Samsung NC10

Overblood · 21-07-2009 09:55AM

Blade I can sell you a brand new router nice price very cheap good quality best quality router L@@K WOW!

Pm sent.

Blade · 21-07-2009 12:52PM

Overblood wrote: »

Blade I can sell you a brand new router nice price very cheap good quality best quality router L@@K WOW!

Pm sent.

My Eircom router is probably more powerful than your wireless G according to your link: http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessGRouters/DG834G.aspx

The_Conductor · 21-07-2009 01:09PM

Blade wrote: »

My Eircom router is probably more powerful than your wireless G according to your link: http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessGRouters/DG834G.aspx

Just buy a regular wireless N router with MIMO and take an output from the Netopia to feed it. You'll get double the throughput, and lesser dead spots.

Abelloid · 22-07-2009 10:28AM

Just spotted Argos have a few of these instock around the country for €329, but with the 2 cell battery.

Item No.: 508/2061

Kotek Besar · 22-07-2009 10:35AM

JustinOval wrote: »

Just spotted Argos have a few of these instock around the country for €329, but with the 2 cell battery.

Item No.: 508/2061

Good find! How do you know it's the 2 cell battery?

Abelloid · 22-07-2009 10:44AM

benifa wrote: »

Good find! How do you know it's the 2 cell battery?

Battery is quoted as three hours as opposed to seven on the €369 models.

Kotek Besar · 22-07-2009 10:48AM

JustinOval wrote: »

Battery is quoted as three hours as opposed to seven on the €369 models.

How sneaky! Thanks for the heads up.

Kotek Besar · 28-07-2009 09:14PM

My Dad's over from England at the minute. We bought him an NC10 from Newry just after Christmas. I put Vista on it at the time.

Anyway, he's been complaining it's running slowly, freezing and giving popups. This is Dad's first computer and I'm sure it's full of spyware, plus - Vista - meh.

So I saved his docs on a USB and install a recently downloaded (from MS) Windows 7 RC1 32-bit and completed a fresh install.

Installed all the drivers from the Samsung website, everything seems working - except the trackpad. Well, I think it's the trackpad, I'm not really sure. The problem is, the cursor freezes and won't unfreeze. The computer doesn't feeeze. Using the keys, Alt-Tab etc. - no problem. Typing - no problem. It's just the ruddy cursor! Have to restart anyway and then it's ok again.

So, what could be wrong? Hardware issue with the trackpad? Driver problem? Dad says this used to happen when Vista was on there, but not as frequently (now, with Windows 7, it's usually about 1-2 minutes after booting up).

I'd love any thoughts on this. Cheers!

Greenman · 28-07-2009 10:29PM

benifa wrote: »

I put Vista on it at the time.

Sorry about the trackpad but just curious why you put Vista and why not leave XP on it??

The_Conductor · 29-07-2009 06:01AM

To be quite honest- the laptop was never designed to run either Vista or Windows 7- and while happy enough with XP did benefit from the addition of extra memory.

I genuinely think you would benefit massively from rolling back to XP- or even trying Samsungs customised NC10-ubuntu (if your dad is willing to try Linux).

Given that the trackpad does work initially- and its only after a period of time that it freezes- this sounds to all intensive purposes like a possible overheating problem. If you're running Vista or Windows 7- its not wholly surprising that you may be experiencing an overheating issue- the normal sustained load for the Atom processor was never intended to be the workout either of these operating systems give it.

You will get Vista or Windows 7 working on this platform- but given the tiny footprint of the machine- its not entirely surprising that it is having the current problem.

Something you could possibly think about- one of those laptop rests- which raises the laptop at an angle to try to maximise airflow to the components?

S.

zeusnero · 29-07-2009 06:24AM

I'm another one that bought the NC10 going on the recommendations of posters in this thread so thanks for the great advice everyone

Have a small issue with the NC10 in that when the battery is removed it's not balanced and makes typing a pain - So I pretty much just keep the battery in all the time (which I know isn't doing its life expectancy any favours).

Just wondering if anybody has bought a second battery and from where/ for how much?

Abelloid · 29-07-2009 08:15AM

Just use it on battery power and charge when needed.

davemie · 29-07-2009 08:45AM

zeusnero wrote: »

Just wondering if anybody has bought a second battery and from where/ for how much?

Deal Extreme sell them for around 36 euro including delivery. But this is more then likely not an original Samsung battery. I didn't get one myself as I just charge when needed and try my best not to left it plugged in when fully charged.

http://www2.dealextreme.com/forums/forums.dx/forum.22496

Kotek Besar · 29-07-2009 09:21AM

benifa wrote: »

My Dad's over from England at the minute. We bought him an NC10 from Newry just after Christmas. I put Vista on it at the time.

Anyway, he's been complaining it's running slowly, freezing and giving popups. This is Dad's first computer and I'm sure it's full of spyware, plus - Vista - meh.

So I saved his docs on a USB and install a recently downloaded (from MS) Windows 7 RC1 32-bit and completed a fresh install.

Installed all the drivers from the Samsung website, everything seems working - except the trackpad. Well, I think it's the trackpad, I'm not really sure. The problem is, the cursor freezes and won't unfreeze. The computer doesn't feeeze. Using the keys, Alt-Tab etc. - no problem. Typing - no problem. It's just the ruddy cursor! Have to restart anyway and then it's ok again.

So, what could be wrong? Hardware issue with the trackpad? Driver problem? Dad says this used to happen when Vista was on there, but not as frequently (now, with Windows 7, it's usually about 1-2 minutes after booting up).

I'd love any thoughts on this. Cheers!

Thanks lads for the replies so far.

Just an update:

Plugging in a cheap USB mouse works fine. The cursor is unfrozen and works fine (with the mouse). At this time, the trackpad continues to be unresponsive. Give it 5 minutes (with or without the USB mouse plugged in), and the trackpad starts working again.

So I think it's either..

1. The trackpad (hardware) is on it's way out?
2. A driver problem?
3. A dirty trackpad? (I'm going to give it a good clean now).

I'm not sure it's anything to do with overheating, as the problem occurs usually about 5 minutes after switch on (from cold), and the NC10 is really quite cold.

Will try a few things and report back! Thanks again chaps.

cpu-dude · 29-07-2009 09:27AM

benifa wrote: »

Thanks lads for the replies so far.

Just an update:

Plugging in a cheap USB mouse works fine. The cursor is unfrozen and works fine (with the mouse). At this time, the trackpad continues to be unresponsive. Give it 5 minutes (with or without the USB mouse plugged in), and the trackpad starts working again.

So I think it's either..

1. The trackpad (hardware) is on it's way out?
2. A driver problem?
3. A dirty trackpad? (I'm going to give it a good clean now).

I'm not sure it's anything to do with overheating, as the problem occurs usually about 5 minutes after switch on (from cold), and the NC10 is really quite cold.

Will try a few things and report back! Thanks again chaps.

Sent it back to Samsung mate. My speakers went on mine, rang Samsung who sent me out a pre paid UPS box. Sent if off and got it back fixed for free within a week. It would actually be quicker for your dad because the Repair Company is in the UK.

Kotek Besar · 29-07-2009 09:30AM

cpu-dude wrote: »

Sent it back to Samsung mate. My speakers went on mine, rang Samsung who sent me out a pre paid UPS box. Sent if off and got it back fixed for free within a week. It would actually be quicker for your dad because the Repair Company is in the UK.

Thanks.. might have to do this. Would we have to put XP back on it though? Does it void your warranty on the laptop by putting a different OS on it?

Greenman · 29-07-2009 11:29AM

Bump.

Sorry about the trackpad but just curious why you put Vista and why not leave XP on it??

Kotek Besar · 29-07-2009 11:33AM

Greenman wrote: »

Bump.

Sorry about the trackpad but just curious why you put Vista and why not leave XP on it??
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I suppose because my Dad's never used a computer before, and ultimately Windows 7 will be put on his laptop, so I thought introduce him to computers with Vista and then the transition to Windows 7 will be much easier (as opposed to XP to 7 which might be more confusing for him).

Incidentally, I also put 2gb ram in for him, back at xmas time.

Greenman · 29-07-2009 01:54PM

benifa wrote: »

I suppose because my Dad's never used a computer before, and ultimately Windows 7 will be put on his laptop, so I thought introduce him to computers with Vista and then the transition to Windows 7 will be much easier (as opposed to XP to 7 which might be more confusing for him).

Incidentally, I also put 2gb ram in for him, back at xmas time.

Thanks for that.

Have XP on my big Toshiba plus its on my NC 10 and love it.

The son has Vista and I hate it.

I put in the 2GIG memory not sure of the effect.

Finally you sound like a good son to your dad, hope my son turns out well.

Greetings from sunny Morocco.

Kotek Besar · 29-07-2009 02:08PM

Bless you - thanks Greenman!

Regards from very rainy Waterford!

Laxie · 29-07-2009 07:42PM

Hi all. We're looking to get the pink version for our daughter and I'm just curious...is there any difference in these apart from price?

http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfullat.asp?productcode=ECE1691330#spec

http://www.dabs.ie/products/samsung-nc10-pink-atom-n270-1gb-160gb-xp-home-10-2-w-5FDV.html?q=samsung%20nc10

Cheers!

Elara: Kin · 29-07-2009 07:46PM

Laxie wrote: »

Hi all. We're looking to get the pink version for our daughter and I'm just curious...is there any difference in these apart from price?

http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfullat.asp?productcode=ECE1691330#spec

http://www.dabs.ie/products/samsung-nc10-pink-atom-n270-1gb-160gb-xp-home-10-2-w-5FDV.html?q=samsung%20nc10

Cheers!

They are the same, our Pinks are just on special.

Laxie · 29-07-2009 07:48PM

Excellent stuff...cheers! Does it come with a power adapter or do we need to purchase that separately?

Elara: Kin · 29-07-2009 07:49PM

Laxie wrote: »

Excellent stuff...cheers! Does it come with a power adapter or do we need to purchase that separately?

It comes with the power adapter...

Laxie · 29-07-2009 07:50PM

Sold! lol Thanks for getting back to me so fast.

Elara: Kin · 29-07-2009 07:59PM

Laxie wrote: »

Sold! lol Thanks for getting back to me so fast.

No problem....

cpu-dude · 30-07-2009 09:28AM

benifa wrote: »

Thanks.. might have to do this. Would we have to put XP back on it though? Does it void your warranty on the laptop by putting a different OS on it?

Yeah I had to do that myself, and just as I was nicely comfortable with Windows 7 and my apps installed.

KStaford · 30-07-2009 02:18PM

Just read the entire thread (took me all morning)

and I am now left with a few questions.

Sleeves
Do they have a place for the Power Adapter?
Do they have any other compartments for cables, usb sticks / misc items ?

Mouse
There are two types (radio and bluetooth) - is this correct?
Is bluetooth harder on battery than radio? (might be preferable to have bt disabled as a power saving option as I do not use it for anything)

Memory
Upgrading to 2GB so I am left with a homeless 1GB module. Is there anywhere I can sell/dispose of this ? (seems such a waste to put in in a drawer), I dont care about the money, just dont want to see it go to such waste.

Many thanks

The_Conductor · 30-07-2009 02:25PM

1. Sleeves- the sleeve the NC10 comes with is pretty useless and is more an afterthought on the part of Samsung than anything else. You will need to buy a new sleeve- if you intend on lugging the NC10 around with you and want to keep it safe. The Samsung sleeve is a thin cotton cloth sleeve with no pockets. You can pick up a decent neopreme sleeve on ebay cheaply.

2. Mouse- there are actually 3 types of mouse- you forgot about a wired USB mouse. The NC10 has a very responsive trackpad- a mouse isn't really necessary at all. A wired USB mouse will only consume power when in use- if you do really want a mouse....... I wouldn't bother with a wireless mouse- but thats me.

3. Memory- pop up the spare 1Gb stick on www.adverts.ie - you might not get a lot for it, but it would find a good home.

Kotek Besar · 30-07-2009 02:34PM

benifa wrote: »

Thanks lads for the replies so far.

Just an update:

Plugging in a cheap USB mouse works fine. The cursor is unfrozen and works fine (with the mouse). At this time, the trackpad continues to be unresponsive. Give it 5 minutes (with or without the USB mouse plugged in), and the trackpad starts working again.

So I think it's either..

1. The trackpad (hardware) is on it's way out?
2. A driver problem?
3. A dirty trackpad? (I'm going to give it a good clean now).

I'm not sure it's anything to do with overheating, as the problem occurs usually about 5 minutes after switch on (from cold), and the NC10 is really quite cold.

Will try a few things and report back! Thanks again chaps.

Yesterday morning I uninstalled the trackpad from Device Manager (and elected to delete driver / software at the same time). I restarted the NC10 and let Windows pick up the "new hardware" and install it automatically - presumably it searched for and downloaded the driver from Windows Update.

Problem solved - Dad's NC10 has been right as rain ever since. Moral of the story - don't install the trackpad driver from the Samsung website, just let Windows pick it up and install it itself.

Samsung NC10

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