insurance €0
    Servicing €0
    Tyres €0
    Bodywork €0
    Fuel €0

    Grand Total €0

    = Company car and I DO NOT PAY BIK - :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    0% now but i was putting about 28% of my income into the loan when I had it. All gone in 17 months as a result. :)

    I would never get a car loan, just get a personnal loan. rates are usually better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    0%, financing a car makes about as much sense to me as financing an ice cream cone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Berty wrote: »
    Car Cost €0
    Tax €0
    Insurance €0
    Servicing €0
    Tyres €0
    Bodywork €0
    Fuel €0

    Grand Total €0

    = Company car and I DO NOT PAY BIK - :D

    How do you get from work to home and vice versa?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Okay - Guilty. 15% of Net of tax (too lazy to work out NDI).

    I can't be the only one though :D


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I dont think 25% of disposable income is bad at all. I would have no problem spending a lot of my disposable income on a car loan. Plenty of people would be spending 25% of their whole income on a car

    Its ok for the people who buy a 3k car in cash to say they would not get a car loan but if you want to go out and spend 30 of 40k on a car its hardly an option. I dont have a loan at the moment but wouldnt think twice about getting one to buy a car I wanted. Im not a fan of buying a banger and running it into the ground.
    Anan1 wrote: »
    0%, financing a car makes about as much sense to me as financing an ice cream cone.

    There would be very few expensive cars on the road if everybody had this opinion. I dont see the problem with getting a car loan to buy a car you want. If you want the car its hardly a waste of money.

    Im talking about car loans btw not financing through the dealer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    0% for me too...I've only ever bought a car based on whether or not I could pay cash up front. I'm not a big fan of loans either and am lucky in that the only loan I have is my mortgage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,283 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I have a car loan as well - don't know the exact percentage, but I think it's less than 5% of my take home.

    This comes up a good bit, and you'll always have the people who trot out the totalities about how it doesn't make financial sense.

    But a lot of these people drive cars that depreciate a lot and/or have high tax and running costs. So really it's just a case of choosing in what way your car is going to lose your money for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    Its ok for the people who buy a 3k car in cash to say they would not get a car loan but if you want to go out and spend 30 of 40k on a car its hardly an option.

    Im not a fan of buying a banger and running it into the ground.


    There would be very few expensive cars on the road if everybody had this opinion. I dont see the problem with getting a car loan to buy a car you want. If you want the car its hardly a waste of money.

    This is the very reason as to why the repo companies are so busy at the minute. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    There would be very few expensive cars on the road if everybody had this opinion. I dont see the problem with getting a car loan to buy a car you want. If you want the car its hardly a waste of money.

    Im talking about car loans btw not financing through the dealer.
    It's a matter of personal opinion, really. Mine is that if I can't pay cash for a car then I can't afford it. I think this is particularly true in the current market, where cars are so cheap to buy and depreciate so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭lafors


    I've a company car so pay BIK.
    Going back this month so I'll be buying my own based upon the car allowance they'll be giving me instead. Only problem with that is that I'd have to stay employed or I'll have to pay it myself, so I'm deciding on exactly how much I'm willing to take out a loan for too.

    These threads are always the same, lads can't post quickly enough how great it is they have 0%. People like Kafer & Robtri give good replies, and all most of the rest of you have done is make people who have finance not post for fear of looking like a twat for owing money on a car. I'd say I know more people who borrow for their cars than people who don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭irisheddie85


    i pay about 15% of dispoasble income on car repaymemts. got a credit union loan so some months a bit more some a bit less without any penalty. Paid off my last 5 year car loan in 2 1/2 years this way hope to do the same this time


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nforce wrote: »
    This is the very reason as to why the repo companies are so busy at the minute. ;)

    I am not saying someone should go out and get themselves into a situation where they borrow more than they can afford to repay.

    But if someone wants to go out and buy a car they want, which they cannot pay for in cash and never could but could easily afford the repayments over a few years I dont see the problem.
    Anan1 wrote: »
    It's a matter of personal opinion, really. Mine is that if I can't pay cash for a car then I can't afford it. I think this is particularly true in the current market, where cars are so cheap to buy and depreciate so much.

    I would just feel I would be missing out on being able to buy so many different cars if I limited myself to paying in cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    Anan1 wrote: »
    It's a matter of personal opinion, really. Mine is that if I can't pay cash for a car then I can't afford it. I think this is particularly true in the current market, where cars are so cheap to buy and depreciate so much.

    Yep,totally agree. And for what it's worth...paying cash for a car doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a couple of grand for a banger. I paid over €20k of my hard earned cash for my last car....saved for it like a bastid as I really wanted that car and had a goal of buying it without having to go into debt in order to get it. It'll be the same for my next car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,877 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    0% for me too. But when I was younger and foolish I financed a car, paid it off over the agreed term but never again. These days luckily I buy with my own money or not at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    I am not saying someone should go out and get themselves into a situation where they borrow more than they can afford to repay.

    But if someone wants to go out and buy a car they want, which they cannot pay for in cash and never could but could easily afford the repayments over a few years I dont see the problem.


    The problem is that many people have borrowed more than they could pay back......the proof of this is in Merlin auctions! It's the "keeping up with the Jone's" syndrome....people were buying cars that they couldn't afford, building houses they can't afford to heat...nor make repayments, taking 3 or 4 expensive holidays a year ............the recession has put paid to all of that for these gobshytes.;)


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