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Irish translation of my surname needed.

  • 19-07-2009 07:38PM
    #1
    ElSeano93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭


    my surname is dardis, what would the translation be. or if there isn't one, how could i spell it phonetically in irish? i'm thinking of changing my surname to it's irish translation. go raibh maith agat, Sean.


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  • #2
    asdasd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    de Ardis, prob.


  • #3
    ElSeano93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭ElSeano93


    some fella told me it could be D'Ardéis, O'Dáirdéis, some other one i can't remember. I really need as accurate a translation as possible, cheers :)


  • #4
    asdasd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    It is not O anything, as your surname is clearly Norman. It is from the Norman De Artois which means From Artois. So D'Ardéis may be correct as a transliteration into irish.


  • #5
    Múinteoir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Múinteoir


    An Sloinnteoir Gaeilge agus an tAinmneoir gives it as Dairdis. I'd suggest doing a bit of independent research yourself if you want some more evidence to back that particular version up.


  • #6
    ElSeano93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭ElSeano93


    so which one do people think would be better? Dairdis, or Dairdéis?


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  • #7
    asdasd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    Well if you want the more Irish sounding Route and you want a change: D'Ardéis or De Aridéis.


  • #8
    ElSeano93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭ElSeano93


    asdasd wrote: »
    Well if you want the more Irish sounding Route and you want a change: D'Ardéis or De Aridéis.

    cheers for your help mate. i'm gonna go for D'Ardéis, even if it's not the correct translation of dardis, it sounds brilliantly irish :D thanks to all of yis for your help :)


  • #9
    Múinteoir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Múinteoir


    ElSeano93 wrote: »
    so which one do people think would be better? Dairdis, or Dairdéis?

    I would suggest using a version for which you can find some historical legitimacy. Is there any for Dairdéis? Many Norman names (of which your's is one) had long histories of using a Gaelic version of their name back to the Middle Ages. If you're seriously contemplating changing your name to an Irish version, I'd strongly advise not doing it on a whim or tossing a coin over the way to spell it. If the Irish-language version is not clear, I'd advise doing some research (outside of the internet).


  • #10
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    yes - anytime i have seen an irish name of norman origin (of this particular type) it has been:

    de .....

    no apostraphe at all


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